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When she accepted her much-deserved Golden Globe, überhottie Charlize Theron thanked the director of Monster, and said, "There's only so much you can do, but if somebody doesn't give you a chance there is nothing you can do."

. . . if somebody doesn't give you a chance there is nothing you can do.

That sums up -- perfectly -- why it's so goddamned hard to be a working actor.

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Great site!@ 1`st comment!

Once that someone gives you that chance and prove you are that someone, recognition follows. Oscar speech ahead...

I was going to comment, but then I realized it was inflamatory. I'll go drink some cold water now.

Thanks.

-Mike

Uberhottie? You're a strange one, Mr. Wheaton.

Hey, I'll agree with the hottie part. She's a hottie, yes. And as far as being a working actor being difficult, well, sometimes they see the 'typecasting' thing a little too much. A lot of people see the amazing Wil as 'Let's see if I can save the universe by pulling the answer out of my 15-year-old sphincter' Wesley Crusher. It sucks, because you're not the roles you play.

Chin up, li'l camper. You kick ass where it counts -- in your wife's mind, in your stepkids' minds, and in the minds of the you gajillions of loyal fans.

Okay, I'll stop being all fanboy now. :)

Actually that sums up perfectly why it's so hard trying to get started in *any* profession.

I think it sums up pretty much any one's effort at rising to the occassion - in almost all occupations.

Education helps to a point, being willing to work hard helps to a point, and keeping one's motivation helps to a point.

But if management won't even let you try, then it is not just the applicant who loses. You never know who will be "the one" who will make all the difference.

I think that's the thing with everything arti-related. It's so difficult in a art field to get out there unless you get a chance.

I'm noticing that here, at my school, where the same students are cast over and over again for the shows. But then, the problem is that other theatre majors aren't being given the chance and therefore aren't going to fill their practicum requirements.

As much as I'd love to act, I'm much more of a writer. Still, that puts me in the same position. Really, all it takes is one person to see your talent and give you that chance.

*G* Thanks for sharing the thought.

I've been resisting the urge to do anything but surf this groovy site, but this just feels like the perfect time to officially go from lurker to addict I guess, so here I am posting my comment.. heh.

Her quote might sum it up, but I'm personally thankful that when you got that chance, you took it.

Otherwise, my young-adulthood may have been ruined, and I wouldn't now be visiting this site every sinle day since I've found it, just to see what you've been up to* -imagine an exclamation point or two, blaster shifer is on the fritz, hehe-

Here's to many more chances*

Charlize deserved that Golden Globe, and yes acting is hard work and cut throat at that!

That goes for just about any job you know how to do but aren't "qualified" to do. That's why I'm stuck working in a pizza place at 25 years old.

*pats your hand*

Some day, we'll all get our revenge.

....

*has to say it*
Until then, there's MTV

I don't know if thats exactly true, I mean it obviously is true but its not only about getting a chance... its about making the most of your chance. Everytime you have an audition or job interview or whatever that is a "chance." Everyone gets plenty of chances all the time, its just all about capitalizing on them.

What MD said. It goes for Producing as well. Sometimes I wake and look in the mirror and think to myself... I haven't been kicked enough. Lets go for another round.

I hear ya!

Wil,
Just remember that someone did give you a chance for Dancing Barefoot and JAG. Now go show the world what you can do...you've already shown all of us that are loyal WWDN fans.
=^)

Aint it true...aint it true...

Ain't it the truth Wil. I think the same goes for any artistic pursuit. All we can do is just keep plugging away. :)

Well just remember you aren't alone Mr. Wheaton. Its been hard for a lot of people to get work these days. As a matter of fact I've applied to so many jobs that I'm overly qualified for and they never call me to give me a chance. So I think that quote sums things up perfectly for a lot of people these days. Thanks for that...now I don't feel like I'm the only one anymore :)

I'm gonna get flamed for this, but PUH-LEEEZE!! "So goddamned hard to be a working actor...?" How is it that celebrities are so grossly out of touch with the overwhelming majority of their fellow humans, and simultaneously so incredibly self-centered about it? I really have a hard time summoning up any sympathy for a successful actor when I think of how "god damned hard it is to be a working" waitress, or assembly line worker or maid. I know people in their 50's making six bucks an hour and trying to support a wife and kids. Jeezus, get a sense of perspective!

matt daemon
ben afflicted

am I wrong, or do these guys deserve some credit for making their career happen?

