to raise, perchance to fold . . .
What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason! how infinite in faculty! in form, in moving, how express and admirable! in action how like an angel! in apprehension how like a god! the beauty of the world! the paragon of animals! And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? man delights not me; no, nor woman neither, though, by your smiling, you seem to say so. &mdash Hamlet, II.iiDr. Pauly and I sat beneath a cloud of smoke that had drifted from the craps table, over the velvet rope, and into the "smoke free" poker area. We drank scotch and talked about cool poker nicknames.
"I don't have one," I said, "really." I folded a hand I call "Michael Jackson," which is any Queen with a little kicker.
"They should call you 'Hamlet,'" Pauly said. He flashed me The Hammer and raised.
"Why?" I said.
"Because your kings always get killed."
It was folded around to him, and he folded face up.
"HAMMER!" He shouted. The locals were not amused.
We laughed and laughed, clinked our glasses, and laughed some more. Life was good, we were young, in Vegas, and kicking the shit out of the locals in the 4-8 Hold 'Em game at the Plaza . . .
I just had my unbeaten streak of PokerStars SNGs snapped . . . when I had kings.
It went like this: Kings in middle position, with two limpers. So I raised it up to 5x the BB, and four players stayed to see the flop. I wasn't very happy about playing my kings in a multi-way pot, until the flop came Q-6-2 rainbow. I figured one of these guys paired his queen, but figured I would have been re-raised pre-flop if any of them held QQ, so I was pretty sure I was in the lead.
An early position player made a very small bet, it was folded to me, and I popped him back about 3x. It was folded to the BB, who immediately went all-in. I figured that he didn't have a set, and put him on AQ, or QJ. (It was very unlikely that he had KQ since I already had the other two kings, but even if he did, I was still ahead.) He had me covered, so I called for the rest of my chips . . . and I was moderately happy when he turned up QJ. "Hooray for my great read," I thought. "Now here comes the Jack."
Sure enough, he caught a jack on the turn.
Gordinio: shows [Qd Js] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)I had a great run there for a little while, including a few times when I was way behind on the flop, and made runner-runner to suck out when I really should have lost. Meh. That's poker.
Wil Wheaton: shows [Kh Ks] (a pair of Kings)
Wil Wheaton said, "doh"
Gordinio collected 2700 from pot
Wil Wheaton said, "nh"
So the bad news is that I had to put a little -22 in my log book . . . but I think the nickname is official now, and Hamlet is just about the coolest nickname I think a guy could ask for (since, you know, Jesus is taken, and all.)
Comments
V. cool. Wish I understoond poker. Totally beyond me.
Pook
Posted by: Pookie | August 23, 2005 05:13 PM
Hey Wil,
I caught that last hand while I was playing in another SNG. It was a tough break.
That's poker for you!!
Chris
Posted by: Chris | August 23, 2005 05:20 PM
Hamlet is a great nickname for you! Got that whole tehater tihng happening, too.
Wasn't there a poker game in Henry VIII? I don't remember, I'll have to revisit the bard...
Posted by: AJ | August 23, 2005 05:30 PM
Ouch - that had to have hurt. But hey - Hamlet is an awesome poker name! Right up there with Phil "The Unibomber" Laak! :)
Posted by: arianna_pendragon | August 23, 2005 05:36 PM
Isn't today your site's 4th birthday? HAppy birthday if it is.. and if not, well happy early birthday (or belated).
Posted by: Jeannette311 | August 23, 2005 05:40 PM
Oh look... another poker post. They have support groups for things like this you know.
Posted by: Nutmegger | August 23, 2005 05:51 PM
Jeanette311: Holy shit, you're right! It is! I guess I need to bake WWdN a cake or something. :)
Nutmegger: Sorry to direct this to you, but your comment is the one that broke the camel's back. I'm getting really tired of people complaining to me about poker posts. I like poker. I like writing. I like putting those things together. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to read it. I can't imagine walking into someone else's party and bitching them out because they didn't have enough Guinness. Give me a break, okay?
Posted by: Wil | August 23, 2005 06:12 PM
This is a poker post so I figured it would be ok to post this here...
First I'll comment though. Luck sucks then you die :P Seriously though, that sucks. FH seems to be my cross to bear...I folded 4 of them in one game alone because I'm a chicken shit and people kept raising before the flop...
On to my...thingie...
