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« Photoshop madness! | Main | Lost: 1 Funny. Please Return if Found » April 22, 2002Batman to the RescueI am officially a total geek right now. I am listening to the Batman soundtrack (the Danny Elfman score, not that Prince monstrosity) on my PC speakers while I type this. I think it's appropriate, because I'm writing this morning about those really awesome days of youth, when nobody understands you, your parents are completely unreasonable, and you can't wait to grow up. During those days in my life, the Batman score competed with Black Celebration and Only a Lad for air time in my car. It was part of the soundtrack of my life. Last night, I was watching the History Channel, and this commercial for some 80s super box set comes on. It's pretty standard for an 80s collection: there's Foreigner and Journey, as well as some Crowded House and Howard Jones (yeah, I thought that was a weird mix, too.) While I'm watching this commercial, I start to feel this completely overwhelming sadness. This type of massive sadness that starts so deeply within me, I can't even define its origin in a physical location. It was sadness coming out of my soul. I get this feeling that I can only describe as "hyper-nostalgia." So I'm sitting there in bed, my cat snuggled up to me on one side, my wife sound asleep on the other side, and I start to silently weep, as this David Fincheresque montage of childhood images and feelings races through my mind. I can feel my fear and nervousness the first morning I went to public high school in 9th grade. I can feel the excitement of standing in line to see Batman, in Westwood, at 9AM a few weeks before it opened. I see faces of friends long forgotten, and places which were teenage hangouts that don't even exist anymore. I feel pain, love, hope...but mostly, I feel sadness and regret that is completely overwhelming. It's like I'm sitting in my bed, mourning the passing of my youth. It's not that my life is totally miserable now, it's just so much more complicated than it was when I was a child, and I haven't really stopped to think about that in quite some time. I mean, I would gladly trade wondering whatever bullshit my wife's ex-husband is going to pull today for not being able to stay out past 12 with my friends. I would gleefully trade worrying about making mortgage payments for...well, for anything, really! :) Every time I go to Paramount, I look around and I think to myself, "man, I had it so good here. Too bad I was too young and arrogant to realize that." But that could be a series of entries, all on it's own. When I go up to my parent's house, and go to my old bedroom, I can see in my mind the phantoms of my teenage years: Watchmen comics bagged and hung on the walls. Depeche Mode concert posters above my bed, where my cat Ziggy would be sleeping. Stacks of GURPS source books on the floor, and, of course, my Mac II, complete with smokin' fast 2400 baud modem. I miss all of these things, and writing about them now I can really feel a sense of loss, and longing. I just closed my eyes, and I could see things in my old bedroom that I haven't thought about in years: 82 Los Angeles Kings season ticket stubs from 1988-89, taped to the wall next to my computer, underneath this simply dreadful fantasy-art poster I bought at a game con that same year. A clump of silly string mashed into the cottage cheese stuff on the ceiling, above my bed. Five book shelves, filled with VHS copies of the entire collection of 79 episodes of Star Trek. I recently visited one of my best friends from high school, who moved into his mom and dad's house when they moved out. It's the same house we hung out in when we were young, but now his kids are running around in it...and I can still see the path we wore through the ivy, going up the hill to my house. The house is the same, but it's so very, very different now. My best friend Darin is getting married in just a few weeks. Darin and I have known each other since I was 14 and he was 16. We have done just about everything together, and crossed lots of major bridges together on our way to adulthood. I've been married with kids for 2 years, but never felt like it was that big a deal...it's HIM getting married that makes me feel like we're finally adults, with mortgages and responsibilities. When he is married, we will have crossed another major rubicon together. So when I saw this commercial last night, it hit me: I'm turning 30 in 3 months. Three months, man. I am the primary father figure to two kids, one of whom will be a teenager two days after I turn 30. A teenager, man. I am going to be the parent to a teenager, and I'm going to be 30. I don't know why that's fucking with me as much as it is, but it sure is burning a lot of cycles in my brain. Thing is, I know that I'll be 40 someday, and I'll look back and think, "Man, I thought things were so messed up at 30...and I was so wrong," as I watch Ryan graduate from college, or get married, or whatever. But right now, I miss those wonderful days in the late 80s and early 90s, when I couldn't wait for the weekend, so I could hang out at Darin's house and play GURPS and Illuminatti, before heading out to the movies to catch whatever crappy Lethal Weapon movie was in theatres. I totally understand that saying about youth being wasted on the young. I guess that's the beauty of childhood: we don't know how tough life is going to get when we grow up, so we cavalierly waste time, blissfully ignorant of how valuable our youth is going to be to us, late one night when we can't sleep, because we're thinking about paying bills. Comments
I think Pink Floyd said it best: Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town Waiting for someone or something to show you the way
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today And then one day you find that ten years have got behind you No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
And you run and run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking And racing around to come up behind you again The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older Shorter of breath and one day closer to death
Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time Plans that either come to naught or a half page of scribbled lines Hanging on in a quiet desperation is the English way The time is gone the song is over, thought i'd something more to say Thanks for depressing me! Buy a Jeep, you'll feel better. Posted by: brandon at April 22, 2002 10:52 AMI'm turning 30 in 8 months. I know exactly how you're feeling. Married, 2 kids, my best friend just got married a few months ago. I missed my 10 year high school reunion last year, and man do I regret that. I miss my childhood, too. I remember when I couldn't wait to be an adult, and now I wish I had just taken the time to enjoy being a kid. I turned 30 last month, and I didn't have a problem with it, until the other day. I was training for a new job, and this pipsqueak 20 yr. old said that he wanted to train with me beacause I'm OLD! I never thought I looked old, but now I keep looking in the mirror to see if I really do. My husband thinks that's funny. Damn younguns! Posted by: Robin at April 22, 2002 10:54 AMYou just quoted the way I felt last night, word for word. And I'm only 23. But having a mortgage to pay and not being able to find employment in this screwed up economy... well, it gets to you. My only regret is that I wish I were an actor. That way, when I act really strange and melodramatic and "out of tune" with mainstream society, people could nod their heads knowingly and say, "Pshht, actors." Actually, I don't believe I've ever heard anyone say "pshht" before. GSL Posted by: Gregly at April 22, 2002 10:55 AMI believe the comment is: Hey Wil, Here's my take on 30: approaching 30 is far far worse than being 30. Have the party, whoop it up. But when you actually become 30, it's a relief. The excitement of approaching your 30s outweighs lamenting your 20s because you finally realize, 30 is still goddamn young. So don't sweat it. Remind me of this as I approach 40. Posted by: billder at April 22, 2002 10:56 AMGURPS? Posted by: Angel at April 22, 2002 10:56 AMI'm 33 and my childhood ain't over! The new Star Wars toys go on sale tonight and I can't wait! You going? Posted by: Ray at April 22, 2002 10:57 AMDon't be sad. This is normal. Usually between the ages of 30 and 35 or so, people suddenly have this self-evaluation hit them. You look back at your life, and have to think: gosh, that part is over. Why didn't I appreciate it more? Why did I have to make those mistakes? What do I do now? This is a bittersweet experience, but an important one, similar to the Alcoholics Anonymous "searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves." It's difficult, and it's hard, but you know, at the end of the day, whether you're 30 or 40 or 50, you are still yourself albeit with a bit more experience. Cherish this time, and these memories, and this chance to embrace the past as well as the future. And .. yeah, that kinda stuff. :-) Posted by: MrsVeteran at April 22, 2002 10:57 AM I know what you're saying. I have a 10 month old son and I turn 30 on April 29th. I've been married for almost 7 years! (in June) I'm feeling my age but I'm loving being a parent and wife. Posted by: Ness at April 22, 2002 10:57 AM(My previous post was brought to you by my Mom. Just so you know.) Posted by: MrsVeteran at April 22, 2002 10:58 AM*Sighs* You made ME feel nostalgic. I've only just turned 17!!! *Gets worried* But yeah, that was really sad man!! But you've still got loads of life ahead of you, and you can relive your teenage years through the kids :0) Posted by: EofS at April 22, 2002 10:59 AMWow, turning 23 on Friday doesn't seem so bad now . . . thanks man! Posted by: Amanda at April 22, 2002 11:00 AM*Realises something* Gosh darnit, if you're nearly 30 then I'm gonna have to forget my childhood/teen crush and fantasies!!! Grrrr ;0) Posted by: EofS at April 22, 2002 11:01 AM1 year, 274 days, 9 hours and some minutes before 30, I begin to realize that life is all too swift in it's movements, all too damn fast. Too many memories flood my thoughts, as I sit at my desk, wondering what bill will be in the mailbox today, as I crawl in rush hour traffic toward home. Wil is right. I miss those days of jumping over the local golf course's fences and heading down to the creek that ran down it's middle. To find friends, adventure and just waste some time way, playing, fooling around and not even realize your just a little closer to the end of the ride. But, I look forward to the first cry of my first child. The first ball to be thrown by him or her, before little league tryouts. The first school dance for them. Life is moments. Whether lived, or remembered, it all becomes a part of the whole of our lives. Here's to life, and the hope that tomorrow will come... Philosophizing in Philly, Leo Posted by: Leo Romero at April 22, 2002 11:06 AMFor those who don't know find out about GURPS here: http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/ You know I would say take heart, but I think inside all of this is a sweet joy welling up that you will only realize once you have passed the milestone and moved onward. It's like the first time you did anything - an Ollie, first century bike ride, first 10K run - the anticipation brings up more than you can possibly explain. The realization leaves you wondering what you were so worried about. That we all go through it is no salve for what you are feeling right now and that you will ultimately rejoice in moving forward is probably of no help either. Youth is not wasted on the young it is lavished on us in the only time when we can truly marvel and form into who we will be. Peace be with you. once again Uncle Willy voices a nerve hitting mood. i'm but a wee lad of 25 and have been going through that same 'life evaluation'. thankfully i don't have the kids or the mortgage, but to look back and pinpoint the lost opportunities, friends i've lost touch with and people i've truely underappreciated...is a long list. one more year, turning away colder, gets colder: and i realise i'm older who would've thought? i'll admit, i did hope Wil, You're bringing me down. Down like a sledge hammer. And you didn't cross EVERY bridge with Darin! I mean, all I saw was you, Feldman, River, and the fat kid on that bridge! No Darin! What's the story there?! Posted by: Buntz at April 22, 2002 11:10 AMWil, Take care,