I think it's tough to rise to the top in any profession. But if you have 'lower' expectations, is it reasonable to think that a great many *can* be working actors? Is it a matter of not being picky? Or proud?

How much did that "where's the beef" lady earn anyway?

OOOOOO...That's Deep!

been reading you for about a year now.

Just hoping you see yourself as a touch more than just a working actor, from what i read there is a little more going on than that.

I know it's juvenile, and I respect her as an actress and as a woman, etc., so why when I was watching her accept her "Golden Globe" could I only think about her Golden Globes

(*)(*)

... I really don't think I'll ever grow up.... sigh

Um, Darth, he's talking about being a working actor because that's what he knows best. He's not going to talk about being 50 years old and supporting seventeen kids because that's not his life. How hard is that to understand?

her...Golden...lol...Golden...LOL...Globes...
ROTFLMAO...oooo now THAT'S deep :)

I understand it perfectly well. Acting is what Wil knows. But it's still hard to swallow. If acting, is so hard, just think about all the shit jobs us non-celebrities have.why can't celebs show some understanding of average people now and then? Oprah asks for donations to charity while every faucet fixture in her house is gold plated. (Really.) Ben Affleck gives J-lo a 3 million dollar ring and then breaks the engagement. Christ.

I'm not saying wil has Oprah's money, but a little perspective would be nice. If acting is "so hard" can you imagine what working two jobs at minimum wage is like? With no hope of ever escaping that trap?

And spare me the conservative B.S. about the poor deserving their life's lot as a punishment for being stupid.

I know more people who would trade their jobs for one that required them to act in front of a camera all day then I know people actually acting. The huge majority of people are working more hours than Wil at a tiny fraction of the pay,and it would be refreshing for an actor to once get about the world.

same applies to you and your book, Wil.
yes, you self published.
But people gave you the chance at their book stores.
BECAUSE you're Wil Wheaton.

Let me put it to you this way, I self published a book too.
I can't get anyone to sell it.
I can't even get them to read it.
Because I'm a nobody.

I could be the next friggin Hemingway, but no one will give me the chance.

Things are tough all over.

Not sure if I'm mad at you, me, or the world. I'll stop talking now.

PS, I actually think Theron is average, leaning towards unattractive.
Go figure!

If no one gives you a chance, you make it happen for yourself...hence some of the truly awesome independent movies, independent publishers, and garage bands hawking their own CDs, creating a following.

It's rarely chance--it's freaking hard work and gut deep desire. While on the surface I agree with what Theron said and understand it, deep down I know you make your own success. I think you must, too, Wil, or else you would have that 3 book deal now. You ~made~ that happen--doesn't matter that you're already a celebrity, if your work sucked, you wouldn't have the deal. But you might not have even that if you hadn't laid your guts out there and done it yourself first.

Well, Darth, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but you've made some pretty big assumptions.

I am not rich, or anywhere close to it. I live paycheck to paycheck just like most Americans. I'm struggling to pay next month's bills, too.

I am not, by any stretch, a "celebrity." I'm a "used-to-be-a-celebrity." That's more of a liability than an asset in Hollywood, unless you're trying for a job on the surreal life.

But I am not the reason I quoted her.

I was moved by this statement that she made, because she's super famous and super wealthy, yet she still struggles to convince Hollywood that she's more than just an überhottie. I for one am glad that she did.

I suppose that what she said can be applied to any artistic person, as a prior commenter said.

Hey,Darth Moby..curious question...did you live in New Mexico? and work at a McDonald's once?
I've seen and heard your "Handle" before

Actor? Forget actin', boy, you're a heck of a writer (also hard work).

Besides, you're not washed up yet -- you're not on "The Surreal Life".