I figured that you would be able to appreciate this being a poker guy...I just started playing not too long ago and registered for Pokerstars a bit ago. Until tonight I had never played a tourney but with your mention of a possible WWdN tourney, I thought I would give it a go...
My first tourney and I placed 5th :D I know it's no stellar accomplishment or anything, and it was only out of 25 and it was play money but I'm pretty darn pleased with myself.
And you're absolutely right about people bitching about what you post about...*checks http* yup, says wilwheaton.net up there...post away!
*does happy 5 place finish dance* (which oddly enough resembles the happy snoopy dance)
Posted by: psycoma | August 23, 2005 06:29 PM
oh yah, and happy birthday, bloggy-journally-book material-place *raises glass filled with my 648.00 fake 5th place finish money*
here's to many more! :D
Posted by: psycoma | August 23, 2005 06:31 PM
if you don't go to this site as soon as you can then you will cry all night.
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=diamondsyouate
it is the best thing in the world. Really...
--shauna
Posted by: Nikki and Shauna | August 23, 2005 06:40 PM
Wil 'Hamlet' Wheaton...
Yeah, that works. Though, so long as you lose not the name of action, I would beg you to continue to unpack your heart with words, whorish compariosons aside.
;)
Posted by: naiah christine earhart | August 23, 2005 06:43 PM
Happy Birthday to the site. Hip! Hip! and all that.
Poker. Don't understand it but the game absolutely fascinates me. A total stranger to the game could walk in and take every dime you have and a super ultra cool pro could go home broke. All this could be due to nothing but pure luck of the draw.
Poker is exciting to me because even though the best have a pretty good hand over everyone else, they don't ALWAYS win.
Am I starting to get the jist of it? Am...am I in the club now?
Posted by: VeronicaRobinson | August 23, 2005 06:58 PM
I feel you on that J. I have a very passionate love/hate thing going with the River, as do we all. And Dr. Pauly's wit hits one out of the park... "Hamlet" is cool and thanks to him really has a spark of meaning to back it up. Keep playing, and keep writing.
Posted by: ez_bake | August 23, 2005 07:05 PM
Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear WWdN, Happy Birthday to you!!!!
Posted by: sonjaag | August 23, 2005 07:20 PM
Wil,
Well, what can I say without looking like a total dipshit?
It was meant to be a joke, sorry it didn't come across that way. And youre right, when it comes right down to it... it doesn't matter what anyone thinks.
Take it easy.
Oh, and Happy Birthday.
Posted by: Nutmegger | August 23, 2005 08:22 PM
Wil,
Not sure if I agree with the Hamlet nickame. Hamlet was an angry person that was out for revenge and didn't care if he hurt people that loved him (Ophelia). Although in the end he dies for the good of Denmark, he was basically a selfish, vindictive person who was set on revenge.
Hamlet = Wil?
I don't really find the correlation, but whatever floats your boat, right?
BTW- Up to January 2003 in the archives..... wheee
Rachel
Posted by: Rachel | August 23, 2005 08:47 PM
Sorry about the luck, and that really is a great nick name =D
Happy Birthday to the site!! Thanks for all the effort you put in.
I love poker but no one here does *sigh*
Have a great day!!
That is all.
Posted by: Kelsimarie | August 23, 2005 08:57 PM
The greatest use of Shakespeare since the castaways on Gilligan's Island did the Hamlet musical.
Posted by: fred | August 23, 2005 09:03 PM
There's something rotten in Denmark...
I think in a roundabout way, Hamlet fits. No, not if you think of the original play of course, but show of hands, who here is remembering a certain TNG episode where Patrick Stewart riffs some Hamlet at Q?
Come on! One of the finer moments on tv! I think Wil's cool enough to compare to that. :-)
Posted by: Aria | August 23, 2005 09:26 PM
Bad beat story!
Lee Jones charges $2 to hear one of those...
Posted by: Joe_13 | August 23, 2005 10:23 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY WWdN!!! I know the time says I posted at 12:04 so this would be late...BUT my home is in Cali and time there is an hour behind Colorado and so therefore it is still 11pm and I am not late :) not to mention that WWdn Started in good old Cali anyway. hehe. keep up the great site.
oh and by the way great nickname, Wil "Hamlet" Wheaton.
-Cara
Posted by: Cara | August 23, 2005 11:07 PM
Hamlet seems to fit very well.