I know just how you feel Will. I'm going to be 40 in 3 months, and I have many of the same feelings. What is it about these milestone birthdays that make us all weepy and sentimental! Hey Wil.... Ive had several urges to write in the past but nothing moved my hand as much as this. I turned 30 March 1st and in the time up to that, and since, Ive often found myself thinking the same thoughts. At any rate, you're not alone, dig? On a less somber note, and since Im posting anyway, Your "Im a cowboy, howdy , howdy, howdy." headline cracked me up a few months ago. Great Far Side ref. Sorry to go off topic..... little Posted by: littleman at April 22, 2002 11:23 AMYeah, I used to have this childhood, then this woman came and put me in a ginger bread cake cage where I hunted deer and tried not to contract syphillis. God bless wee willy wheaton and all that sail in/on/in him/her. Call me the Queen of Nostalgia. You just can't avoid it when you've live the last 19 years of your life in the same medium-sized town. From 8 to 27 I've lived in the same place. Learned to drive here, fell in love (and had my heart broken) for the first time here, buried my first pet here, lost my virginity here, experienced all the violent peaks and valleys of adolecence here. But one thing I've learned is that the more you look back the greater your chance for taking a wrong turn on the road ahead. I, for one, am looking forward to my 30's. Damn, Wil, think about it. All of the awkward insecurities of your teens and tumultuous instabilities of your twenties are behind you! You are more stable, more settled, more comfortable than circumstances of life have allowed before. I have loved my twenties. In retrospect, I also loved my teens. But just because what lies ahead is different than what came before, it shouldn't make you sad. Rather, be grateful that you've made it this far on the path to see another phase of life. Live what you are, not what you were. Life is one great trip. Posted by: Interplanet Janet at April 22, 2002 11:25 AMYeah but on the plus side you look like you're about 23. And you don't have to worry about your parents catching you mastrubating. Posted by: J at April 22, 2002 11:26 AMI hear ya Wil. I'm not THAT old, only 27, but my 1 year High School Reunion is in a few months. Makes me think of HIgh School. 10 years ago, and what life was like. But, I would never go back. I wouldn't trade all the personal growth and insight for freedom from responsibility. But, how about just a week of it? ;) Posted by: RevXaos at April 22, 2002 11:27 AMHi Will, That's so funny. My friend and I were just chatting about this very topic this morning. I'm 25 and lately the fact that I will be turning 30 in 4 1/2 years has been on my mind. Last month one of my close friends celebrated her 26th birthday and I told her, "Wow, four more years and you'll be 30." She glared at me and said, "I hadn't even thought of that, gee thanks." Immediately, I felt really bad that those words had slipped out of my mouth. I also reminsince about my childhood frequenctly. My life now is pretty good even though like many my age, I'm boggled down with student loans, rent, bills, etc. But, I think about where I envisioned myself to be at this age when I was 10, 13, and 18 and I feel a little disappointed. However, when we are that young, I think that we are naively optimistic. Like you said, at that age we don't know the realities of life as an adult. Anywhoo - I appreciated this post. It's always nice and comforting to know that others feel the same way. I also, have been seeing those I know getting married, having kids, etc and it's both happy and disturbing at the same time. Maybe this sounds silly coming from someone that's 25 and not as close to pushing 30, but it's how I feel. Thanks... -V Posted by: Vera at April 22, 2002 11:34 AMYou sound like Richard Dryfues grieving over the loss of his youth with a typewriter:) Sorry, I couldn't help but notice the similarity. Everybody gets hit with a flood of nostalgia at sometime(s) in their life, it can be depressing and joyful. I try hard to just appreciate the fact that I got to live my childhood once, some kids get robbed of their youth entirely, that's truly sad. I'll be hitting 30 in September; I don't know about you, but I plan on leaving my 20's with a bang! Posted by: Andrew at April 22, 2002 11:34 AMWow, I had a similiar experience yesterday, except (geekily enough) from a set of dice I found. It was the same set of dice we used to play our pen and paper games with when I was just 14 and there they were again still being used by other people for D'N'D. Realizing that you've now known someone (the owner of the dice) for more than half your life is kind of a scary thing. I think (as others have already mentioned) that those of us around 30 all have these kinds of feelings. I think it's ok to feel nostalgic, just don't get lost in it. Posted by: Gaea at April 22, 2002 11:36 AMHi! I just wanted to say that I am probably the only person having more fun at 32, than I ever did as a teenager. I was a model when I was 15-18, so a lot of the fun "geeky" stuff that I really should have been enjoying was missed out on. My hubby and I STILL play RPG's (not GURPS, but White Wolf), we have Classic 80's Arcade Games in our gameroom, a slushie machine, and have marathon weekends of online gaming. The best part is being able to afford the toys you couldn't have as a kid. So enjoy the nostalgia, but remember, 30 is not bad, if you still remember how to be a kid! :) Posted by: Debi at April 22, 2002 11:36 AMI know exactly how you feel. I went back to school and am finishin up college at 26 and sheesh, these kids are all so young... My solution is to latch on to the things I love and don't look back. I still play GURPS, and D&D, and read sci-fi and pine over geek girls who see me as a friend. It's like a dual life -- I'm the 'adult type', but I'm also the kid, I guess...that's what you have to do. Remember that you can have fun, even when life tries to convince you you can't. And from what you've said, Wil, you do that all the time. If you want, you can sit at my table anytime...real or online. --Matt Posted by: Matrygg at April 22, 2002 11:36 AM30 is the age at which you start realizing that you will have to grow up sometime. 40 is the age at which you realize that you will eventually have to decide what you want to be when you grow up. 50, now -- it kind of hits you that you really are an adult - no way out of it! You're also (ugh!) middle-aged. But the good thing is that you're who you're going to be and are comfortable with it. Life gets easier as you get older. Look forward to the days that come while you cherish the days past. They are a part of you and make you what you are. Posted by: treschic at April 22, 2002 11:37 AM30 is the age at which you start realizing that you will have to grow up sometime. 40 is the age at which you realize that you will eventually have to decide what you want to be when you grow up. 50, now -- it kind of hits you that you really are an adult - no way out of it! You're also (ugh!) middle-aged. But the good thing is that you're who you're going to be and are comfortable with it. Life gets easier as you get older. Look forward to the days that come while you cherish the days past. They are a part of you and make you what you are. Posted by: treschic at April 22, 2002 11:37 AM30 is the age at which you start realizing that you will have to grow up sometime. 40 is the age at which you realize that you will eventually have to decide what you want to be when you grow up. 50, now -- it kind of hits you that you really are an adult - no way out of it! You're also (ugh!) middle-aged. But the good thing is that you're who you're going to be and are comfortable with it. Life gets easier as you get older. Look forward to the days that come while you cherish the days past. They are a part of you and make you what you are. Posted by: treschic at April 22, 2002 11:37 AMOMG, I will be 30 in 4 months, I have 3 kids, been married for what seems like forever and both of us, last night, finally, consciously have decided to grow up and stop worrying about what EVERYONE will think of us. We are going to live for us, and as an example of what we want our kids to turn out like. We had this cool conversation with our son in the car the other day, we asked him who's job was more important, the doctor or the garbage man. We told him both, if we didn't have either we would be in a heap of it. We went on to tell him that the reason he needed to study is so he can *choose* to be anything he wanted, not have his job choose him. So if our son chooses to be a doctor, computer programmer or icecream taster, or even a garbage man, we hope he won't look back on his life when he is nearly 30, like us, and regret all the doors that we closed because of our haste to be what we thought our families needed us to be. Posted by: qBall at April 22, 2002 11:38 AMWow Wil! You're describing what many of us 20-somethings are feeling as well. I'm just a few years younger than you, but I'm hitting that mid-20s crisis syndrome. My friend, who just turned 30 in Feb., went through what you're feeling now. (Although the event that struck him was the fact that Matthew Broderick, aka Ferris Bueller, is 40 now.) Heck, I dwell on the 80s and early 90s every now and then...but then you gotta think: there's a lot to look forward to, as well. And you'll always have friends and family to help you every step of the way :) And if all else fails, watch 'the Simpsons' every weeknight (and on Sundays). Viewers still love to watch it 'cause these people never age??? (Geesh, Bart would be my age if he actually aged!) Oh yeah, there's always Depeche Mode,too! 22 years in the business...and still at it! (And these guys went through hell in their 30s, but got through it--if they can do it, so can a bunch of us 20-somethings dreading the big three-o. Posted by: smoon at April 22, 2002 11:39 AMonce again I'm impressed at the depth of your writing, and the ability to express what all of us, more or less, are feeling these days. My best friend from middle and high school is getting divorced. Bloody divorced, man. Divorce is something that happens to older people, to adults, who can handle the pressure, who wimp out and take the easy way out.... or at least, that's what it used to be. Now it's a fact of life, and when I think of how close I have come to that too, it's scary. Mortgage, job, baby, BABY, me for crying out loud with a daughter who is just barely walking and throwing food on the ground when she eats. I found turning 31 to a bigger deal than turning 30. I suppose it just drove home that I was now firmly on my way to middle age. Strangely, the thought of turning 32 this year isn't a big deal at all. Posted by: Chris at April 22, 2002 11:43 AMDude, I know exactly how you feel. I've been dealing with the same kind of thing. Well, except different. I'm turning 28 this year. Got my high school reunion notice. I have none of the things you have and that's depressed me. I'm not married, no kids, no house (I rent an apartment) - none of that. Getting older sucks. It really does. Things you talked about missing, I do too. Is it me, or do those things seem like a completely different lifetime? Posted by: sarcastic cheese at April 22, 2002 11:44 AMDude, be thankful that you have friends from back then you can still count as friends and not as people you have grown away from. That makes times like this even more difficult. I'm 32, and I am very far from any of my family and friends, or the people I grew up around. I've been through the "quarter life crisis", as have many of my former acquaintances. This was also exacerbated by my divorce, which was bad. I dealt with it all by remembering who I was, by getting in touch with the crazy sonofabitch that used to run through the streets protesting war, greed, and pretty much the powers that be. I forgot who I was and became a shell of myself, all just to be a "productive member of society" so I could support my family. Now I exist not as a drone that exists to work, but as a vital human being that thrives in spite of society. That helped me, but I'm afraid that for someone who is happy with where their life has ended up you'll just have to face the fact that all things change and that we can let them change us, resist change to the point of stagnation, or find a way to positively affect the changes in our world. Easier said than done, but it is worth trying. Remember this: your youth was not wasted if you learned from every stupid mistake and every glorious victory. Reflect on it, but don't spend too much time there, because let's face it, we were all idiots when we were kids. I don't want to be 17 again. I appreciate the freedoms of being an adult, even with the responsibilities. One final thought: your body ages, but that doesn't mean your mind has to grow old. Besides, they're doing some great stuff with cloning and genetics, so if we're lucky we can be "young" forever. :) Posted by: tskll at April 22, 2002 11:49 AMI totally understand where you are coming from. I recently went to a friends house on the street I grew up and we got bored so we decided to take a walk. Worst mistake ever. We began walking and all of my childhood memories came rushing back to me and I felt so lost. The same street where I knew we would make ruts in the pavement walking to and from eachothers homes was now unfamiliar territory. The times when you planned how your life would be and now looking and realizing that you have not acheieved all that you had wanted to by this age. I can say that my age has taught me many things but I would give anything to be a kid again just for a day. Remember the movie "Big" The would be the ultimate wish. And just as he did Im sure that we would miss our lives the way the are now even though childhood was a blast. Posted by: MystiqueFaerie at April 22, 2002 11:51 AMBefore I start, Happy birthday for Friday Amanda. I have two quotes which I believe, should cheer any 30 (or near as dammit to 30)-somethings:
Allthough you may grin, when your ship comes in and you've got the stock market beat, but remember;
We may grow older, but we BLATANTLY refuse to grow up! I hope that cheers folk up. Posted by: Foxychik at April 22, 2002 11:53 AM*hugs* As painful as the nostalgia can be, it's nice to go back to the "carefree" days of childhood. Just use it as a lesson to appreciate everyday of your life. I think it's the things we see happening around us that make us feel old. I'm 22 and most of my high school friends are married with children now. I look at it and think how old I feel, but then I realize... I'm still young. And I still will be when I'm 80. Getting older is a requirement in life... grow up is not. Posted by: Crystalia at April 22, 2002 11:53 AMI just turned 30 in December. I'm married (one year in a couple of weeks, woohoo!) with a mortgage, three year-old son and another baby on the way. It seems only natural to start looking back. I don't think you really have the perspective to start thinking about the past until you're around this age. The thing that I miss the most is my early-mid 20's when I was single and living in Manhattan. Everything seemed so full of possibilities. I think back on the choices I've made and wonder if things had been different if I had taken more risks. It's amazing how you make some choices that end up having a major affect on the course that your life is taking, but you don't realize it at the time. At first, this can be very depressing, but then you start thinking about the things that you can change and take joy in, like the growth and education (I'm talking about life education, not just schooling) of your own kids. I think somebody else's post about being a doctor or a garbage man was great. It's the worst thing in the world to feel like your options are limited because of the views of your parents or others that have influence on you. I'm making a point not to be that way with my kids. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you're not the only one feeling this way. It's great to look back and miss those things. I think it's something you don't want to ever lose. It's also great to look at how you can use those experiences to change the lives of others, especially the ones on whom you have the most direct influence. Rock on. I just rounded the 30 corner a month and a half ago and this new local station e105 which plays a lot of "80's music" has certainly struck my nostalgia chord. I go to bed around 10:30 or 11 every night now instead of the 4am times after playing some role playing and cheesing for a night. I have a beautiful baby daughter who I wouldn't trade the world for; but me, a father? I remember drinking beer -- and lots of it -- almost every Friday night while seeing some great live local music. I now feel drunk if I crack a cold one open once every couple of months. I remember being 15 and watching this new series on TV called Star Trek: The Next Generation and feeling pretty good that there was someone my age represented on TV that gave intelligent teenagers a good name. Well, that one didn't last long. The writers made it embarrassing for someone my age to suggest to an authority figure that any problem could be solved by soldering a VISOR to an android's positronic net and cross fading the output through the pattern buffers. Shit. That must have been when I aged. 30 isn't so bad. I have the best 'Net access I have EVER had in my life.. -J Posted by: Jesse C. Slicer at April 22, 2002 11:59 AMwil: i've been hanging around your website for several months now. this is the first time i've been moved to find the courage to post a comment. i'm approaching 30 myself this year and, like many of your readers have already expressed, it's an overwhelming feeling. i've found myself wistfully looking back on my younger days much more often lately. wondering where the time has flown and marveling at how far i've come in those tumultuous years. i, too have been caught up in those emotional whirlwinds - where you're suddenly and inexplicably overcome by so many feelings, and you find yourself silently weeping and smiling at the same time. breathtaken by the strength of the memory and left wondering where that "you" has gone and what's become of that life.... then, i reflect on all that i have accomplished since then. who i've become, and the blessings i've been given. it's all part of the journey. i'm not happy about turning 30. but, i'm convincing myself that, like everything in life - you get out of it what you put into it. i think i'll make it a new beginning. hope you'll find the same. So I hate to sound like I'm plugging something, but... Anyway, I highly recomend it for a week night rental. Jer Posted by: JWL at April 22, 2002 12:01 PMI'm turning 20 in August and I wish I could go back to highschool. :( Well I assume life gets better. Posted by: DaleJrBlueEyes at April 22, 2002 12:02 PMThat has got to suck. Nostalgia seems to have biten alot of people recently. Myself included. I've been thinking about the eighties and ninties I love you so much honey...but Damn you could make a movie from that!!! I thought my head was f**ked!!! I am 23 in 2 months and feel like my life is over so...i know what its like to be overcome with emotion at the things that remind you of the good/bad times! it kinda reminded me of all those "the way it was movies" you could write a movie of your life and you're ONLY 29.... Don't dispair it would be worse for us if we could go back.... Love,light and peace Andrea Posted by: andrea at April 22, 2002 12:06 PMI may only be 23, but damn can I relate to what you're saying. I went through this exact stage last summer... I bought the old Sweet Valley High books (ok, I'm sure you don't remember SVH since they were chick books, but you dig) and I sat at the computer downloading the credits to old 80's cartoons like Inspector Gadget and the Getalong Gang. Remember those?? Ahh... I get teary eyed just thinking about it. Glad to know I'm not alone. Posted by: Danielle at April 22, 2002 12:09 PMonce again I'm impressed at the depth of your writing, and the ability to express what all of us, more or less, are feeling these days. My best friend from middle and high school is getting divorced. Bloody divorced, man. Divorce is something that happens to older people, to adults, who can handle the pressure, who wimp out and take the easy way out.... or at least, that's what it used to be. Now it's a fact of life, and when I think of how close I have come to that too, it's scary. Mortgage, job, baby, BABY, me for crying out loud with a daughter who is just barely walking and throwing food on the ground when she eats. Hey, Wil, I'll be 45 in July. I married my wife when I was 39. (I had never been married, or engaged, before.) We have 5-year-old and 2-year-old sons, and sometime in the next 3 weeks, we'll have a newborn son. I'm tired all the time and I worry about money a lot. Mortgage, bills, Catholic school this coming fall... We're closing on the refinancing of our house tomorrow, for God's sake. I've bought maybe one CD in the last year. I haven't had a drink of alcohol since January of 1987. Fortunately, my family is what really matters to me. I don't want to be as responsible as I am, but I choose to do the best I can for my kids and my wife, at least most of the time. I take my hat off to you, 29 years old with a wife and two stepsons, one of them almost a teenager! There's no way in hell I could have done what you're doing at your age, as far as relationships and family are concerned. Particularly when it comes to bullshit-pulling ex-husbands. I know you're happy with your life, and I hope you're also very proud of yourself and your accomplishments. Have a great day. Posted by: John at April 22, 2002 12:12 PMI hear ya. I get the same feelings. But I ask myself why I'd want to turn back the clock...things are good now, really good. Back then, I had no money, no idea how I'd get by in the world once I was "all growed up." But I also didn't care. We were old enough to make our own choices but young enough that consequences weren't a concern...a short-lived combination (which is probably for the better). Posted by: Paul at April 22, 2002 12:14 PMHeh heh. I'm 35. Celibacy, getting winded lifting the remote, minivan, living in your fucking backyard pulling dandelions every goddamned day. You get used to living without hope. Without a future. You will too, Uncle Willie. Soon... Oh. Say, within six months after turning 30, all remnants of your previous life will have been crushed out never to be reignited again. Then... You spend the next fifty years planning on who's gonna get your shit when you die. But check it out... Spudnuts has an ACE-IN-THE-HOLE. My ace? I got me a full head of hair. Oh yeah. No, this isn't just a nice sort of cover-job to stave off MPB. This is a motherfucking kudzu-heap of insurance on top of my dome which... Will. Not. Yield. To the ravages of Big Daddy Entropy. Fucker. This head of hair makes my barber weep with envy. Sometimes I have to keep my eye on him to make sure he doesn't stab me in the back of my head and STEAL MY HAIR. AND my brain. Which is pretty good too. So. Yeah, I'm old. Yeah, I got the family thing to crush my mortal soul. Yep. But... I got that hair, fucker. Posted by: Spudnus at April 22, 2002 12:26 PMOops. Forgot the T in my name. See? Pretty damned soon I won't even know where I live. I'll be crrapping in my hand and trying to use it as currency to buy a copy of Newsweek at the Circle K. But even as I am attempting to exchange my own feces for a completely different heap of feces... I'll have my hair. Suck on THAT, Michael Eisner, you BITCH! Posted by: Spudnuts at April 22, 2002 12:29 PMyou forgot the thought for the day Suggested: Oh man, do I know how you feel. I was moving some of my things out of my parents basement this weekend, when I found all of these boxes full of old School stuff. Why in the world I kept Algebra homework from 8th grade is beyond me. Another box had stacks of those teen magazines from the 80's. I had a little side business going in Middle School trading posters with other girls. And wouldn't you know that our Wil was in a lot of those magazines. Yeah, I too, had a mild crush. How emberrassing it is to try and explain that away to my husband now. Well, anyway, Wil thanks for the memories. Just think about it wil, turning 30 is not as bad as turning 40. Your not 30 yet either and it's not that old man! my mom stresses about being 50, you're in your prime!!!! Oh. And one other thing... Youth SUCKED. Now... I got me some sweet tech toys, can hop a plane any goddamned time I feel like it to... you know... eat chalupas at Disneyland, bitch, and catch a Lakers game, buy some spudnuts. Fuck the 80's. Fucking whoppers and Stove Top Stuffing. Jesus Christ. I can get me some kimchee and tasty Indian foodstuffs whose names I cannot pronounce or watch some cool DVDs on my iBook while shitting, consume premium espresso beverages. Motherfucker! I can talk to Wesley Crusher from my goddamned toilet! And, fella, Ronald Reagan was worse than Dubya. Fuck nostalgia. What? You'd trade eating cucumber sammiches with Dan Quayle for playing hot blues harmonica post-dodgeball with Tiffany? Shit. Get your fucking priorities straight. Imo go get me some spicy tuna roll. Posted by: Spudnuts at April 22, 2002 12:37 PMGotta say I envy Spudnuts his full head of hair. It's probably not gray, either, is it? Posted by: John at April 22, 2002 12:38 PMSince I was not really alive whilst you were a real youngster, seeing that I am almost the big 23, you must put this in focus. You do not remember everything that happened in the days of yore. For Christ sake, one of my roommates is 30 and he used to have a mullet, and he listened to Dokken. The 80’s were hell man! Sure there are a few things I miss, all day “Lost In Space” marathons, freeze tag, red bat baseball, but the sun will rise another day. And as an adult, well, kind of, you can do all the things you never could, like buy BB guns, swords, Transformers the Movie, pr0n, all the Legos you want, and best of all, you can appreciate all that free stuff your parents gave you, and you never said “thanks” unless they told you to. Also, you can hold hands with the one you love in public without getting cooties. No regrets. Posted by: Slothgar at April 22, 2002 12:40 PMI know how you feel, Wil. The irony is that we spend the first 18 or so years of our lives running like hell to get away from home, and the rest of our lives trying to get back there. (I don't mean go back and live with our parents... I mean the don't have many worries compared to now, didn't have to pay the bills, was covered by someone else's insurance, always had someone to turn to whenever I needed it comfort of childhood.) I wonder what could of been of my life if I had taken another road. Posted by: ze-mag at April 22, 2002 12:43 PMDude, lighten the fark up! would you really want to do 17 all over again? Turning 30 was great, you're comfortable in your own skin & with who you are, you've got more confidence, less concerned with what everyone else thinks-you're your own person, and the sex is pretty great too. I've been there so many times before. Maturity is the salve that soothes the pain of lost youth. Embrace your increase in years gracefully. It really isn't all that bad. Once you get to my age you can start to backslide into your second childhood.......I know how it's done and it's fun! Just think all of the fun of a teenager and all that experience! Posted by: Spectre at April 22, 2002 12:47 PMOh god, Wil. I just celebrated my 35th birthday on April 9th. I was so irritable!! and every time the ffing phone rang with well-wishers I wanted to scream. Birthdays should not be like this. Cheer up, thirty wasn't that bad! It's the "35? OH MY GOD I ONLY HAVE 5 YEARS LEFT IN THE 30s" scare that really gets you. And might I add that you are aging well, you don't look thirty so rock on!! :-D Posted by: Dimple at April 22, 2002 12:48 PMI turn 29 in September. I've been married for 8 years this July and have 2 kids and a mortgage. My 10 yr reunion is this October. I've often found myself reminiscing over my lost youth. But ya know, I wouldn't trade what I have now for anything. I don't foresee 30 as being a huge deal to me, because I'm comfortable with my life, past AND present. Posted by: minus7 at April 22, 2002 12:50 PMIn turning 30, one thing is giving up, a little, the sweet, sunny, exuberant feeling of being a young and new, running into the wind. Thinking of all the unseen places and things to experience. The song "Yesterday, by Roy Clark" reminds me of the color and feeling of those times. A thousand dreams I dreamed the splendid things I planned, I always built to last on weak and shifting sand. I lived by night and shunned the naked light of day. And only now I see how the years ran away. "Yesterday when I was young, so many happy songs were waiting to be sung. So many wild pleasures lay in store for me, and so much pain my dazzled yes refused to see. Yesterday the moon was blue, and every crazy day broguth something new to do. I Used my magic age as if it were a wand, and never saw the waste and emptiness beyond. The game of love I played with arrogance and pride, and every flame I lit too quickly quickly died... I think it's good to be able to feel deeply the feelings of life, the changing seasons of time. And to know we can keep some things about being young if we really really want to. My 16th birthday was last friday so I have been thinking about when I was youger a lot too. I am 16 now, 16! Thats 2 years away from 18! Then in two more years I will be 20! Its really scary to think about. Posted by: Michelle at April 22, 2002 12:50 PMWow. All I can say is....wow.