Keep up the good work. Your blog is on my daily "must read" list.

I most certainly have NOT made big assumptions. There is a massive difference between being a guy who "once was a celebrity" and one who never has been, never will be, and has no chance of ever making celebrity money, even if only for a decade (as in your case.) The fact that you don't see the difference is saddening. The fact that you really bought that phony self-deprecating bullshit from Charlize Theron is even more disappointing. (It's always interesting to watch how humble celebs get when accepting awards. If Theron had the face of a horse's rear end, she would have never even been given the opportunity to make that speech in the first place. As for her upcoming Oscar win, there are two ways to win an Oscar (pay attention, Wil): play a mentally challenged person, or be beautiful and put on thirty pounds. Whomever does both at the same time will be made Pope.)

I know from reading your otherwise great blog that you are not in the Theron range of money (as I indicated.) But you're a far cry away from the real hard-working people who CAN'T pay their rent, and CAN'T live in California, and CAN'T afford to go a week without a paycheck, never mind waiting for the next acting gig.

I don't mean to start a class war here, but c'mon. Actors talking about how "hard working" they are sets off my BS bells. Sure, it's hard work, but the pay is so off the charts compared to others who even work HARDER it's a stupid comment.

Sorry, I now return you to your ordinary positivity. I will go now....

Nah...trying to be a working actor is one of the most difficult things in the world...more so than most professions...there are so manyout of work actors...so many (myself included)...

Does this now mean that Renee Zellweger will get an Oscar next year after the sequel to Bridget Jones comes out? After all, she has gained about thirty pounds (again) for the role. I don't remember much about her speech on the Golden Globes, but I do recall that all those so-called "extra" pounds looked good on her. She was a curvy girl, in the style of Marilyn. If only someone would tell Hollywood women they could keep a few pounds and look great...Anyway, sorry to interrupt the class war going on here. I am both employed (in an office) and unemployed (as an actor - well, most of the time). I agree with Wil's assessment - it takes something for famous people to say that stuff and I don't think it's all fake when they do. (As for "never being famous and never will be"...well, with that defeatist attitude, who could possibly make it? )Many professions are honourable, but it doesn't follow that we should blame actors just because some of them make decent money at their art. Besides, most actors are the "working poor", doing all kinds of low paying jobs while they audition and try to find acting work.

Interesting comments. There are good points on each side. However, I will defend Mr. Wheaton on several issues. First, would he have gotten a book deal without the prior celebrity? Possibly. However, it does no good if he had not taken advantage of it. Write like crap, no sell books. Law of supply and demand. It is that simple. Should we fault those who were given the opportunity to become celebrities? No. Got the chance and took it. Good for you/them. I don't feel that Mr. Wheaton is in anyway whining about how tough it is. He is apparently using his God given talents (best personal website I have ever seen). He is maximizing potential. Good for him.

I do, however, agree that most of the whiney, rich actors/actresses need to get slapped with the iron clad fist of reality. Life sucks. I think that the disparity of incomes for actors, sports figures, television personalities, and politicians leans toward the obscene. I watch VH1 and see the spending habits of the still-teething bubble gum pop star (Britney, Christina, Justin,...) and I become enraged. Sure, they must have had hard work, but what does that mean? What is hard work to them? I have worked 16-18 hours a day for five days out of the week. On top of that I am on call 24/7. I was never off duty. I got paid rather well, 55,000, but that was very hard work. The responsibility that if I didn't do my job, the company failed and 250 people would be out of work was overwhelming. Is this the "hard work" that celebrities talk about? I really don't know and would like an answer.

Our society is based on free enterprise and Darwinian philosophy. My point is this: if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

I agree with Jeremy. It sums up pretty much any profession. I would assume that's a big part of the reason why I haven't been able to find a new job in two years.

Well, that and Shrub.

(And it's not that I've been unemployed, so much as not being able to live on my own or afford health insurance... oh yeah, thank you again Bush.)

I think that Charlize has really done well for herself!

In her speech, she mentioned that this was crazy.. she was a farmgirl from South Africa.