And as for folks complaining about poker posts -- tell them to forgeddaboudit!
I don't understand poker well enough to understand all the lingo and jargon you use, but it's like being a geek -- if you hang around geeks long enough, you'll pick up the terms and know what's what.
So keep on posting your poker stories!
Posted by: fgw_three | August 24, 2005 05:27 AM
Dubbed by a fellow poker-blogger, and in fine fashion, too. Congrats, Wil! It suits you. :)
Posted by: sparky1234 | August 24, 2005 05:38 AM
Hamlet was bonkers - stark raving mad pal! Mentally unhinged, one sandwich short of a picnic etc etc.
You REALLY want that moniker?
Posted by: Gabby | August 24, 2005 07:24 AM
You mention -22 in a log book. If you haven't used PokerTracker yet, I highly recommend it for tracking results. If for no other reason (in my case), it'll provide the documentation for taxes :).
Posted by: Chris Kessel | August 24, 2005 08:12 AM
Hamlet, great poker nick!
Posted by: BLUE | August 24, 2005 08:51 AM
{{{Wil}}}
is there some link that could explain poker for the ones of us that are completely lost?? You make sound really interesting & fun.
Hamlet is good unless someone could come up with a "w" name so then you could go by WWW - I just thought that would be funny.
Posted by: Reddy | August 24, 2005 09:01 AM
I enjoy thoroughly your poker-related posts.....EXCEPT when reading them forces me into reliving the same fate only mere seconds afterwards!!!
So, in order to compensate, you must write about winning a major score in a MTT then emailing me that the post is complete so I can read it quickly and enter my own MTT. OK? OK.
Posted by: BadBlood | August 24, 2005 09:25 AM
How about Wil "Wile E. Coyote" Wheaton?
Posted by: anj | August 24, 2005 09:27 AM
I love having cowboys in my pocket!
er... that didn't sound right...
The odds after the flop were about 4 to 1 in your favor. I hate going all-in with those situations (although that doesn't stop me from calling in the same situation). Those are good odds, but they will break a winning streak 20% of the time. It's especially dangerous in longer tournaments. Do it once and you have a 20% chance of being knocked out. Do it twice and you're up to 36%. Do it regularly, say 10 times in 200 hands, and you have a 89% chance of being knocked out of the tournament with KK (or similar) against a lower pair. Now, change that 2 on the flop to a K and you get 30 to 1 in your favor. Going all-in with that 10 times and you only have a 28% chance of being eliminated. Close to the same odds as one hand with the overpair.
This all assumes that you always have the smaller stack -- which isn't really a fair assumption. Removing that assumption makes that analysis much more complex -- complex enough that I don't quite know what to do with it -- which is what makes this game so darn interesting.
Posted by: Alan | August 24, 2005 09:30 AM
Reddy: The basics of poker can be learned at Wikipedia. The basics of hold-em at over 10,000 sites on the net (just google "basics of hold-em play"). After that there are thousands of sites that can offer suggestions on the "subtleties" of play. After that, dozens of sites (for PC users, PokerRoom for MAC users) where you can practice for free. Let Wil spend his time on better material.
To raise, or not to raise: that is the question:
Whether 'tis better in the pot odds to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous re-raises,
Or to take chips against a sea of chasers,
And by making it expensive end them?
...
And it must follow,
As the call the raise,
Thou cannot then be
Expecting runner runner spade.
Some people wince when they see a poker post from Wil -- I just delight. Can't wait to see him win a WPT event some day and have some serious free time to cause trouble.
Charlie L
Portland, OR
CLL2001@gmail.com
P.S. How about a political post next, Wil, just to really get people crazy? Maybe something on Cindy or the big September 24-26 thing in D.C.?
Posted by: CyberChas | August 24, 2005 09:40 AM
Hamlet's great, but what about "BobCostas" cause you're no sport.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=3158493&page=&view=&sb=5&o=
Posted by: Deckersyn | August 24, 2005 10:18 AM
In honor of your new nickname, I present the nickel-poker game Hamlet, invented at Phil Foglio's house, and now published in the book Dealer's Choice.
It's usually played as 7-card stud, with the following rules:
Jacks are low.
Queens are wild.
Kings are dead.
It's one of my favorites. ; )
Posted by: robespierrette | August 24, 2005 10:24 AM
Always nice to see a Hamlet quote in any context, really. (It's my fave.....) ;-)
Posted by: Veggie_gurl | August 24, 2005 10:24 AM
Hamlet may have been crazy but he was still a Prince.