Uncle Willy you seem to be going thru a mid life It will be okay. Breathe. Posted by: bluecat/redblanket at April 22, 2002 12:55 PMWow. It's so nice to know I'm not the only one who thinks about such things - the past, how did I get here, where has the time gone, bittersweet memories. I still wonder, perhaps more than I should, what ever happened to friends I used to have, people I used to know. When I read the part about closing your eyes and visualizing your old room, I stopped and did the same. Amazing, I can still hear the Paula Abdul. I'm not exactly old (24), but I like being older. As a teenager I was always frustrated because society today seems to dismiss teenagers. Everything is a "phase".. Being told my choice of career was a "phase" was on of the most frustrating things about being a teen. I'm lucky, I knew what I wanted to do when I was 15, and I'm still doing it. But man oh man did the kids mock me and my parents try to discourage me. That feels like yesterday as much as it feels like a lifetime ago. I think no matter how old you are, as long as you're learning and growing and aware of who you've been, you'll always come out on top eventually. -CarolP Wil, the funny thing is, I bet most people think of you as "that kid from Star Trek." Unlike a lot of child celebrities, you've made something of yourself since then- you have a loving family, you seem pretty successful in the projects you take on, and of course, you have all of us! I totally understand what you're going through (I've been thinking the same way for a long time now), but hell, being our age is pretty damn good too. As long as you live every day as if it's the most important, that's what counts. I just watched that "Inner Light" episode of TNG, so sue me. ;) Posted by: Toonces at April 22, 2002 12:57 PMI just turned 29 three days ago, I know what you mean by "hyper-nostalgia". By the way, I have to listen to "The 'Burbs" by Jerry Goldsmith to recall my memories. Well... Posted by: Christoph at April 22, 2002 01:02 PMYou write so well. Posted by: miel at April 22, 2002 01:04 PMA song comes to mind: "There are places I remember, all my life, though some have changed." I can't believe I'm right at that age when I can experience "hyper-nostalgia". Just two days ago, I was thinking about the same things. The mark of crayon on the tile of my childhood bedroom from when a loud clap of thunder made me jump when I was coloring. Or the iron bed frame on the top bunk of the bed my sister slept in that I would hit my head on every morning. My best friend who would rush to my house every after noon to watch Saturday Morning Cartoons because she didn't have a TV. man I'm getting misty eyed. Posted by: Pmacca01 at April 22, 2002 01:05 PMJust remember what I always remember, Wil - "I may have to get old, but you can't make me do it with dignity". Posted by: Compaq Guy at April 22, 2002 01:06 PMWil, Spudnuts shoots! He scores! The crowd goes wild! Thank God for hair, that's all I have to say. Posted by: MrsVeteran at April 22, 2002 01:14 PMDiscovered your site on FARK (where else?). Been reading it everyday now for a month or so. I'm only 18, but once in a while something reminds me of how things used to be only.. 9-10 years ago and ask myself why the hell I didn't appreciate it more. That's just the thing, when you ARE that young you're just TOO young to appreciate it. So when you look back, older and hopefully wiser, you have something to contrast to. "Those were the days.. but now is THE day" kinda.. ish. May just be talking outta my ass, but I hear you loud 'n' clear. Keep up the writing, you're my hero man. Posted by: Peter at April 22, 2002 01:14 PMI'm right there with you, Wil. And I thought I was the only one feeling these overwhelming senses of longing for the way things used to be. What really f's me up are the random triggers... Counting change at the laundromat and remembering my first day of work at Burger King when I was 14; breathing the early morning air and reminiscing about the 8 summers I worked at a summer camp in the Boundary Waters of Minnesota; the scent of Obsession and my first kiss in junior high... Ah, good times... Okay, now I'm depressed again. Smurf off, Wil! Posted by: Steve at April 22, 2002 01:18 PMI'm 25 going on 26 in just a few weeks. I've been feeling *really* nostalgic lately. I found a box of things in my basement a few weeks ago. Just some old stuff of mine that I just can't seem to bring myself to throw away. An old "Darth Vader" keychain, a very worn cassette of "Good for your Soul" (Oingo Boingo), a copy of a really bad demo tape that I once did with my best friend in High School (which is really all I have left of him, as we had a serious falling out and haven't talked in nearly 4 years now..), a drawing of a dragon that I did years ago, while sitting in the car, in an old cemetary, with the first girl I ever fell in love with.., my first d20 and a couple worn character sheets, my first drivers license, and other things.. I sat and just cryed over the box for about an hour.. I also think it's cool to find somebody else that was also a Boingo fan.. that was our theme music.. :) I wish I hadn't read Spudnuts' entry. Spudnuts wrote: I'm just glad he didn't say "Uncle Willy" or I'd have never gotten that image out of my head. --NT I wish I hadn't read Spudnuts' entry. Spudnuts wrote: I'm just glad he didn't say "Uncle Willy" or I'd have never gotten that image out of my head. --NT I wish I hadn't read Spudnuts' entry. Spudnuts wrote: I'm just glad he didn't say "Uncle Willy" or I'd have never gotten that image out of my head. --NT I think Pink Floyd said it best Ticking away the moments that make up the dull day Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain And you run and run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time I turn thirty in two months. I'm still capable of having a teenage crush on Thom Yorke. I still decorate my room with Clash posters. I still spend entirely too much money on childish bullshit, and I have a ten year old son that I adopted out that I still have contact with. It fucks with my head. You have my sympathies. Oh, and another thing: I was told by a friend that your twenties are just a dress rehearsal for your thirties, and that you feel relieved that you don't have to do your twenties again. I don't know if that applies to me or you, but it's something to think about. Hang in there. Aphonia Posted by: aphonia at April 22, 2002 01:51 PMWil, When I look back on my pre-30 years, I always feel like it was a time when I could have done so many things and just didn't. Why didn't I go with all of my friends on that trip to New York? Why didn't I go to that Cure concert in 1985? Why didn't I pose for the Playboy series, "Women of the SEC" back in college? The biggest loss I feel is the loss of time. Posted by: RustyLocks at April 22, 2002 02:00 PMHmmm... Wil, as has been pointed out elsewhere in this thread, 30 is just a number. You're only down because this number is giving you an opportunity to remember how far you've come, with both the good and the bad consequences of that. Being the sci-fi person you are, I assume you've read Orson Scott Card's Ender series. If you haven't, read them. Especially the later novels: Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, and particularly Children of the Mind. Ender's character is interesting because he too was a child hero, precocious beyond anyone's expectations, and by the time he was a teenager, he had done more than most people do all their lives. Above all, he had committed atrocities that he would have to live with for the rest of his life. Ender's Game deals with that loss of innocence; the subsequent novels explore how that kind of childhood shaped his adult life. Of course, this is just a story, but Card's genius has always been his ability to backhandedly offer remarkable insights into the human existence. It's made me think more deeply about life, and I'm not quite 19. On the flip side: "Speak for yourself. I plan to live forever." Posted by: da Schmiz at April 22, 2002 02:03 PMI think you've explained the way many of us feel. I'm only 25, but every day I have "adult" things to deal with. Get up early, go to work, pay bills, pay taxes, deal with traffic ridden commutes, etc. Back in our childhood, we only had to worry about what we were doing after school and that weekend. Homework was another headache to deal with, but thinking back to my high school days, I would gladly trade my "adult" life for those days gone by. Every time I hear those 80's tunes or see those old tv shows, I always feel a pang of sadness. Sad that those days are gone... But then I turn to me boyfriend as a cheesy 80's song comes on the radio and do our horrible lip syncing and air guitar, then one of us will catch the other off guard and soak them with a water gun or silly string. Those days of youth may have gone, but that doesn't mean we can't act like a kid every now and again! It's great stress relief. Trust me. Posted by: Lizhume at April 22, 2002 02:04 PMi just visted the college bar back in good ol' denton, texas, this weekend.... talk about nostalgia! there was a band playing on the roof and my drinks were made right all night! made me even kinda want to return to texas, because the nights in april are just about the best weather ever (for tx, that is) but then i remembered that i've moved on... left that behind... and am probably better off for it. Posted by: pavegirl at April 22, 2002 02:05 PMDon't cry Wil, that bums me out to hear about that. Wil, I turn 40 exactly one month after your b-day (8/29). I remember turning 30 as being nostalgic and fun (one of my students gave me a gag gift of "Just for Men" grey hair remover). I believe we can be as old as we decide to be. My 70-year-old mother can run circles around me and maintains a childlike (not childish) and inquisitive interest in the world around her. People *always* think she is younger than she actually is. When I was in Ireland a few weeks ago, I met a 93-year-old lady who whose mind was clear as a bell and I had more fun at her house for 2 hours than anywhere else on the island. You said it yourself in one of your blogs the other day: Stay Gold. If you stay gold, the chronological age won't matter. Peace Ahud Posted by: Ahud at April 22, 2002 02:05 PM
I'll be 49 in two weeks. Don't think THAT hasn't pushed a few buttons for me. I can't believe it myself because in some ways I still feel 18. But, there's a secret. We old kids can tell you young kids about it until we're blue in the face -- but you won't believe it anymore than I did when I was turning 30. And the secret is: when you get older, you get more comfortable in your skin. It's not the same as having "that edge" that we all savor when we're in our teens and twenties. It's different. And it's indescribably delicious. Sure it comes with a sharp whiff of nostalgia, but that's part of the package. Savor what you're experiencing -- you'll do it again and again as you grow older. And that "edge" is a movable bar on the scale of life. You'll be amazed where it will take you. Posted by: The SpaceWriter at April 22, 2002 02:13 PMWil, (and all you commenters!) I couldn't have said it any better, and I don't think I can honestly add anything that the rest of you haven't already said. I'm just going to sit here, listen to the 80's station on the radio, and smile wistfully because now I know I'm not alone. Posted by: Stuffie at April 22, 2002 02:25 PMWil, man, it must be the planetary alignment getting everyone into a blue funk. Me included. Nostalgic for all sorts of things.... Posted by: sandra at April 22, 2002 02:29 PMYou know who NEVER cries? Corey Feldman. Bitch. Don't show weekness to either one of the Coreys. We've come so far. Don't throw it all away now. You show weekness to one of the Coreys and they will fucking eat you for lunch. Posted by: Spudnuts at April 22, 2002 02:31 PMOh man, I just turned 40 and with my second girl just born I have felt exactly the same way for a couple of months... I don't think youth is wasted on the young, I just wish it lasted longer.... Posted by: larryb at April 22, 2002 02:31 PMTiffany doesn't cry. Carrottop doesn't cry. You think Pauly Shore cries? He doesn't. Bill Shatner doesn't cry. ACT LIKE A MAN! Posted by: Spudnuts at April 22, 2002 02:32 PMlarryb said: >> Oh man, I just turned 40 and with my second girl just born I have felt exactly the same way for a couple of months. See. Now it IS over at FORTY. I mean, who are we kidding here? Yeah. You're definitely done. No lie. I won't blow smoke up your ass. The good stuff is all behind you. Posted by: Spudnuts at April 22, 2002 02:34 PMI spelled weakness wrong twice. Dang. Hey Wil! You need to stop stealing my crises!! My own "rant" took on a vaguely different tone, but amounts to the same thing. I'm turning 25 in less than a month - and I find myself going through a "quarter life crisis" Seems our "moods" follow each other. I guess what I'm saying is - I know what you're feeling, and I thank you for sharing it with all of us. :-) Athena Posted by: Athena at April 22, 2002 02:40 PMI really appreciate everything that everyone has said here. It's strange: some of my friends have called me, and my mom, too, in tears, telling me that this really struck a chord in them. That's not what I was trying to do, really. I was just writing about what's on my mind. This is one of those entries that is going to get printed out for The Wife to read. :) Thank you to everyone who has commented, and shared their feelings both here, and in emails. :) And Happy Earth Day, Gaia. Posted by: wil at April 22, 2002 02:42 PMTurning 30 wasn't that bad for me. I'd been looking forward to it for a long time, actually, because 30 represented the big time to me, adulthood at last. My Dad would stop calling me "kiddo," I wouldn't get carded at the liquor store anymore, and my car would magically turn from an '88 Toyota to...anything made in the '90s. Didn't happen. I did finally buy a new car on my 31st birthday, but my Dad still calls me "Kiddo" and I do get carded a lot. (It's the curse of perpetually looking 19. Bet you can sympathize with that, can't you, Wil?) I turn 32 in 3 months. I'm pretty happy with my lot right now -- got a loving husband, a bright 3-year-old daughter, and a '98 Saturn. Can't complain. So don't stress about it, Wil. Sure, think about the past. But don't mourn it, celebrate it. And be present in your life, in these moments as they pass you by. Someday you'll look back on this, too, and wonder where it's gone. Posted by: Laura at April 22, 2002 02:54 PMI turned 31 in February. I have two children and a house. I have a dog and a car and my boy is potty learned. My husband has a great job. The last movie I went to was LoTR, and it was the first time in two years. I havn't been out to dinner since the children were born. The last time I was up past midnight was to clean up the toys and finally wash the kitchen floor. I hear ya, Wil. Posted by: Lady Sarah at April 22, 2002 03:01 PMDamn now you got me depressed and "hyper-nostaligic"(good word BTW) again!.. I think its one of those rites of passage. I turn 30 in 6months and have been thinking the very same things the last couple of months. I don't particularly want to go back to the hell that was High School, but 22-25 would be cool. Posted by: medic119 at April 22, 2002 03:09 PMWow. Makes me think much of my version of the same memories. I've not seen the inside of the house I grew up in since 1992, & the neighborhood treehouse was torn down in 1995. Balancing those carefree memories and the desire to trade them for all the troubles my ex- may commit isn't nearly as temping though. My best friend, the one with the tree house, still lives in that house in the basement with his parents. I'll take the responisiblity of adulthood, with all its consquences (good and bad), thank you. Posted by: bluevangogh at April 22, 2002 03:09 PMWHEW! I'm so glad I still feel/act like a kid.. with very little responsibility. Having only to worry about one's own well being does have it's plus side. I'll be 28 in June, and my life is actually looking better than my teenage years. Sure, there are parts of my "childhood" that i get totally nostalgic about, but I refuse to "grow up," so I don't see much as lost to me.