Well, I don't know if there are any other "Seth-Efricans" here but I can tell you that for her to make it from Benoni to Hollywood is one hell of an achievement and I hope she wins the oscar!

Wil, keep doing what you do!

I totally agree with you Wil. So many talented people out there that will never be seen/heard/read about. Yet you see so many crappy bands, movies, and books out there.

some interesting posts so far on this one...
Darth Moby's mostly, i suppose...

and i couldn't agree LESS with him..

i think the easiest thing in the world must be to be a critic...to stand in the aisles
and throw in a lofty opinion or two, rather than ACTUALLY doing the thing you're talking about..

i remember once in art class listening to my teacher go on and on about modern art, showing examples and so forth..i remember sniggering and laughing..right up until he called me on it...
i said, ahhhh that shit is lame...a child could do it...some paing daubs here and there, some splashing around..it's useless....

did i understand it?
no.
had i even made the atempt to figure out how difficult it could be to actually do?
no.

he taught me a valuable lesson that day, and that was, that it's easy to snear at something, but it takes years and years of hard work and slaving away as a nobody before you can do it yourself and be half way succesful at it..

think it's obscene how much money charline or wil can make doing acting?

try this....

try going to several auditions a week and being told you're not right..or not good enough...or to young or too old..
try doing that, day in, day out
try waking up and looking in the mirror and trying to drum up just an ounce of courage and self respect in order to go out, face the world and be rejected yet again..

now do that for a few years...

if you make it,

actors EARN their fucking money.
believe it.

and if you think 'oh, anyone can do it..it's just playing pretend blah blah blah'
then fine..
i encourage you to go out and become an actor...
find out for yourself.

Well then, in that case:

IT'S TIME TO ANNOUNCE THE NOMINEES FOR THE 2004 NERDIES: AWARDS GIVEN TO AWESOME GEEKY PEOPLE WHO KICK MORE ASS THAN THOSE WHO WIN LAME ASS, OVERRATED AWARDS!

This year's nominees are:

Wil Wheaton for "Getting A Sweet Book Deal With O'Riley"
Wil Wheaton for "Most Photoshopped Geek On Fark.com"
Wil Wheaton for "Geek Who Scored The Hottest Wife"
and finally,
William Shatner for "I'm The... Biggest... Asshole Geek On The Planet... Though... I Won't... Admit To Being A... Geek"

And the winner is:
WIL WHEATON!

To hell with those asshats in Hollywood. They don't know what they're missing...

Tyson: right on... totally agree with your comment.
Anyone who thinks it's easy to be an artist in any aspect is either lying to themself or is unwilling to see depth in the human experience.
I'm a writer and I acted in small Children's Theatre productions. You may think that you're perfect for a role, or that your novel is the greatest piece of literature since cavemen first started scribbling on walls, but unless that director or publisher takes that risk you will still remain the same person pounding the pavement to auditions and writing on napkins.

Amen! I had the exact same thought at the time.

I have to agree with quite a few people here, Wil..you don't have to worry about being 'a working actor'..your writing talents and yes, even your *gasp* acting talents prove you're more than that.

If you could have been swayed to play Jason in Grown/Apart, we could have made some beautiful music together.

You'll always be our first chance::sniffle:sniffle::, I mean choice.

Be well Wil Wheaton.

first of i am a big fan of yours mr wheaton
and secondly i feel that line is can be applied more to life then just acting
we need a chance given to us every now and then

Well, there's always jobs in porn.