Posted by: Debbie | August 24, 2005 11:25 AM
I lost 5 hands in a row last night, it is some kind of record on pokerstars.com. Check'm
#1. I have a flush king high. Got beat with the Ace high.
#2. I had a straight,6 to 10, they had it 7 to j.
#3. I had a full house Jacks and 6', they had a full house kings and 6's(pocket kings). I have pocket Jacks.
#4. Three Q's with pocket queens, bet by 3 aces they had pocket rockets.
#5. Flush with ace high, (10c, Qc) in my hand. Ac, 3c, 5c on the board. He had 2c, and 4c. Sick sick sick.
totally busted me out for the night.
HSF.
Posted by: HanShotFirst | August 24, 2005 11:31 AM
It is a cool nickname, but do you really want a nickname that was given to remind you that you lose?
Your kings always get killed?
Posted by: buntz | August 24, 2005 11:43 AM
If i had to choose a Shakespearian poker nickname, id totally be the Fishmonger.
What a fantastic word.
Posted by: TheWillow | August 24, 2005 11:58 AM
Hey Wil,
Frankly, keep up the poker stories...can't wait to hear all the rest of the WSOP stuff. And just to let you know, I recently signed up for PokerStars.com and started playing with fake money just because you mentioned it on your site. I felt that, being at least fairly in the know about reliability, if you are using PokerStars.com then it can't be all bad. Someday soon, when the wife lets the purse strings go a little, I will put some money in with the cashier and really start playing...
Posted by: Crymson | August 24, 2005 01:12 PM
"Hamlet"...I like it. Especially since, when I read that quote you used as the epigraph for this post, I could hear it being read in Patrick Stewart's voice. ("Hide and Q," season 1, wasn't it?)
Now, when you're the victim of a bad beat, you need to make the comment, "Alas! poor Yorick..." :-)
And keep up the poker posts. At some point, you'll have enough material for your own poker book (suggested title: Wil Wheaton Has The Nuts), which will probably sell well. Meanwhile, your posts encourage me to keep working on my own game, even though I don't play anywhere more meaningful than Xbox Live.
Posted by: Erbo | August 24, 2005 01:24 PM
Hamlet? Makes sense. I wish I understood more of the terminology about Poker, as you talk about it. I have started following it more since you have been discussing it, including playing some poker using the PokerStars.net client.
I decided to start Googling some of the phrases you use and I had a great 'enlightenment' moment when I discovered that SNG meant "Sit and Go". For some odd reason, I thought you had been involved in some special "Startrek Next Generation" games or something .... I'm a geek, so sue me!
If you know of a good web site for us Poker-newbies to review to following the jargon (hammer, two limpers, Q-6-2 rainbow), please share it in a future posting.
BTW: I like the "Michael Jackson" ... very original and humorous.
Posted by: osumailguy | August 24, 2005 01:41 PM
Don`t get cocky,Wil.He should have called you Luke!....
Posted by: Daryl | August 24, 2005 01:54 PM
Hamlet, huh? Almost sounds pretentious. Not that I've ever had a nickname given to me other than "Fuzzy". What about Wil "The Geek" Wheaton?
Love the poker blogs, keep writing them.
Posted by: Squirrelgnome | August 24, 2005 02:07 PM
Hey CyberChas
Ok I went over to Wikipedia - the problem with that site is I ended up spending 3 hours going from link to link (Note to Wil - your pic there is really great - I love the background & your hair all spike up)
needless to say - I"m still not sure but I think that the guy just barely beat him but I"m learning - & Hamlet is sounding like a better nickname (how I got to that I"m not sure but it had a really neat pic)
Posted by: Reddy | August 24, 2005 03:37 PM
Now, to be fair about all this "site birthday" stuff.... Which site are we talking about? The Burrito? WWDN 1.0? 1.1? WWDN+Soapbox??? I have trouble keeping the dates straight (read, "I don't really pay attention to them at all, but just enjoy reading the site and occasionally hanging out.")
Congrats on the poker run (of sorts), Wil, and good luck on the next--same goes on the long run of being cool with the kids, and the inevitable turning point where they realize Mom and (step)Dad actually have some clue what they're talking about (OMFG!)