Shit Wil I know what you mean. I'll be turning 27 in one week from today. I feel a little different though. I mean I had such a crappy time growing up that I feel like things were supposed to be easier. I feel like I missed something. Like a break or something. So I guess I sorta had one year just to have fun. Actually only 6 months. April of my 21st year through October of my 21st year. No responsiblities. Just working a crappy job and partying with my friends. I could do whatever I wanted. I would go to my crappy job and just be Soooooooooo Happy. Everyday was a vacation for me. The birds were singing, the sky was blue. But then I started to feel like I was wasteing my life. So I left my low responsibility job quite hanging around the people I partyed with. (They really were bad influences, very bad.) And I got an Adult Job. An Adult Apartment. I started chasing a dream of happiness that wasn't really mine. Now I'm chasing another dream. One that will permit me to be free from this life. I have no kids and never will. That's one less thing for me to deal with. Finacial Freedom. I hope that permits me the time to breath, before my youth is all gone. 3 years to 30. Gahhhh. When the Hell did that happen? Life is what passes you by when you're not looking. Maybe I'll just stop and look around a bit. I think you're my male version of me. I'll be 30 next month. I hear after 30 is better anyway. You've gone through all the bullshit searching and doubts of the 20's and are finally comfortable enough with yourself to just be. Posted by: glittergirl at April 22, 2002 03:25 PMI turn 30 in four months, and it hits me at weird times. I was reminiscing with my older brother the other day, and we were recalling bad 80s tv shows ("That's Incredible" being at the forefront). Eek, just had another flashback. Posted by: Bill at April 22, 2002 03:38 PMYea, the 80's were pretty kickin' here too. Running through the woods, not caring about anything or worrying about the smallest thing. As long as we can hold on to those good memories.. then I think we always bring our childhood along with us. It's harder to find.. but it is there. Posted by: RavenBlue at April 22, 2002 03:40 PM"So when I saw this commercial last night, it hit me: I'm turning 30 in 3 months." RENEW! RENEW! RENEW! :-) Posted by: Grimmtooth at April 22, 2002 03:48 PMDamn. It's posts like this that make me really love your blog, man. Now I'm all, Mr. Sensitive-like and shit. *snif* Thanks a lot, ya fucker. I'm right there with you, Wil. You know how you said that when you had it good that you were to arrogant or whatever to know better. I wish that I could have been a little more arrogant and not cared a FUCK what the "cool kids" thought of a geek girl like me. I could have had so much more fun instead of sitting arround moping that I didn't have the "right" kind of clothes to wear. Hey, all you 30 year old "cool kids" -you can kiss my ASS!! Posted by: Elkay at April 22, 2002 03:59 PMI competely understand where you are coming from. I am 23 years old but looking at my students at school and listening to them I feel the same way. they think not having the newest flip flops is a crises and I am worried about saving rent money. grr getting older is hard. I can't imagine what having kids that age is like. good luck :) Posted by: jadis at April 22, 2002 04:04 PMGod, Wil, way to depress us. I suddenly desperately miss the 80's now, too, and I was only 7. Posted by: Leslie at April 22, 2002 04:17 PMwow and i thought i was depressed this past weekend. We went to see my college friends and realized wow we have changed. We only graduated three years ago. I felt sad cause not all my friends were there. Things changed really quick. I found myself wishing it was the fall of 97 when I was a junior in college. It was then I met the best of friends or so it seemed. Things changed we all went our seperate ways and I felt like balling. We decided we had to visit more and I said what I always wanted to say. It was touching. I felt odd reading this and actually finding out that you was practically thinking about similar aspects. I guess I just wanted to say wow things change. Posted by: Patricia at April 22, 2002 04:25 PMWow.... you saw that advertisement too, huh? I am not quite 30 yet, but approaching fast (just turned 29 this month!). I have been "hyper nostalgic" (great term by the way) off and on for the past year and can completely relate to how you feel. Only now , not so much. Too much to look forward to! The past was fun, but I like it right where it is... Posted by: SaidtheGirl at April 22, 2002 04:27 PMBoy, Wil, your post today reall struck home for me. I'm turning 30 in 5 months (ha ha! I'm younger than you) and am alternating by being very happy where I am at in life right now and missing my younger youth so damn much it hurts. Thanks for reminding me that I'm not the only one. Posted by: Lauri at April 22, 2002 04:42 PMTrue story, though I don't remember the names or the exact quotes. A 60 year old woman was starting out on a completely new life project. She asked her 80 year old friend whether it was foolish for her to start something completely new at her age. The 80 year old said you're asking the wrong person. She continued: I'm 20 years older than you and I'm starting something new myself, something I've never tried before and you my dear are just a baby. So at almost twenty-nine...knowing that there is an 80 year old that regards a 60 year old as a "just a baby"; it makes me smile and worry a little less about the time going by so quickly. A lot has past, but there is also much more to come. Hope this brings you a smile as well. Wil, I couldn't have put that any better than you. The 80's were a great time not because of anything historic, but because it was our youth. There has been many a time when I think back to how carefree those days were hanging out with my friends and my biggest worry was what we were going to do tonight. I so miss those times. I so miss those people. But time has changed everything and though I still keep in touch with some of those people, many more are lost because of the different paths we all chose. But I also have things to look forward to. I've been married to a great woman now for almost 7 years and have a beautiful 2 year old daughter that I can't wait to share more of myself with as she gets older. If only there was someway to take what I have now and combine it with the feeling of youth. I would be the happiest person in the world, especially if I didn't have to worry about paying the bills! Posted by: Jon (from Detroit) at April 22, 2002 04:52 PMWill, You are such an awesome writer, I hope you realize that! I love reading your blog. You are NOT old, but I do understand your feelings. I am turning 40 in September, and I am definitely feeling it. I can't deny that I don't enjoy the sound of it. I've been trying to figure out what it is about it that I don't like. I guess it's just a societal image that somehow has stuck in my head. And then I think, when I'm 60 I'm sure I'll wish I was 40. So just enjoy it now, and don't worry about the past. Cherish it and make the most of NOW cause that's all we have. 'nuff said...and I still love "The Buddy System". Denise Posted by: Denise at April 22, 2002 04:53 PMOh and I almost forgot-the Danny Elfman score from Batman is awesome! But then again, most everything Elfman does is! Posted by: Jon (from Detroit) at April 22, 2002 05:01 PMWill, today's my birthday. I'm turning 17. So many times in the past few years of my life, I've looked back on my life, and wondered about how easy things were, and how hard they'd appeared at the time. I'm glad that I've realized that as tough as life is now, some things will be harder. But others will be easier. And growing up doesn't always mean getting old and out-of-date. It just means learning more. Everything happens at the time it's supposed to happen. And I realize that as a 17-year-old I don't exactly have the greatest experience in the world, but I believe I'm right here. And besides, wouldn't you rather see your step-sons become teenagers while you're 30 and still have hopes of being cool, rather than 40 and 'old,' or younger and unprepared? I get these feelings from time to time and I'm only 19! I'm turning 20 soon and I'm glad to know that doesn't mean I won't be a kid anymore. I can't stand the thought of growing up. I have nostalgic feelings all the time, I guess that explains the tv theme songs on my computer. But then again, I had the same don't-wanna-grow-up feelings at 10, so that's life. Hang in there Wil. I have to move out of residence this week as the school yeah is over, and I'm having that feeling in heaps. My first year is over. Where did it go? Sometimes we could slow down life, just a little bit, wouldn't that be nice. My oldest brother is eight years older than I am. When I turned 30 (badly; I was working a horrific job at the time), he told me that your 30s are the best time, and he was right. You're old enough to know more of who you are, but young enough to have fun with it. He was absolutely right. You will hate turning 30, and you will LOVE it after that. Posted by: Janis Cortese at April 22, 2002 05:10 PMUhm, I didn't read all the comments, hell you probably won't read this considering all the great lovin' advice here, but uhm... I was a strange kid. I mean heck, I wanted to grow up fast like any of them, but I had so many adults saying "You're young, kid, enjoy it!" that it became old very fast (pardon the awful pun there). I did enjoy my childhood when I could, but I remember a lot I didn't like about it. For me, childhood wasn't sunshine and lollipops. I argued a lot with my parents, I had a hard time at school because I wasn't very popular, and I only really started getting friends in my early teens. I guess what I'm trying to say is, you did the best you could during that time, all of us do. Life isn't over though, once you reach a certain age. I mean, what do you think this is - Star Trek or something? You think you're an eskimo? "Anne... get the sleigh and the dogs... I'm ready for them polar bears." I've felt nostalgia plenty of times, but I stop and think... hang on. When I was having so much 'fun' back then, I didn't have my beautiful neices and nephews. They weren't around. My family was smaller by about ten people. I *love* those people. Shit, careers and mortgages make life harder for you, but your life is enriched so much because hey - you are a much better person now than you used to be. I'm not saying you were an asshole when you were a kid - don't take that the wrong way. I'm saying that when we're younger we're only a portion of the person we grow up to be. Life is to be savoured, every little second. Sorry, I'm ranting. Message in short: Feel good about the past, cause it's the only youth you've got and a lot of other people had worse (trust me). Good shit in front of you now. Look forward to it. Mucho happy life if you choose to savour it. Advice from blog comment listings are like fortune-cookies - fun for a little while but you soon forget it when it comes to the crunch. So read often and with fresh-baked cookies. Posted by: Nancy at April 22, 2002 05:24 PMWell said Bo. Posted by: ymous_annon at April 22, 2002 05:36 PMHey all. Let me tell you its AWESOME. I don't even have a mortgage payment.. I live in an apartment and do whatever i want when i want. I think around 30 I may get depressed enough to get married but until then I feel your pain. I miss the innocence of not knowing what you are gonna do when you are a kid. I grew up collecting comics watching sci fi and having fun til there was no tomorrow. Soon I will be where you are minus the wife and kids but it's cool to know big willie is along with me.. AND HEY THE PRINCE BATMAN SOUNDTRACK OWNED!! "PArty Man" ruled n stuff :( good times noodle salad Posted by: hops at April 22, 2002 05:36 PMAs a child of the 80s who is going to turn 30 this year, I can understand the weight of responsibilities of adulthood. But, don't worry... you'll make a big movie and you'll make millions. Then Drew Barrymore will try to seduce you and you'll just be like, get the hell away from me. You'll have a mansion an life will be grand. Or, maybe you will find happiness is in making life simple. I find the older I get the more I enjoy reading philosophical texts on Taoism. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Good luck and keep on writing. -BlueEgret Posted by: BlueEgret at April 22, 2002 05:45 PMI've got 23 days before I get to legally drink the alkeeholl, and now I feel old. Granted, that ain't got NUTHIN on all of you older people. You guys got to see Jaws in the theater and crap. Me? I gotta deal with Britney Spears being called the epitome of hot-chick-hood. You wanna know how frustrating it is to have some younger ho being all famous and quoted and shit? It's enough to make me feel like I'm wasting my fucking time. I can only hope I grow up to be as jaded and cynical as Spudnuts, only not quite as male. So, yeah, Wil? and all the rest of you? You ain't old. My grandma got her first speeding ticket a couple years ago. She just turned 89. So there is a future, so long as it's as an old lady who drives like a maniac. Eat THAT, Spudnuts. Actually, don't. The mental image of you doing that to my grammy... eewww. I'm going now. Posted by: KJB at April 22, 2002 06:05 PMWil, thanks for posting that. A few weeks ago the Sunday edition of the LA Times ran an 80's theme in the magazine section and I just kept reading it over and over. Felt that same sense of loss, cept for me it was growing up in Bethesda Maryland with my friends riding our BMX bikes everywhere. Spike Jonz was even in our crew. (Rockville BMX will live forever in memory) Senior year in high school, freshman year in college, man I couldn't wait to put it all behind me and now I think I'd give a lot to go back for a few weeks. Listening to Depeche Mode, Simply Red, Fine Young Cannibals, and quite a few other bands I'd rather not admit listening to BUT they were from my era man. Then there are all those 80's teen movies. Ferris, Weird Science, Breakfast Club....ahh, where did it go and where are we going? Posted by: Kman at April 22, 2002 06:06 PMWil, I’m 35, and have reflected on my life’s great regrets for five years now. This is what I’ve learned: If I had known then what I know now… I’d be living right now with a past filled with different regrets. Perhaps I wouldn’t be living at all. To have regrets is to wish for events to have been different, diminishing the value we place on learning from those failures. I’m not so certain that success teaches us the value of what we have as much as failure does. A past failure still perceived as a failure, may lead to a success which otherwise would not have occurred. My great regrets: 1. Not being more social in High School I think that my first two regrets are silly. I actually largely avoided getting caught up in a lot of frivolity. It hurt at the time, but I probably avoided even more pain. My next two regrets are more complex. I think I wasn’t ready for university at the time, and I still have many more years to get additional higher education. As for not leveraging my education, I think that I am, just not directly. In many ways I learned what I didn’t want to do. As for not choosing an IT career sooner – well, bad choice. Then again, it is likely that had I done so, I wouldn’t have been living in the town where I met my wife. And my children, Natasha and Alexander, would never have existed. As for the car accident, I deeply regret my friend passing away, and no amount of learning from the experience can justify her death. But I learned a lot about the value of life and of my own character. I still think about her daily, and try hard to be a better person than I think I otherwise would have been. In summary, forward is the way we move through time, and is the direction we should all look to. Posted by: mark Francis at April 22, 2002 06:31 PMIm turning 23 years old tomorrow. :o/ Posted by: mcfoo at April 22, 2002 06:34 PMHey Wil: So is time a predator, that stalks us all our lives? Or is time a companion that joins us on the journey, reminding us to cherish every moment because it will never come again? See, Star Trek movies, even the bad ones, can teach us something. Anyway. My high school reunion is in three months. I wasn't all that fond of high school, and I have managed to forget a good percentage of the people in my class. For some reason, I've prided myself on that; that I've been able to shove aside the unpleasant people and memories and get on with life. Last month, I encountered an old high school chum at the mall. Not a dear