I think you are a little hard on “Darth Moby”. I do not agree with everything he says, but I do understand where he is coming from. I think we should also remember the phrases “ the grass is always greener on the other side” and “don’t judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes”.
If things aren’t going the way we would wish it is easy to blame someone else, but it is also true that we all need help at some point in our lives.
Remember, that in a lot of cases, people only earn what others will allow them to earn.
Why do you buy a pair of “Levy’s” for $XX.XX when it only costs $X.XX to make?, where does all the profit go?.
If you had the chance to see Babe Ruth hit a home run would you go? And what would it be worth for you to see that? And how much of your “Ticket price” should go to Babe and how much to the organiser and stadium?.
How much would you pay to see “John Doe” sing at the London Palladium/Sydney Opera House?, you wouldn’t, so he doesn’t get booked.
So Babe Ruth ends up earning a fortune for swinging a piece of wood at a hunk of leather.
But is was “you” who gave it to him. So if you don’t want Babe Ruth to earn a fortune, don’t go.
Let me ask another question, how many of us think we get paid enough for whatever the work is that we do? And how many of us play the Lottery?.
Respect people for what ever the job is that they are doing however lowly you may feel that job is and remember without the dustmen (that’s garbage collector to most of you), our homes would all be infested with rats.

It cracked me up about how Darth associates anyone who lives in California as having money. If anything, anyone who lives in California has even less money. I make less in California than I did when I lived in Iowa and my rent is more than double, not to mention the price of food, electricity, gas, etc.

That said, I CAN see Darths point of view on celebrities (rich and famous or not or formerly) being a little out of touch with someone who guts hogs at a meat packing plant. THAT is hard work. The hardest work in acting seems to be getting a job in the first place. And avoiding the craft services table when you wear a spandex space suit.

Truly there are hard working actors out there. (How many movies has Michael Caine made?!) But I think you'd be hard pressed to compare the acting profession to working grave yard in a place where if you fall asleep you get killed instead of a knock on the trailer door.

BUT.. Darth... this is Wil's blog and of course he's going to speak of the things that relate to his life. And working physical labor is not one of those things. And he should be grateful for that. It's a reminder to use the gifts he has.

Good actor ? working actor.
Great actor ? celebrity actor.
"becoming" a Celebrity actors means winning some sort of industry lottery overseen by a masonic cabal that meets in the under-basement of Mortons.

hey dude, somebody in the biz must have respected you, because check this out.

dunno if you knew it, but the guy who played the cheif of police of malibu in "the big lebowski" also played a guest character by the name of "william wheaton" on the show "nash bridges" in the episode 'resurrection.' (number 15 under notable tv guest appearances).

just caught that as i was scrolling through imdb and thought it was pretty cool. i'm a dork, what can i say.

I see Wil's point. You don't get acting jobs on seniority, or even necessarily skill. There are all sorts of other silly things that go into it, and it comes down to someone being willing to open the door so you can show your stuff. It's like you're constantly going through job interviews all your life, but there are often many other considerations before they even consider your qualifications. It's a bit of a crap shoot.

Well.. although when people do give you oportunities it is nice and it certinaly will help those who can shine to do so... I also am a firm believer in making things happen yourself.

I know it isn't acting.. but..I am in a the type of band that without our own constant vigilance and determination, would go absolutly no where. If/When said band does goes anywhere, it won't be because "someone gave us a chance" but because we busted our asses to get there and knew when to take whatever opportunities come our way.

In the end, though she may be thankful for her own oportunity, it was she who took it ans it is her decisions that make or break her career.. We are all at the helm of our own destiny's. Set a coarse.. and engange!

First time posting here, so if I step on any toes, I apologize upfront!

The rather lively discussion had me thinking about the way different groups view different ways of living. I too am in that process of 'fighting for my living', and am only now just starting to show benefits from that work.

I think we can all agree that regardless of what job you find yourself doing, or how much you're getting paid for it, achieving that 'dream' that you have worked so hard for is a rather powerful moment. Regardless of what we may think of Theron, award ceremonies or the entertainment industry as a whole, what we saw there was that dream coming real for her.

It also makes you wonder where the character of Wesley could have gone given a bit more a chance. Having recently re-watched most of those episodes, things that I found irritating well over 10 years ago not only seem not so bad now, but seem to be the foundation for what could have made a real character, something we could have identified with as we all went after those 'dreams'.

Sorry for the ramble :)

It can be applied to anyone, Wil, not just artistic types.

I could be the best accountant on the planet, but if I don't meet the quote the firm is looking for, I'm not hired.

It's all about who hires you, giving you the chance.
It all depends on the prejudices of the hirer.