"Dr." JSc
Posted by: JSc | August 24, 2005 04:32 PM
"What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason! how infinite in faculty! in form, in moving, how express and admirable! in action how like an angel! in apprehension how like a god!"
Why do I think of Picard when I read these lines?
Hehehehe.... Excellent post Hamlet!
SjN
Posted by: iamsjn | August 24, 2005 04:36 PM
Nice, vey nice Hamlet....
Posted by: Pauly | August 24, 2005 04:54 PM
/tries to decipher the poker speak
Is there a handy poker>english dictionary somehwere :P or can you compile one for the acronym/poker impaired /blush
As nicks come "Hamlet" isn't bad :)
Posted by: Mynna | August 24, 2005 05:53 PM
Although I really enjoy reading your blog, I liked it better before you became obbsessed with poker.
Posted by: Jonpaul | August 24, 2005 07:17 PM
congrats on the nickname Wil! and happy birthday site! *throws confetti and party hats left over from The Sisterhood's viewing of The Rocky Horror Picture Show earlier tonight* now the only thing you have to worry about is if someone comes at you with a fencing sword...that shouldn't be a problem, though...don't think those are allowed in casinos...
also, anyone who knows can answer this: do you have to pay to sign up with PokerStars?
Posted by: shewhobeatsass | August 24, 2005 10:35 PM
shewhobeatsass:
No, you don't have to pay anything to sign up with PokerStars. Keep in mind that PokerStars.com is the site that allows you to bet real money, and PokerStars.net is a play money only site. However, either site will allow free play.
Posted by: Lytspeed | August 24, 2005 10:49 PM
Ok folks:
Wil puts this stuff up 'cause he thinks it's cool. We read it because we think it's (and he's) cool. If you don't like the poker stories, don't read them, or just don't read the site any more. There's no reason whatsoever to try to tell him what to write; I'm sure there are lots of blogs out there that don't ever talk about poker if you'd rather read them instead.
Poker with friends/co-workers went pretty well for me when I played a couple of weeks ago. Early on, I was one of the two underdogs at the table; we had about the same amount of chips. I started with AKoff. I bet hard, only one person called me. Flop came AAx. My opponent went all-in, and I called. He had A8. I won it on the King kicker.
After that boost, I did pretty well. The hand that fatally wounded my stack was one with the hostess; I had a good hand, but she got a straight on the river. Ah well.
[Sorry if the poker lingo is off; I'm slowly starting to pick it up.]
I think an organized WWDN game on one of the on-line sites would be fun.
Posted by: Craig Steffen | August 25, 2005 08:05 AM
'Hamlet' is a famous brand of cigars in the UK, certainly a Wil thing.
Other suggestions would be 'The Traveller' or maybe 'The Gunslinger' in recognition of, well, you can all guess what.
First post, archives all read, work suffering!
Posted by: Kelmikey | August 25, 2005 08:57 AM
I love the poker posts! I just learned to play a few months ago , and it's so fun ..Hamlet ...good nickname
Posted by: Jess | August 25, 2005 09:21 AM
Reddy -- I owe you an apology. I sent you to Wiki because it's SUCH a great site, but you are right, that it's all about hypertext and you can get lost in there like a reader gets lost in a good bookstore or a histor lover gets lost in the Smithsonians.
Here's a better site for picking up hold em:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/start_basics.html
Take care,
Charlie L
Portland, OR
CLL2001@gmail.com
Posted by: CyberChas | August 25, 2005 10:18 AM
I can't imagine walking into someone else's party and bitching them out because they didn't have enough Guinness. Give me a break, okay?
Poker and Guiness ... sounds like a winning combination
Posted by: terrymr | August 25, 2005 10:44 AM
I agree with Craig, and it has nothing to do with wanting to kiss ass or whatever just because Wil is a celebrity. All the fq famous dude /fq bullshit aside, he's just a guy with a blog and as 'Just A Guy With A Blog'(TM) he can write about whatever he damn well pleases. I realize that everyone has a right to their opinion but when the opinion does nothing but a)hurt someone's feelings or b) makes you look like a prick then chances are it is one you should keep to yourself.
On a lighter note, I played another tourney last night and came in...are you ready for it?...SECOND!! that's right, I'm number 2!
Oh, ok well that didn't sound good...