friend, but a friend, and someone I remembered fondly. He had no idea who I was. Here I was, thinking I was all superior for shoving aside the past, ready to go to my reunion and play the "Who are you, again?" card with everybody. And someone goes and beats me to it. Part of growing older means accepting that you aren't the center of the universe. That's not directed specifically at anyone here; it's just an observation. Man, that's a tough one. Posted by: TJS at April 22, 2002 06:44 PMWil, I sympathize. *wipes a tear* I was just thinking about that the other day. I'm 20 and sometimes I feel that way. What I wouldn't give to go back to primary colors and pigtails, playing with the boy next door and watching the sun set with him... And never having to worry about anything more serious than a flat bicycle wheel. Instead of my freaking CAR dying this week. Oy vey... But hey, you seem to have turned out all right. There's hope for the rest of us. We just have to keep childhood in perspective. Your writing is beautiful, by the way. Thank you for sharing your gift with us. Posted by: Danielle at April 22, 2002 07:01 PMI love Danny Elfman! I love his Batman score! I love Depeche Mode. I love Black Celebration! I was just saying the other day how it was my favorite album. You rock! 80's music is just too good, I wish it was still "cool" to say that you liked it.... But the funny thing is...I'm only 20, not 30... ACK!! THTTHBTTHTTHBTH!!! TJS, Generations was the BEST Star Trek film!!!! Blasphemer! Posted by: TURTLES11 at April 22, 2002 07:24 PMI'll be 30 in four months, but I'm looking forward to it. I don't know how it happened, but just this year I finally lost my angst! You know, the 20's "angst", which I used to have a bad case of: what am i going to do with my life, crazy relationships, what job is right for me..etc. I don't really know what has actually changed this year, but it's like I settled into my skin and feel "this is me, ahhhh". And I'm going to have one rockin' birthday party! Posted by: shauna at April 22, 2002 07:27 PMTry being 35 un-married, no kids and still wondering when life is going to "begin". The 80's... What a time capsule. The 80's - it seems more like "a place" than "a time", you know? Like there's a wrong turn you can make in some old video store and come out of a mall surrounded by more "big hair" than you care to think about. You've made me want to dig out "Good For Your Soul", however... Posted by: Jeffrey Schrab at April 22, 2002 07:31 PMVery moving. I read the majority of comments here and laughed and sharedd, " What helps me in times of mourning over days past is that I lived in a country that allowed me to have Ferris is 40? SOAB! Posted by: Yellow Chipmunk at April 22, 2002 07:31 PMYa know...I think I saw that same commercial...I actually bought the fucking thing though. So very very sad. Anyway, I will hit the big Three Oh this sunday and I think I've finally come to grips with it. I have three great kids, a wonderful wife, two cats and a bunny. It's not so bad really...(sob) Oh how I miss 15. Posted by: Patrick at April 22, 2002 07:55 PMIn four months I turn 41. I survived turning 30 -- it wasn't nearly as bad as everyone made me think -- and I survived turning 40. The only bad thing about that was the gray hair. I've survived raising a teenager. That wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be, either. It was interesting, watching those stages unfold right before me, knowing that the snotty 13 year old was going to turn into an eyerolling 14 year old, an impatient 15 year old, and then gradually turn into an adult. And at 19, he's there. Fully grown up, and I still have (I hope) a lot of my own life left to have FUN. When you let STUFF bring you down (and it really is all just STUFF) it makes geting older more difficult. You look back and wish for the things you had as a kid. But let me tell you, when you're looking straight ahead, there's *alot* of fun out there waiting. Posted by: Thumper at April 22, 2002 08:05 PMDUDE, you so totally summed it up man. Im like turning 30 in a month and all i seem to be thinking about these last few months has been the 80's and the fun times i had, roleplaying and cruisen the streets in my hot V8 car with my mates. "That Prince monstrosity"? "That Prince monstrosity"? Wil, We need to talk. Surely you can't be seriously expecting me to believe that TV's WIL WHEATON is incapable of understanding the majesty of Prince's pre-stupid-name-change, pre-scrawling-grafitti-about-"how-my-record-company-is-a-bunch-of-mean-men"-on-his cheek masterpiece? See, in the filmclip to Batdance (Bat-daaaaaaance) - and before you say "Batman doesn't dance", let me remind you of a certain episode where Burt Ward got left in the Batmobile while Batman went into a licenced venue and proceeded to strut his caped crusader stuff on the dancefloor with some mighty fine go-go girls who, if I remember correctly, turned out to be someone's henchmen - or henchwomen - or henchpeople - in that filmclip, the tiny purple GENIUS is dressed as both The Joker AND The Batman, thereby acknowledging that they both - Jokesy and Batsy - are two sides of the same twisted coin. Pretty astute observations, there, the kind of weighty psychological observations about the nature of revenge and the fine line between heroism and villainty that never even SURFACED on Danny Elfman's "ooh look at me I'm a John Williams wannabe and Tim Burton is my BUDDY" soundtrack The Batusi. Remember, Wil? I'd love to see you try to batusi to Elfman's score. You can't. So don't try. Even though I said I'd like to see it. Because I wouldn't, really. But PRINCE? Oh, there's a whole lot of batusi goin' on there. Bet your cowl on it. Posted by: matsya at April 22, 2002 08:09 PMHo-ly shit! You're doing this when your 30?! I must've gotten a very early start on this stuff. I'm only 20 and I've been thinking like this for quite a while now. I always wanted to believe that it got better when you got older. **Are you telling me it gets worse???** I feel like I'm frittering away my time and not getting anywhere. Eveyone tells me, "My God Kris! You're only 20, you have your whole life ahread of you!" I can only think that I've already blown 20 years and I'm scared of where I'm going from here. IT GETS WORSE?? If I can't deal with it now, how the hell am I gonna' deal with it at 30, or 50??? Well, thanks for giving me another night's worth of insomnia inducing mental turmoil. Posted by: MacManKrisK at April 22, 2002 08:20 PMHaha. I think Wil's wife's ex-husband is the only person who could genuinley say that he hates wesley crusher. Posted by: The real wil shady at April 22, 2002 08:22 PMOk.. I'm gonna repeat what has already been said, but I need to say it. Damn Wil.. You hit the nail on the head. I feel like that evry now and again too. My best friend, who I've known since 3rd grade is gonna be setteling down pretty soon too. I remember the nigts of hanging out at my friend Matt's house, with the guys. Dialing up the BBSes and trolling. Or sitting in Matt's back room and listening to records or just talking about stupid shit. It's always good to know that there is someone else that is going through the same things I go through too. Ok.. time to fire up some 80's MP3s... Ack, I turn 28 in 5 days and dang if I knew what I was supposed to do with my life. And with people now having families and mortgages, I keep thinking hey! When did we become adults? Posted by: Nico at April 22, 2002 08:45 PMWil, I'm just loving my thirties. They are the best. Don't sweat it, and don't worry about it. Back then in your teen years, though you are nostalgic now, you didn't know how good you had it, did you? Well, same thing applies in your thirties, but you just know how to recognize it better and be thankful for it. Instead of being scared, be excited at what is to come and that you are older and wiser to experience it more fully. Anne Posted by: Anne at April 22, 2002 08:51 PMWow! That is EXACTLY like how I feel. I know that is almost the same comment everyone else has, too. I am turning 30 in like 61 hours (officially, 10:17 am, 4/25) and for the past few days (maybe even weeks) I have been in the wierdest funk. I just keep remembering all that is to remember and realizing, no matter how much I think about it, I can *never* go back and "re-live" it. It just makes me really sad. I know that "the best years are still ahead" and all of that bullshit, but it still doesn't change exactly how I feel, here and now, getting ready to leave my twenties and enter my thirties. And, I know it's also not the end of the world, but, like it or not, I'm probably a little more than finished with a 1/3 of my life, which means I've only got another 2/3's left...if I'm lucky. So, I know how you feel, and I share your pain, Will. Posted by: Cassie at April 22, 2002 08:53 PMThat's so sad... I'm 16 and I've been going off on tangents recently about SATs and AP tests and how i should be savoring my youth while it's here, but wow. That just sums up what I worry about. I worry that I'll graduate college, end up sitting in some cubical and wishing I had gone out with my friends more, made more memories. Dang, they tell us to grow up and take it, but this is nuts. We're only teenagers for so long. I will do great things, I'm sure of it, but for now dammit I am going to be a kid! Posted by: Indy at April 22, 2002 08:59 PMhrmf. gonna be 33 next year. Life is good anyway, i guess. Posted by: pril at April 22, 2002 09:00 PMOh, by the way...I want to apologize...I *know* it's W-I-L, not W-I-L-L (like I typed)...sorry :-) Posted by: Cassie at April 22, 2002 09:00 PMWil, I turned 49 this February and have 4 kids from this second marriage: 13, 11, 8 and 4. I gave up a career as a trial attorney to raise em and to help my OB/Gyn husband. We've had about 4 moves in the last six years, hoping that each one would be our last. You just have to endure, sometimes, hon. The fact that you have a great wife and stepkids should help in that fact. And, all the posts here seem to say that you are loved and supported in your journey. We all feel, sometimes, that our best years are behind us. But, you know, I really think the "old geezers" like myself who have posted have hit on it: it really does get better: different, to be sure! but better. Hang in there! Karen Posted by: Kazfeist at April 22, 2002 09:17 PMYou are born, you listen to a lot of music, and then you die. It's realy not that complicated. Posted by: Fred Fowler at April 22, 2002 09:36 PMLet me first apologize for the length of this post! Then, allow me to apologize for the apparent jab at Sweet Uncle Sparks! ;-) I'll be 29 this coming January. I am not married ... nor do I hold much hope of ever being married ... I've been dating the same woman since I was 21, and, in a situation typical in my life, SHE'S the one skittish about marriage. If I'd had half the chance, I would've married her years ago. She's afraid of change, though, and all she says of marriage is "I want a wedding, but I don't want to be married." About children? I don't expect them ...I've looked forward to them, though. She'll move in with me ... after she's lived on her own for a while. Well, really, after she's moved in with a *male* friend at work, and THEN moved out on her own .... Don't worry about him being a guy, she tells me --She doesn't want him and he doesn't want her. What I'm telling her is that I understand the not wanting each other part... what I'm worried about is being WELLL into my 30s before we go to the next level (assuming I'm going to be able to hold out 'til next week.) Enough of that, though. I had an OK childhood... I was never in a major motion picture or anything >;-) Lucas Young - You are most certainly right, Pink Floyd put it very well. I was just thinking that the Alan Parsons said it well, too, on I Robot; Day after Day. Gaze at the sky And picture a memory Remember your daddy When no one was wiser Think of a boy with the stars in his eye But day after day The show must go on With nothing to say And no one to say it to Think of a boy with the stars in his eye But, day after day The show must go on With time on your side
Wil, music absolutely drags up old emotions and memories. The only way I can keep track of what happened when in high school and college is by the songs I was listening to then. I've never seen Pink Floyd quoted so much before. You know what my sister's theme song is? We all have theme songs - mine is WonderWoman - and don't you FORGET it! Anyways - her is No Regrets, by the great Edith Piaf. You remember that song, you play it. You go to babelfish and translate them wordies. "No, I do not regret anything." The rest is kinda garbled but the important message is there. Posted by: Nancy at April 22, 2002 09:51 PMThanks Wil, It's cool that someone like you can relate on this level. I remember a buddy of mine who had batman logos on the sides of his car back in the early nineties when that movie came out... and one or both of us catching a STTNG episode and calling each other about it to say how cool it was. A lot has changed since then and I don't see those guys as much anymore but thanks for bringing that back. Wil very good topic, man,I turn 30 july 6 this year and I've been freaking out for the past year. It was like when I was 25 you know your saying I'm in my mid-20's, 28 still close to mid-20's but 29 that's it!! 30 is coming quickly and you start looking around and thinking what have I done. you start seeing The Real World 10 and it's like oh fuck!! Posted by: billybale at April 22, 2002 11:05 PMHey I highly recommend going to the Inner Child thread in Everything else. I feel better everytime I go there. I am 26 and my hubby is 28. Yep aging plays weird and sad tricks on a person's brain sometimes. Posted by: Artisticspirit at April 22, 2002 11:42 PMTurning 30? Whatever... after 30 it's all the same, it isn't some magic barrier or anything. Self examination is ok, but don't kill yourself with it, you've been to Topeka for gawds' sake, you know how bad it can get. Posted by: Tenebrae at April 23, 2002 12:04 AMI to miss the late 80's and early 90's. Granted I'll only be turning 18 in four months but reading what you said makes me think about the past, AGAIN! lol Just be glad you aren't a woman! It all goes south about the time you turn 30! If you didn't before, you suddenly discover gray is a color that you will have to live with in some way or another, either in your hair that everyone can see or in the hair that only YOU see! It sucks! At least men get to grow old gracefully! And be glad that you have such a great metabolism! And that you don't have to bear children. Those two things together take their toll on your body. Men still have it up on women with the effects of aging. But the number 30 is cause for self reflection. You do start to look back and notice how much things have changed. If your parents are still around, you kind of notice that they are getting older too. That sucks major! But there are things to be grateful for.....you're alive and not a boozer or heroin addict!.............It was great seeing your young little face in the Sacramento Bee. Makes me wonder where all those years went! taz Posted by: Taz at April 23, 2002 12:27 AMDanny Elfman/Oingo Boingo totally rocks. You rule a thousandfold for liking such great 80s music. (Of course, you ruled before that, but still.) Posted by: Noelle at April 23, 2002 12:30 AMWow reading this makes me glad that we don't have time travel. Imagine how many people would go back and try to relive the 80's. You would probably go and tell the younger you to really enjoy what you had, but do you really think you would listen? No. I am not quite 20 yet and am trying to enjoy what I have. I have read all this before and it is making me wonder "Am I going to be this way when I'm 30, 40?" The answer is "Probably". Oh well, until then I'm going to try and enjoy what you all wish you still had, ha ha ha (Just kidding). Posted by: Hal97 at April 23, 2002 12:38 AM30 years old and talking about wasted youth.. I like to think of myself as very young, but I see it's just an illusion ;o] Posted by: Nico at April 23, 2002 12:51 AMCripes, so -thats- what that overwhelming sense of creeping doom is that's been keeping me up o'nights. I was wunnerin' about that. *sigh* And now I wonder what I'll be missing 10 years from now, which, relativisticly speaking, should roll around in just about the time it takes me to hit the post button. Dang Unka Willy. I dont know whether to thank you for this trip down memory lane or send you my therapy bill. Or, as Paul Simon put it: I am older than I once was No, it isn't strange Hoo. I may not have a mortgage, and I