I've always thought typecasting sucks. I mean, someone sees you, and their first thought is, "It's that guy from 'Mr. Stitch'!"

In doing a little reading on "blogging," I came across a link to this site. Nicely done. As for C. Theron's comment, I would have this to say: Sometimes, when others don't seem to be giving us a chance, we have to give ourselves that chance--the opportunity, if you will, to grow in a different direction and see that we have remarkable gifts to share with others.

Darth Moby is a dick.

98% of an actor's life is rejection. I work as a tv host in the UK. I'm not famous. Some years I've had loads of work and made decent money, some years I've gone into debt. I get people writing me fan letters, still I don't always know when I'm going to work again.

This is what it's like:

People tell you that youíve got to be like this and say that; and sorry we donít have money for wardrobe youíve got to use your own clothes; and your outfit is shit; and we donít have money for a make-up person; and your make-up doesnít look good; and that necklace is crap you canít wear it; and donít have a conversation with this interviewee I want you to ask the questions Iíve got on my page in exactly the same way they are written; and dye your hair because it doesnít look good under the green lights we feel are necessary and more important than you; and you have no right to complain about anything because youíre replaceable; and have you ever thought of getting pictures done with your tits out cos itíll help your career; and get some new bras cos your tits could look better; and I prefer your co-host because Iím shagging her (this one usually isnít said to your face); and donít smile too much; and be friendlier; and donít laugh; and be a bit more Ďupí; and be sexier; and fuck you for making more money than me; and sorry we donít have that much money to pay you but you should be happy cos this is good for your cv; and I know it wasnít in your contract but can you write the programme too; and sorry, youíre the host, you arenít paid to think; and no you donít get holiday pay; and I donít care that you were rushed to hospital in an ambulance last night youíve *got* to interview this popstar today... and it happens over and over again, job after job, year after year, like you donít even have any feelings and sometimes you are surrounded by jibbering idiots who think you are the stupid one simply because you are a presenter and you just sit there smiling taking it all because you donít want to piss anyone offÖ

Sure it's not the same as working at McDonald's or whatever Darth Moby does, but I'm sure every single person here who has decided to take the difficult way out and follow their dreams of being an actor or an artist or a musician will gladly invite, Mr. Moby to get up off his fat ass and give our jobs a go.

Then and only then can you have an opinion.

Wil, you rule.

you make an excellent point on the difficulities of being an actor...though I know nothing of it, it sems to make sense. And yes, she is cute.

From what I understand about acting as a profession (which is admittedly next to nada--only what a friend of a friend, who IS a working actor in NYC says)..."working actors" aren't generally in it for the fame, are they? If it happens, that's great. But is that the real goal? Just to be famous? Just to be recognized? Just to win an Oscar or a Golden Globe or whatever? Isn't this one of those professions where there's a "calling" of some sort?

Re: Darth Moby's comments--like Elvis Costello said, I used to be disgusted, but now I'm just amused, specifically at people who think that you don't deserve sympathy unless you exist at their personal economic/social level. I'm hazarding a guess here that DM doesn't live in a country or region where starvation, contagious diseases, ethnic cleansing, genocide, and/or lack of good Thai restaurants is/are endemic. Well, maybe the last one. The bare fact that he has access to a computer with Internet access--even if it belongs to someone else, or is a library public access computer--puts him head and shoulders above most of the world's population. After all, if he has the time and energy to write several posts criticizing what someone else wrote on a blog, how bad can things be?

It's sad, really, because the feeling that I get from DM's posts is not so much anger at celebrities as it is self-pity. No one cares about poor DM because they're too caught up in the travails of Wil and Charlize, sitting on the deck of a giant yacht in the South Pacific, sipping bloodies and bemoaning the fact that they have to do their own flossing because it's so hard to find good help these days. Some of us actually find it comforting to know that the attainment of celebrityhood, past or present, doesn't shield us from the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, because it frees us from the unrealistic expectation that reaching some ephemeral level of fame or fortune makes all of our troubles vanish like the morning dew, and we can get on with our lives without wasting time on being bitter.