But I was though! 4th tournament and I placed 2nd out of 45. I am so into playing a WWdN tournament if one ever materializes! :D
Posted by: psycoma | August 25, 2005 11:30 AM
Oh look... another poker post. They have support groups for things like this you know.
Posted by: Nutmegger at August 23, 2005 05:51 PM
Nutmegger: Sorry to direct this to you, but your comment is the one that broke the camel's back. I'm getting really tired of people complaining to me about poker posts. I like poker. I like writing. I like putting those things together. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to read it. I can't imagine walking into someone else's party and bitching them out because they didn't have enough Guinness. Give me a break, okay?
Posted by: Wil at August 23, 2005 06:12 PM
I laughed when i read this Wil - I was going to type the same thing.
It's just that, well, you wouldn't want all of us to have to come over and do a poker intervetion now would ya? I KEED!
Posted by: Beekerstreet | August 25, 2005 11:49 AM
So Hamlet,
I'm wondering if/when you're going to go on Celebrity Poker Showdown. Or maybe you're not that into being on TV again... who knows? =) I'm watching the lamest episode of Celebrity Poker right now, featuring Omarosa and four people I've never seen in my life. A minute ago, Omarosa won with a flush, and she didn't realize she had won (over trip 8s) until the announcer told her she had won. I think they need someone with your expertise and healthy love of the game to perk it up a bit. Just a thought. Keep having fun with the game!
Posted by: hermes501 | August 25, 2005 11:49 AM
hermes501: A couple of years ago, TPTB from CPS told me that I "wasn't a big enough celebrity" to play on their show . . . based on the players they've had since then, I don't think I'll ever get to play with them. :(
HOWEVER: my friends at WPT told me that if they ever do more Hollwood Homegames, they'll give me a chance to play, so I can redeem myself after my donkey-tastic episode last season.
Posted by: Wil | August 25, 2005 11:56 AM
Little on the pompous side are they not?
Kick'm in the (_|_)!
HSF
Posted by: HanShotFirst | August 25, 2005 12:10 PM
Hey CyberChas
thanks that helped - I think I'll have play it to get it down
now just remembering what all the terms mean when I see them - hey, I bookedmark that site so I can look up now.
Anyone setting up a learners game??
Posted by: Reddy | August 25, 2005 12:17 PM
I'm so frightened of real poker and you speaking in tounges doesn't help Wil.
I did win $200 on a video poker machine the other day though
Posted by: Jabbertrack | August 25, 2005 01:29 PM
I really think that you need to take your luck over to Noble Poker this week. All month they've had a promo giving a million dollars to the first person who can win 7 SNG's in a row. Very fishy over there, and they are giving away a 100% bonus. But I'm sure Pauly's already pressed this upon you.
Posted by: Nick G | August 25, 2005 03:34 PM
Anyone who doesn't know how to play poker, and who owns a game console (PS2, Xbox, GBA), pick up a copy of World Championship Poker. It's inexpensive, and will give you a useful introduction to the game, though its AI is doubtful at best. The Xbox version lets you play against other people on Xbox Live. I think the PS2 version lets you play online also, and works with the EyeToy camera.
I see that the developer is creating a sequel, World Championship Poker 2 featuring Howard Lederer. And another company is bringing out yet another console poker game, STACKED with Daniel Negreanu. And official World Series of Poker and World Poker Tour games are also forthcoming. There'll be plenty of opportunities for console players to learn about poker without risking a dime.
Posted by: Erbo | August 25, 2005 10:08 PM
For everyone who is unfamiliar with poker, but is somewhat interested; a good book for *absolute* newbies is "The Intelligent Guide to Texas Hold'em Poker" by Sam Braids. It teaches the absolute basics, but not much more. Afterwards, some must-reads are Dan Harrington's "Harrington on Hold'em," Phil Hellmuth's "Play Poker Like the Pros," and Doyle Brunson's "Super System." Mike Caro's "Book of Poker Tells" is indispensable. You all wouldn't be here if you didn't like to read, so dig in; Wil's posts will be that much more meaningful. Most sites have play money options, if you're not comfortable putting real money on the table. The interfaces differ from site to site, and I personally have found that PokerStars is the smoothest.