may only be 25, but I do, in a way, understand. When I was 12, I loved the--cringe--New Kids on the Block, I wanted to be a cheerleader, and I thought my parents would be married forever. I never imagined I would be up to my ears in credit card debt, stranded in self-imposed exile in the great frozen Midwest, having a conversation with my long-estranged father via AIM about why I thought it was sensible of me to be unmarried and childless at 25. All of this hit me the other day along with the realization that I am in a long-term relationship with someone who will be 30 next year. I remember my PARENTS turning 30, it seems bizarre to be dating someone who will be 30 soon when I can still quite clearly recall their entry into their thirties. I thought of ALL of this and came to this conclusion: hoo, boy, I am getting old and I haven't done a blasted thing. Since I turned 25 a few months ago I have been laboring under the delusion that my life is almost over and I have really messed it up. I thought I wanted to go back to my youth and start over; everything seemed so hopeful then and I am so jaded and bitter now. But thinking of all those things the other day, and then thinking, "wow, I'm old and I have wasted it all," well, suddenly I realized 25 and 30 years old...we're still kids ourselves, man. You may have a mortgage and pre-teens, and I may be careerless and unmarried but in the grand scheme of things, we are nowhere near old, and quite possibly we may not even REALLY be adults yet, at least I don't feel like one. 30 is a number and in the grand scheme of things a small one. Come on, Wil, you still play video games! You play dodgeball! Your youth isn't wasted any more than mine is because we're still IN our youths. It will all be okay once you wrap your head around it. 25 and 30 aren't the ages they were when our parents turned them; the possibilities are stretching ahead of us. Let's relax and enjoy it, mortgages, credit card debts and all. Posted by: belle at April 23, 2002 01:58 AMAround about now any 30-ish Boingo fans in need of a weepy nostalgic fix should listen to "Stay", the album version, really loud, preferably off vinyl. I turned 30 recently. It's not so much a sense of loss or age that hits you, but the sense of disorientation. See, the fact is you reach a point in your adult life, usually the first time around now, where you realise that somewhere deep down there's a part of you that hasn't noticed the passing of time. That the first time you heard Weird Al do Hey Joe polka-style wasn't yesterday, it was a lifetime ago. But it *was* yesterday, wasn't it? Posted by: ginch at April 23, 2002 03:42 AMI have been your fan now for 16 years and the fact that you have your own site and you maintain it, pretty much kicks ass. I will be 27 this year and like you; mortgage to pay and responsibilities to take care of (being single does not mean less responsibility!!), but even though I miss my youth (I sound like my gran!) I am happy to be older, achieving my goals, and realising my dreams. Look at where you are and what you have achieved, for it is just the beginning! "People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." The Byrds said: "Aw, but I was so much older then; I'm younger than that now." There is a country song out now..(Yeah..moans) Really...nuff said. Posted by: bluecat/redblanket at April 23, 2002 05:27 AMYou guys MISS all that 80s crud? You don't have to. You got the Internet. That's where 80s crud goes when everyone else is finished with it. All crud. All 80s. All the time. So give your nostalgia a miss, yeah? Posted by: matsya at April 23, 2002 05:49 AMI was asked about turning 30, after it happened in 2000. Sure I was a little freaked when it happened, but I'm much happier now at 31 than I was at 29. At 30, you finally begin to forgive yourself for all the foolish things you did in your teens and 20s. Sure the nostalgiac sadness creeps up on you, but it's countered by the fact that you can give yourself a lot more credit for the things you are good at. At 30 you begin to realize a few limitations and can allow yourself to be bad at a few things. Allowing yourself to suck at a selected few things is a huge load off. Me? I picked being bad at packing weirdly shaped objects (like action figures) into boxes. I accepted that I never was nor will be a tetris-god. Other hand, I realized I'm very good at my job and I quit being my own worst critic. Another key at 30: remember what Robert Heinlein wrote, "The key to happiness? Get enough sleep." You need Ultraman! I have the first 4 episodes and the last 4 episodes on VHS. Nothing will put your passing youth in perspective like some hardcore, chinese made, campy as all hell, episodes of the ORIGINAL Ultraman. Let me know if you'd like a copy and I'll get one off to you. I've been 31 for almost a year now, and with that last Blog of yours, you poured my heart out. UGH! :O) Posted by: Doug at April 23, 2002 06:22 AMI do the laying awake thing all the time. I used to get in moods like that all the time. Eat some chocolate. You're stressed. You need to get some rest and relax a little. I used to laugh at alot of things that make me cry now. Its probably a chemical imbalance. Go to the store and find Godiva Belgian Dark Chocolate ice cream. It'll help. :-) Will, looking back on our "halcyon days" is one of our most guilty pleasures. But it aint true. It was never "better", you just forgot the bad stuff...like the widow who's dead husband is only remembered as a kind man. It's called the Halo Effect. We forget our bad times and see the good times through a haze clouded by dreams. Everyone ages. EVERYONE. It's a critical part of life and without it we couldn't exist....in fact, you could say that the march of time (and the March of Dimes I imagine) is what allows us to enjoy life. I think the reason we dread getting older is because we havent lived up to some incorrect assumption of who we THOUGHT we should be. Hell, your career was pretty much my goal years ago. Do I bemoan the fact that I have not been on Star Trek yet? even as a Red Shirt? No! I've done great things in my 30 years. I dont regret one. I died two years ago and was given another chance by whatever forces in this universe you believe in. I dont rush around hurrying to do more or worrying about wasting time. At 30, I'm better at living than I ever was. Now, I relax, enjoy growing old, have fun being who I thought I'd never be. And never letting the child inside die. 30 is no biggy Wil. You wont feel different. And it will only hurt when the cute girls at the mall call you "sir". That always smarts. Posted by: Sean at April 23, 2002 06:27 AMToday I am 37 (happy birthday to me!). Of course it varies with environment and situation, but the 30's have been the best years of my life. I do like to reminisce about childhood--most of it, some parts I was glad to escape. There's nothing wrong with a little melancholy now and then, but chin up, Wil, you've got worlds of good times and memories ahead of you. Posted by: Mark E at April 23, 2002 07:15 AMdon't you see now how important stand by me was?!?! Posted by: joe at April 23, 2002 07:21 AMAwww, that made me cry. Posted by: Anastasia at April 23, 2002 07:34 AMuncle willie, you can still kick it with the young dudes. hehe. i'm barely 18 and i'm coming to realise that i can still get up early and watch cartoons if i want, or have bowl after bowl of ice cream in pizza hut, but i can also go out and get trashed (ah, the beauties of living in england) and dance all night too. getting older affords us the freedom to fulfill dreams long forgotten. this is making me want to go outside and roll down the hill with bunches in my hair, so i think i will. spread the love, all over your bad self ;) sherlock Posted by: sherlock at April 23, 2002 07:37 AMI just turned 39...I was having the usual "tremors" but then someone said "it could be worse" and suddenly it was. My husband of 15 yrs (turned 40 in October) left me for a 30 year old women he works with. Enjoy what you have Wil. Wil, Welcome to the big 30! I had the same problem as you when I was getting ready to turn 30. But it was somewhat different. When I was younger, I pictured myself in the place you are now (married, living in a house with 2.3 kids, a pet of somekind, etc.), but instead I was single, living in an apartment, barely making ends meet, and going to college. Yeah, college at age 30. It was nothing like what I thought my life would be. It was very depressing and the more I thought about turning 30 and where my life WAS NOT, the more depressed I became about it. There is something about being 20-something and thinking that you are going to be 30-something. It seems like your youthfulness disappears at that point, but guess what ... it doesn't. After I turned 30, I still felt like I did before I became a 30-something person. Nothing changed. It is a fear about a time that you think there is going to be a big change in your life, but it really doesn't exist. A misplaced fear. Also, when I moved back to Indiana from Texas, the first place I went was to my parents house. I was there for 4 days and remembered a lot of things from my childhood. I was even living in the same room that I grew up in and I had a very strong feeling that this was no longer my home. I felt more like a visitor in a place that used to be mine. After 4 days, I moved in with a friend instead. I couldn't stand that feeling for long. It is amazing that as we go through life we call many places home, but those places that used to be home, that used to be our comfort zones, are no longer that. They are places that hold ghosts of the past, and do not hold that confort zone any longer. Hang in there Wil. You'll understand shortly. 30 will come and go and you will look back a couple of months after that and say to yourself, "Boy, that was pretty stupid for me to worry about that damn birthday." I know I sure did. Patrick Posted by: widget at April 23, 2002 07:55 AMWow Wil, you should collect these comments and put out a book called "Blogging for the 30's Soul" or something. Seriously your post seems to have touched a lot of us (even those in other age groups) and prompted us to share some of our own stories. In my opinion things like this are part of the WWDN magic. Thanks for posting and thanks everyone else for opening up and sharing a piece of yourselves with the rest of us. Posted by: Gaea at April 23, 2002 07:58 AMI know what you mean completely. Only, the weird thing is, is that I feel that way when and I am so much (okay, not SO much) younger. I remember my glory days of the late 80s and early 90s when all I had to care about was saturday morning cartoons and New Kids on the Block (Oh, shut up! I was 8 in '89! That's reasonable, isn't it? It wasn't until later that I developed a wider taste of eighties music. Depeche Mode and REM forever!). I'm only 20 and even *I* feel that youth has passed me by, so don't feel bad, Wil... I don't think youth has left you behind. You just have a different kind of youth -- one that revolves around PhotoShop pictures of you and being the coolest Star Trek geek ever! ;o) The problem isn't the "hyper-nostalgia" for a few minutes-- it's getting caught up in it for a long time. Like, I have a scrapbook that I made of my high school theatre days. It's been some three years since I was in high school, but I often look at it and feel the same intense loss and sadness deep in my heart... and I have to stop. None of us can get caught up in our glory days gone by.... because you have so many glory days ahead. :o) See, who the hell needs counseling when you have a website and fans like us to empathize and relate? You owe us money. Pay up, geek boy. ;o) peace, love, and big 80s hair! Someone who I admire said something to this effect: "I will be always grateful to my grandparents who taught me that no matter how the days gone by were, the good 'ol days are still yet to come." Posted by: S. Stewart at April 23, 2002 08:26 AMWhen I was a child I spoke as a child And ANOTHER thing - you put in that MST3K episode "Space Mutiny" on, you watch that fucker and you tell me again that you miss the 80s dude. Come oooon! :P Anyone that tells me that they miss the 80s after that freakin' monstrosity needs to sit their ass down and tell me when their extra-cool X-Box was invented, and what they were forced to do for kicks before all the really cool 3-D game engines were thought up. Say it with me now people: PONG. Bip - biddee -beep pong. It wasn't till the last half of the freakin' 80s that they even MANAGED to put Wolfenstein together. Shooting germans man - you can't beat shooting germans. The really cool thing is, you wanna relive that shit all you have to do is warm up your old emulator and bip - biddee - beep pong - it's happening again. Yay. And the BEST freakin' thing about the 80s is that it ended man! No more big hair, no more bad make-up, no more horrid cotton prints and NO MORE STILLETO HEELS! The day platform shoes came into fashion was the day God said, "Nacey dude, I'm giving you a break." My toes still hurt from the odd time I wore those pointy icky shoe things from the 80s. Not that you wear heels, right Wil? Yeaaah you bet. Posted by: Nancy at April 23, 2002 09:12 AMThere is always worse. I will be 40. I never had a wife or kids, but my brothers' kids are having kids. Will they known Uncle Tony? Still, I feel peaceful because, no matter what, I have given myself a sense that my purpose in life has been fulfilled. In other words, it's all in your mind. Life is what you make it with what you got and you got more than most. Posted by: adeversole at April 23, 2002 09:28 AMWow. The great thing is that everyone feels the same way- no matter what they say. You knwo that everyone has gone through that stage where they are so unsure of where they are going and just want to retreat to where they've been. You are in good company. Posted by: Darcy at April 23, 2002 09:46 AMI'm loving all this "When I was 31, it was a very good year..." stuff. Oy. Nostalgia sucks. I can't stand to look back for more than a couple of minutes and have NEVER understood those who... say... STILL listen to U2. I loved U2... about twenty fucking years ago. But I've moved on. Being over 30 ain't sad. Looking over your shoulder back at your "glory days" is sad. Check this out... This is what arch-fucker George Lucas has to say about you 30-something loser Internet geeks (and me). http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020429/story.html >> Lucas blames the anti-Jar Jar sentiment on "37-year-old guys who spend all their time on the Internet." Now. Fuck Lucas before Phantom Menace, but now he's slamming guys like me who just happen to be 35 and just happen to spend all their time on the Internet (although to be fair, I get paid for it). But you wanna talk about losing your edge... Rick Berman and George Lucas. They have amassed a gargantuan warchest and surrounded themselves with a phalanx of yes-men, but those fuckers have been churning out shit for many, many years. You wanna know what's cool about being over 30? Yard work. Okay, I did mention earlier that pulling dandelions sucks. And it does. Also mowing sucks a lot. Hate that shit. But planting strawberry plants and like churning up dirt with a big rototiller is cool. I would go so far as to say it is... THE Coolest. In fact, I wish I could get paid to just dig in my backyard all day. Fuck this cubicle shit. Yeah, it pays for the backyard, but I really, really want to get paid to just plant shit. All day. But I want to get paid well. And I want a safe to drop on George Lucas' pompadour. Fuck that guy. And fuck his clones. And fuck Berman too. And while we're at it... fuck Bono. And fuck my dandelions. TWO tines. But getting back to Lucas... Bitch. How the fuck can he offload his failure onto the heads of the kind of guys who watched Star Wars at age 12 back in '76 (or whenever)? Are fat Internet geeks responsible for Howard the Duck and Willow? Now, I have never owned a Star Wars action figure in my life or indeed any action figure. In fact, I honestly can say I have never purchased a single item which in any way relates to Star Wars. Don't have the movies taped, didn't buy the DVD (in fact, my entire sci-fi geek trove consists of one Star Trek II DVD and a Mr. Worf lunchbox which my brother gave me as a gag. That's it). But if I were one of those guys who DOES have the whole action figure spread, bought the comics, DVD, so forth, I'd be pissed. This is like Bonzi Wells and Rasheed Wallace here in Portland. Earlier in the year when the Blazers were not even close to making the playoffs, Wells shot off his mouth about how the players more or less deigned to acknowledge the fans out of the generosity of their heart and that there was a clear distinction between US (all caps) and them (lower case). Well, those fuckers are about one week away from yet another premature playoff exit and who the fuck are the sorry, sad fuckers who pay to see these guys lose and then shit in their open mouths? This is why athletes and celebrities should be fed into woodchippers. Oh. And fuck Cuba Gooding Jr. too. And Robin Williams. And fuck my dandelions. TWO tines. Again. Shit, this place is getting all stuffy. Need some air. Oh. And you don't like my rambling post or it's tone? Well, eat it up with a spoon, bitch. That's all. Posted by: Spudnuts at April 23, 2002 09:50 AMThanks Wil, "..everything is beautiful in its own way... la la la Ebay is GREAT for nostalgia..