Still, though, I would have liked to have sat on a starship bridge, even once. But I'll live, no worries.

I think it's so strange how willing people are to attack an actor for transforming themselves for a role. The fact that Charlize Theron got her start as the "beautiful girl" - which in itself generated criticism of the "all she is is eye candy" ilk - and made herself into something almost unrecognizable in order to properly play Aileen Wuornos should be entirely incidental to how well she played the part. Every review I've read has harped on the physical aspects of the role and has said precious little about whether Theron is emotionally convincing, and I think that's kind of sad. Something similar happened when Nicole Kidman wore a prosthetic nose to play Virginia Woolf. It's like people want to point at something relatively trivial as if to say "That actor couldn't have done it without all the makeup" - which is ridiculous.

And I also don't understand the people who think that being an actor (or a writer, or an artist, or anything that doesn't involve heavy lifting in the traditional sense) is "easy." I'm a writer, and yeah, I'm not going to throw out my back if I stay up all night working on a story - but that doesn't mean it isn't work. It may use a different set of muscles, but it's still work.

I like the quote, though. I think it's true of anything. On a personal level, too - it's important to walk into things eyes-open, without preconceptions about what you can and can't do.

THEY CALL ME PASTABAGEL

You should create your own opportunity. How many actors got started in films that they wrote? (Rocky, Good Will Hunting, etc).

That said there needs to be a better outlet for independent filmmakers to make money. The hollywood production machine is almost a closed shop designed to concentrate all of the business and the money in a few production companies.

THEY CALL ME PASTABAGEL

She was very excited that she won. Just because she is from a farm in South Africa doesn't mean she can't grow up to win a golden globe.

First, I just want to mention I like the title you gave this particular piece - good one from "Silence". Next, I saw Ms. Theron on Bravo's "Inside the Actors Studio", and yes, she is not just an "uberhottie" as you put it, but she is by far a woman of substance. I was amazed to learn of her life as a young girl and the fact that her father was murdered in front of her when she was only 15 I believe. (I'm not certain because she wouldn't say, but it sounded as though her own mother killed him while defending Charlize from his attack) She is outstanding and truly talented...deserving of every bit of admiration that she receives. It isn't all about the looks.

I don't agree with that. I have heard it's very difficult in Hollywood to get places. You have to sell your soul or something, I think. If no one is giving you the break into the biz, go out and do something not affiliated with Hollywood. Become an outsider, an independent. Hollywood eats that shit up because they think it's novel. I guess my point is, don't wait for someone else to give you the chance. Go out and create something.

Yeah, you get acting jobs by looking good. Keneau can't act his way out of a traffic ticket and neither can Ben Affleck, but they look good, so they work. Talent has little to do with resume.

Wil got work because he had the genes that made him a cute kid and because he could do the work. If he could do the work but wasn't a cute kid, he probably wouldn't have gotten the jobs. (Of course Jerry O'Connel wasn't a cute little kid, but turned into a male Łber hottie. Go figure. Can't act. See Kangaroo Jack. But he's a big star because he's a tall hunk.

I agree with you Wil, it is hard to be a working actor in Hollywood. Only a very small percentage actually can make a living off of acting. Most struggle all their lives making ends meet. I know, because I have some actor/actress friends who work their hardest at selling themselves, but still find it hard to get regular work.

I agree that we are all responsible for creating our own chances, but still only to an extent. everything we do is still at someone elses mercy - you can go out and write, film, produce your own film, it might even be good, but SOMEONE still has to show it in the theatre. even if it's good, it isn't always the case that people will pick it up. and this is the case in all industries and walks of life. fact is, we live our lives at the mercy of others, on some level. (and Wil, you did go out and create your own chance - you created this site, started writing your book, found your own way to sell it, and only recently got a book deal, after the book had already become successful on its own. way to go, Wil!!)