Very much looking forward to the WWdN tourney. It'll be pretty cool to have a nerd-only tournament, for once. :-)
Posted by: Joseph | August 25, 2005 10:21 PM
Ok.. my first comment ever.. dont be a dork... dont be a dork.. umm.. Narf? Oh and Heh Hamlet sounds like a cool name only problem i have is wasn't he poisoned in the end
Posted by: Pooksta | August 26, 2005 01:40 AM
Just discovered this blog a few days ago, Thankfully! I'm a writer and a fan and have already bookmarked this page and wasted lots of time at work. I don't play poker but I'm enjoying reading about it.
Posted by: Spamelot | August 26, 2005 07:18 AM
When the site gets redesigned, can I suggest a new section in the FAQ for poker explaining some of the shorthand you use, Wil (I can understand about 80% of it)!
I suspect Bravo has not contacted you for "Celebrity Poker Showdown" as that show would be the only 30 minute episode in the series, with the losers' lounge getting full quite quickly.
Posted by: DPJ2005 | August 26, 2005 07:48 AM
I think the poker discussions are great fun, and hearing about somebody else's horrible poker train-wreck always makes me feel a tiny bit better about mine.
What I love about the game of poker is that it is NOT a totally cerebral game like chess. I play chess, but the fact is, in chess, you HAVE to be either a tiny bit better or a tiny bit worse than your opponent, or it quickly stops being fun. If you are MUCH better or worse it is terribly boring for both parties. In poker, that simply isn't true -- even the dumbest fish will "draw out" (get a really lucky break that statistical odds say shouldn't happen) on you and take your chips.
The other thing about poker is that it is a game of more than just math and memory -- it is a people game. There are moments in high-stakes poker where you are playing everything BUT your cards -- you are playing your chip strength, your opponents chip strength, your position at the table, and your knowledge of the other players personalities and patterns of play, and only looking at your cards so that they THINK you are playing your cards. There is really no other game with so many different facets.
Plus, as they say about No-limit Texas Hold'em, it's like hunting, where your prey can suddenly start shooting back.
Charlie L
Portland, OR
CLL2001@gmail.com
Played last night in a 33 person tournament and came in 3rd. Had a shot at 1st but badly mis-played A-9s. Learned new things to improve my game, though.
Posted by: CyberChas | August 26, 2005 10:08 AM
Actually, wouldn't "Denmark" be more appropriate than Hamlet?
Posted by: DCfreakingM | August 26, 2005 10:16 AM
Am I the only one who went to the wikipedia site and saw there was a Klingon translation of hamlet? THought it was funny
By the way as to the debate oabout poker, I admit that I was thrown off by the sudden explosion of nothing but poker talk and actually hadn't been checking in her as much. But strangly I had a dream that I randomly met Wil and didn't have anything to say to him cause I hadn't been keeping up. What I'm trying to say is, what everyone else has been. We can't decide what he blogs about cause he blogs about what he wants to. Just keep an eye out for the stuff your interested in and ignore the stuff you don't want to hear about..
And after all you should have brought your own guiness if that's what you wanted... or somthing like that.
Posted by: Kudra | August 26, 2005 12:16 PM
sorry, i know this is Wil's site and he can post about whatever the heck he wants. but since it seems to be an actual debate now, i figured i'd sign up and post my two cents...
i tend to agree with the anti-poker folks. not because i think wil shouldn't post whatever he wants, just that it's boring and doesn't make any sense. i tried following some of those links to understanding poker lingo, but i really have no interest in learning all those terms.
i guess maybe my point is, even though i'm not an actor or an author or a step-dad, or a D&D player, i could relate to all those things because of the accesible way that Wil wrote about them. wil, you made those things applicable and understandable. poker... not so much.
really glad you've found something you enjoy and are so successful at it. but i've found that it's more difficult to read your site or relate to you since you got really into poker. not that that has to be the point of your site -- it is, like i said, yours. just some feedback, is all.
Posted by: codepoet80 | August 26, 2005 12:49 PM
thanks Lytspeed...i appreciate it.
Posted by: shewhobeatsass | August 26, 2005 02:25 PM
So, Wil...
If your pocket kings were heads up against Phil Ivey's AQ, would you BOTH lose?!?
:-D
Keep the poker talk coming. Your fellow people-in-need-of-support-groups are enjoying it.
Aloha
Posted by: Kukailimoku | August 26, 2005 02:38 PM
"donkey-tastic" ? Can I use that word? It cracked me up!!!
Tim in NorCal
Posted by: TimCalif | August 26, 2005 08:19 PM
Hamlet? I like it.
I think I coined one on pokerstars.com tonight. I call it the "Van Patten" - it is when a pair of 8's are enough to win (Eight is Enough) The rest of the room wasn't as amused as I was.
Posted by: Troy Rutter | August 26, 2005 08:43 PM
Huh. I was playing a $20+2 tournament this evening. My dad phoned while I was holding cowboys, and they didn't hold up against A-K offsuit. Had I been paying attention, I might not have lost the hand, but I might have anyway. Maybe I can take Lannister as my nickname....
I was close to the money, too, and my stake was over median. Piss me off.
And for my two cents, I'd be happy to see the blog go "nothing but poker".
Posted by: Jim Cowling | August 26, 2005 09:06 PM
I'm sooo tired of reading about poker. It makes me sad. I used to read here everyday. Now I click on your link and think to myself - Why? It's just going to be a bunch of stuff I don't understand or care to spend the time on. I love your writing, Wil. I just don't care for so much emphasis on this game. I keep coming back to check, but less frequently.
Posted by: kat | August 27, 2005 09:04 AM
Personally, as someone who also plays poker, I really enjoy the poker posts. However that doesn't seem to be that relevant here as a lot of folk appear to be missing the point.
Wil has a blog, in which he writes about his life right? Poker, at the moment (and probably in the future with his link up with Pokerstars), is a big part of his life so he is bound to write about it here. The man was playing in the World Series of Poker in Vegas last month! Would you have prefered not to hear about it?!
I'm sure Wil will continue to blog about all the areas that all the poker-blog-naysayers prefer to read about, but give the guy a break and let him write about things that are playing a big part in his life at the moment. Isn't that why we all starting reading his site in the first place?
Just my 2c.
Cheers,
D.
Posted by: doctorlegg | August 27, 2005 10:45 AM
Wil, what can I say when your right your right. I apologize and prostrate myself before thee oh Hamlet.
Posted by: Jonpaul | August 27, 2005 11:56 AM
Doctorlegg: You wrote, "Would you have prefered not to hear about it?!"
The answer is yes, they would prefer not to hear about things that don't interest them. The people who go to the trouble of commenting on Wil's site to say that the topics which interest him are not suitable for him to discuss display breathtaking arrogance ... alas, of a type I've grown very used to seeing online.
Folks, no one is saying you have to like all of Wil's posts, but it's rude to come to his site and tell him that his deep interests are boring. There are thousands of blogs out there which don't ever mention poker; perhaps you'd be happier reading one of those.
Posted by: Andrew | August 27, 2005 04:26 PM
This is off topic but I thought you'd like to know that the Philadelphia Inquirer mentioned you.
Posted by: Adri | August 27, 2005 04:27 PM
Hey, Wil - just watched your book reading of "Just a Geek". Nice work. I gotta tell you though; the part where Frakes tells Dorn "Bill Shatner just shit all over Teen Idol over there..." That's funny as hell. You're lucky to have had the chance to work with that group; I could not imagine life without humor. It would be amazingly dull. And insulting, considering the things we say to our friends and loved ones solely in jest. Damn, that would suck; my marriage would be over. Thanks for posting that so we could watch it. You are the i-ching.
Posted by: J.M. Lankenau | August 27, 2005 04:43 PM
Wil~
Haha, am I a total dork for remembering the site's birthday? *blushes*
I can't believe I've been reading your blog for almost 4 years....
Sure, I know nothing of POker, but I've watched it on TV when you're on, and TRY to understand what you're talking about... =D
No matter what, your blog still entertains (and even educates) me, and is the only one I faithfully read.
Here's to many more years of WilWheaton.net!
Jeannette
PS I think I have some poker chips around here somewhere that you can have to decorate your cake! ;D
Posted by: Jeannette311 | August 27, 2005 06:37 PM
Such language! It's like some alien form of communication.
That is why I never get poker.....
Posted by: Rook | August 27, 2005 06:45 PM
Haven't commented since... gahh... an email maybe two years ago?
But I just had to say: If it's ever your pleasure to attend a party (or poker game ;-) at my house and you discover there's not enough Guiness, please don't hesitate to let me know.
We may be down to three broken corn chips and a wilted broccoli fleurette, and we can deal. But if there's no more Guiness, I'm neither a good hostess nor happy girl. ;-)
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Posted by: Mettle_of_Honor | August 29, 2005 12:56 AM