I also totally resent the idea that all working actors (or musicians/artists/writers...) are whiney sucks who make too much money. what the hell kind of assumption is that?! as someone already mentioned, most people do this because they couldn't live with themselves if they didn't (it's called a soul) - as a performer myself, I know what it feels like. (and no, I don't get paid for what I do, most of the time I have to pay my expenses out of pocket).
We need people to do this though. we have always had entertainers. they are a part of society, and we'd be one hell of a miserable society without them. so kudos to ALL hardworking entertainers out there, rich and poor.

here's to all those who have the opportunity to give others a chance. realize that we may all be in that position at some point.

Hey, Wil, I've been watching re-runs of ST:TNG on Spike TV (they play about 500 episodes a day or somethin') and I have to say -- bro, you SUCK. No offense. Christ, why did you leave the show in the first place? Oh my God! I swear, it's amazing you ever got the job in the first place. When you were acting opposite guys like Stewart, did you ever think to yourself, "Oh man, I suck! I don't deserve to be getting paid to do this!" LOL. Truly, man, I hope you've given up this whole actor thing. You just ain't got the talent for it, bro. No offense.

Ok, just for the record... yes there is some Seth Effrikins out there who do read this great, amazing, funny, hilarious, "wow that is something I wish I had with my family" blog.

Yes, Charlize is a good actress in my opinion - admittedly I didn't like her acting much when she started out in the biz. Hell, there are people over here who STILL think she's a terrible actress, but I will say this... she made it from a suburb of Johannesburg to Hollywood - not many others can say that... Except of course Alice Krige, the ONLY Borg Queen. Yes, she is also South African, who quietly made her name where it counted.

But, again, I have to say that Charlize made things happen for herself, she went out there to get what she wanted, and she got to the top. *insert applause for "Łberhottie" Charlize*

Oh, and yes, her mom shot her dad after he was shooting at them in a drunken state or something to that effect, two weeks before she won the modelling contract that launched her career as a model with the "Face of the Year" or somesuch or another competition. It was self defence... and not quite something you discuss over the table at a function.

PS: We'll see what happens at the Oscars.

Charlize did put in an amazing performance in "Monster." The people dissing her because she's a beautiful woman taking an ugly role obviously haven't seen the movie. The quality of the acting would have shown through whether or not she had added the weight and makeup.

Would love to see you in a great role again, W. It's long overdue.

You know, it's tough all over. I have sympathy for the difficulties of being a 'working actor'. I also have sympathies for those who have trouble being a working anything. Or working hard and being under compensated because your circumstance has put you on the bottom of the food chain. Or living in a place where there isn't even enough food.

I personally have a real problem with the disparity of financial compensation that exists in some countries/professions. The rich are rich because they take from the poor. The moment you are paid for hiring someone else to move a box you have taken money from them. It sucks. It wouldn't be so hard for working actors to make a living if the uber stars weren't paid so much. Is Patrick Stewart so much better than Joe Neverhardofhim ? His wages aren't the measure of his talent.

Money is intoxicating. It's hard to refuse it if you're offered it. But even in your own country, children are hungry. Does anyone deserve to earn more than a million bucks a year when others will die of hunger?

Sorry if my comments are not received well. My only intention is to encourage people to be sympathic to those around you are truly being cheat in this life.

For some, it's hard to be a working actor. For others, it's hard to find food for their children.

why can't celebs show some understanding of average people now and then?

How the hell does her comment not apply to average people?

And spare me the conservative B.S. about the poor deserving their life's lot as a punishment for being stupid.

Where the hell do you get off? I'm a feminist pro-choice DYKE, you stupid little nitwit. You want to make assumptions, you'd damned well better make sure they're justified first.

Wil, in Stand By Me you were way better than most Oscar winning performances.

Don't worry pal, you'll get more chances to show people how talented you are.

1. Charlize Theron has one of the most wonderful smiles in film. It doesn't hurt that she's more than a decent actress either.

2. . . . if somebody doesn't give you a chance there is nothing you can do.

That sums up -- perfectly -- why it's so goddamned hard to be a working actor.

I'll have to agree with an earlier comment in that it sums it up for just about any professional enviroment.

Don't sweat it though, I like you much better now than I did when I was a stupid teenager with a huge crush. ;)

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