(HOWEVER its spelled Like someone said "everyone gets old." ITS OKAY! Posted by: bluecat/redblanket at April 23, 2002 09:55 AMHey Spuds: 32 ain't any better. However, you do have the benefit of wisdom and more power, or rather more influence, since people take a 30 year old more seriously than a 20 year old. I dread aging mainly because of the inevitable death that comes. I would live forever given the chance...or at least a really, really long time. Oh, and the mortgage payments suck hairy monkey ass too. :) Posted by: jim at April 23, 2002 10:32 AMWil, all I can say that the hypernostalgia feeling you've described is (must be) one of the universal human experiences... Just take a look at how many of us are going through it, including myself. I mean I'm 26 going on 27, married and my husband and I just bought our first house, which was such a dream of ours... And so we're hit with the responsibilities and the bills. But I am looking forward to it all - this is what life is about. We're all lucky that prospectively we can look forward to 70 or more years on this earth, which is a lot more than our grandparents expected. And so we are all growing up and struggling to accept it as part of life. It is one of many tasks to come. Posted by: SpaceCadet at April 23, 2002 10:39 AMI don't wanna die. Posted by: Spudnuts at April 23, 2002 10:42 AMThen learn to spell. Well, Uncle Willie, all I can tell you is that it's not any easier in your late 30's! I'm 37 (and will be 38 on August 7th) and I can tell you that I can recall with all too much clarity, not only experiences, but conversations of my youth. My teen years were fun, though like most every other teenager, awkward - and sometimes painful. My greatest reflections come from the years '82 thru '86 - right after highschool up to the year after I turned "LEGAL". I'd give a lot to have fun like that again - working in record and book stores and not caring that I made very little money because I was happy and having FUN. Not that I want to be another that quotes a song for his nostalgia, but I am and unable to escape the truth, so here I go (again on my own).... After the fire, the fire still burns The fire can be the final twinges of your youth slipping away. It can be the passionate wonder that you once applied to almost everything. It can be the way you feel when you reflect upon times you're glad to have been a part of. Whatever the fire is to you, Wil, I truly hope you never lose the feeling of the burning. We're old before we realize or understand that there are stages to life that need to be lived to the fullest. We don't need to feel pain when the fire burns, just learn from it and allow it the proper recognition of what it means and how it shaped our lives. Enjoy your memories, Wil. Hopefully you'll have them forever and not lose them to some disease or affliction. Bask in the beauty of your memories, as they're your personal history! Kind regards, Jerry Posted by: Norbie at April 23, 2002 10:57 AMWhat I meant was, I am so glad I am not THE ONLY ONE feeling this way. The posse has spoken: hypernostalgia exists. Posted by: SpaceCadet at April 23, 2002 10:59 AMThree words to this entry Wil: AMEN TO THAT !!!!!!! Posted by: Marie at April 23, 2002 11:03 AMSpudnuts: I'm with you on that Lucas stuff. But, to his credit, he hit upon the power of Myth. Not 'myth' as in magazine headlines like 'Hair gel as Contraceptive: The Myths and Facts.' As if 'myth' is supposed to be synonymous with 'fallacy.' Incidentally ... I'd have saved the F-word for James Cameron or Paul Verhoeven... Posted by: Dave at April 23, 2002 11:03 AMdake said: >> Then learn to spell. TWO tines, or two times? Tines, motherfucker. N. Not M. Spudnuts is in complete control of the language. If it gets posted, you better believe I put every motherfucking character, jot, and tittle there for a reason. It is not my job to translate. You need to decipher ME. Keep up. I don't slow down for stragglers. Posted by: Spudnuts at April 23, 2002 11:05 AMI'm 33 and instead of getting depressed about it, use it for motivation. Get with it! No more wasting time. Every moment that you spend thinking about how things suck is a moment that you never get back. Why not use those moments having fun? Jesus Christ. You want Chagall to point to a red blob and say "that's a rooster?" Sheet. Posted by: Spudnuts at April 23, 2002 11:06 AMSpudnuts: Don't worry you'll never really die. Far in the future someone will dig up an ancient computer with these strange sound files and they too will become worshippers of the mighty Spudnuts and his glorious rants. Either that or they'll run away screaming. *grins and ducks* Posted by: Gaea at April 23, 2002 11:08 AMHeh, spudnuts, you're probably a Sonics fan too... Admit it, you traitor... I'll turn 30 exactly 10 days after you, Wil. Single, no kids. Most of my friends are either late teens or early 20's. Still tho, I know what you feel. I, too, have those days. Then I go out with my young friends and have some fun. Remember that....have fun. We each have our individual responsibilites, but after those, we can have fun. We'll always long for yester-year, when times seemed simpler...long for those old friends. But, at any age, we can get out and have some fun, enjoy life for what it is. Posted by: William at April 23, 2002 11:13 AMLakers. And I don't get jack shit if someone Laura Comstocks my MP3s three hundred years from now. Hey, Future! This is Spudnuts. Dialing in from 2002. Pay me, motherfuckers. Fucking jetpack, no biodiversity-having, vitamin pill-eating freeloaders. Posted by: Spudnuts at April 23, 2002 11:13 AMYou forgot electric-car driving. Posted by: dake at April 23, 2002 11:19 AMWill, I came out of the movies the other day and saw all the little teeneyboppers sitting there waiting for their rides - acting like asses. Trying to get a few drags in before mom shows up. I walked right past them to the applebee's ordered a MUCHO Mudslide and snickered. I don't ever want to be a teenager again. 20 maybe but never that young. Posted by: Jodilyn at April 23, 2002 11:27 AMWil, The posts I've been reading make me wonder why people don't use more common sense in their everyday life decisions. I've read many of the posts and it seems that people are unhappy with their lives due to the decisions they have made. For instance, people are complaining about not having enough money and what they are going to do about taking care of their kids. Well, why did they not think about the costs of having children before they went ahead and had some? Why not be smart and build wealth and financial independence before jumping into something as big as having kids, or buying a house or new car? Be smart about decisions, think them through, create a plan and strategy then go for it. I'm only 26 and my wife and don't rush into the big things in life. We made sure we could afford a nice house, cars and other stuff before we went out and bought them. That way, there are very few surprises; you know you can make your mortgage and car payment, have money for vacations and the things you want and invest as much as you can for retirement. Sure, stuff comes up but, you have to put money aside and build up your personal war-chest so that one day you can become immune from whatever the government or individuals throw at you. I've lead a nice life so far and I'm blessed. But I wake up scared every morning. It keeps me on my toes and allows me not to take my success for granted. I have a high-pressure job. I know I'm not in the best physical shape due to the fact that I work a lot. But I'm better prepared for things that will come along and every day we get closer to the day when we really won't have to worry (financial independence and retirement). I love the site. Keep up the good work. SpudNUTS...have you thought about therapy or You sound more angry than normally angry. Nostalgia DOES have its place in the world. I'll be turning 30 in about 2 weeks...so i totally know what you mean.... 'As i get older, i seem to realize, that all the good intentions don't match up to all the lies as i get older i don't get quite so phased, by people clenchin fists in anger, pardon me while i count the ways what happened to the good times as i get older i always will pretend now that i'm older one thing is still unsure what happened to the good times _______________ cheers wil... Posted by: tyson at April 23, 2002 12:54 PMWil, I feel for you. I'll be turning 32 in September. About two weeks ago I heard an Iron Maiden song on the radio which just about fused all my synapses together, because I no longer bear even a superficial resemblence to the teenager who had 10, sleeveless, black T-shirts with a dead guy silkscreened on them! For what it's worth, here're my thoughts on being 30+: Don't romanticize your youth too much! When you were a teenager a lot of things that you can shrug off now hurt deeply and bitterly. Hell...I was miserable for a good portion of my teen-age years. I'm glad that I'll never be that miserable and uncertain ever again! Don't think that 30 is some magical age that opens the doors to some secret chamber wherein the secrets of the adult universe are revealed. They aren't. I remember how clueless and confused my parents were, yet they always tried to pretend they spoke with absolute authority. I've learned not to do that. Don't be afraid to say "Hang on...I'm trying to figure this out." There's no reason you can't keep gaming. I do...it helps keep me sane(ish). ^_^ "Remember...no matter where you go, there you are." Thanks for the great site. & hang in there. Posted by: John at April 23, 2002 12:59 PMhow sad I lost my 25 year old wife three months ago from, of all things, a kidney stone. I'm 28, soon to be 29 and I feel the same way you do Will. We owned 2 houses (we rented one, not rich by a long shot), had a dog and a cat and basically had life by the horns. Then it all came crashing down. Our dog dies of kidney problems and then my wife shortly after from a kidney stone...just me and the cat now, alone. It's tough at times and you want to go back to the old times, the good times. But I have to think that there will be good times ahead. New memories that I'll make and old ones I'll never forget. Posted by: Sean at April 23, 2002 01:02 PMWil, HI Wil.....it's so strange that you would write down what i am feeling...last night all i could think about was my past, old friends, people places.....i turned 30 today, it is interesting for me to think about where i thought i'd be and where i am now....all in all...i'd give myself a couple of days to get over the shock of saying...i'm 30 now :) Posted by: Plum at April 23, 2002 01:09 PMYou know, I waited to get married until I was 30 (thank God, who knows who I would've been with if I hadn't!) and I'm know 33 with my first little guy just hitting 9 months old. And y'know what, even though I have the mortgage, the day job, and still dream of writing/acting in something more than community theatre, I'M STILL THAT KID!!! My wife still let's me buy Comic Book's, and even read them herself. I still look forward to Disney movies, and the latest sci-fi blockbuster. And while I no longer play my RPG's (who has time???) I get to play with Little People with my son, and look forward to appreciating his toys as well! As long as we let the joyous parts of our childhood remain, the challenges of adulthood are far less threatening! Posted by: Timothy Van Bruggen at April 23, 2002 01:22 PMhey wil look you are so sexy, man i am still 19 and i want to back to when i was 12 and be hyper and crazy that was the shit. but hey you are really awesome my b-day is in july and im getting the 20's blues. how did i get so old, ok wil this is not helping any sorry didnt mean to say that. youre still the cutiest pimp daddy in the world and wouldnt change it for the world. hey did you read my post of soapbox "why i think wil wheaton is cute" it might make you feel better. hey dont tell me you were that colin dude everybody is talking about :) well anyway take care buddy me and toonces think you are still and will be a hot babe Posted by: annalisa at April 23, 2002 01:34 PMGurps? Seriously, Wil, I thought you were a better geek than that. I mean where's the fun in 3d6 for everything? It's discrimination, that's what it is! Think of the poor bastardized dice out there, living on the street, just trying to scrape enough money together to buy some cheap hooch or a line of coke to forget their troubles. You gamers out there, listen up. These Dice need your help. Roll up a barbarian. Swing a great axe. Play Morton's List. Do your part to save a young polyhedron. Brought to you by the Society for Outcast Random Number Generators. Posted by: Random_Tangent at April 23, 2002 01:48 PMI, too, am on the expressway to age 30. Though no spouse or children are in my picture, I also find myself reckoning with Time about what I uphold in my life. And even with all this nostalgia and contemplation looming over me like some comic book villain, I can't help but think that I've been very lucky and that hitting the mother of all milestones will only propel me to savor the tasty bits of life even more. Posted by: KB at April 23, 2002 01:52 PMNow, I know this is a "female" poem, but it's too much fun not to post right here, right now, on this thread. (Although, with 230 plus other posts ahead of me, I can't really see anyone reading *all* the way down here.) Warning, by Jenny Joseph When I am an old woman I shall wear purple You can wear terrible shirts and grow more fat But now we must have clothes that keep us dry But maybe I ought to practice a little now? I don't know when I read so much maudlin nonsense. Turning 30 should be a cause for celebration! You've collectively been there and done that and you don't have to go through all that bullshit again. The point is that while you may have legally become an adult at 18, its the next 12 years that marks your ascendancy as you absorb your education though trial and error and start to display your creative prowess. John McGregor Posted by: John McGregor at April 23, 2002 03:14 PMI digz them Spudnuts rants. Posted by: Kman at April 23, 2002 03:44 PMHoly fuck Wil, you lived *my* life! I always thought this was a cool website just like ones my friends would make (albeit a tad more professional looking ;) but it never really hit me that your childhood/adolescence would turn out to be virtually identical to mine. Amazing man. Posted by: Brent at April 23, 2002 05:12 PMLucas? Don't get me started. I had the misfortune of being somewhere once when someone tried to tell me that I - being 30 years old this year (and celebrating by hiring an inflatable jumping castle for all my 'grownup' friends to bounce with reckless drug-addled abandon on thank you very much) - am part of the STAR WARS GENERATION. Fuck that shit. Sure, I was sitting in the front seat of my parents' chocolate-brown Toyota station wagon at the drive-in in March 1978 staring up at the pretty lady and the robots, stuffing popcorn into my six-year-old mouth and drooling. In 1980 I was confused as to why Yoda sounded like Fozzie Bear. In 1983 I remember ducking as the Millenium Falcon entered the second Death Star (and by the way, if your first ultimate weapon was destroyed by a spaceship flying into it and dropping a payload, wouldn't you make sure that the second one had vents that were too small for a spaceship to fit in? Just asking. Because the Falcon is waaay bigger than an X-wing, so to me it looks like they made the god-damn vents BIGGER or something. Way to conquer the universe, guys). But I also remember other stuff, totally unrelated to Star Wars. Like Caravan of Courage. No, Wait. I meant to say Raiders of the Lost Ark. And I RESENT being generationally pigeonholed into a movie trilogy just because of a large number of gut-dangling geeks and their fear of death. Resent it wholeheartedly. Hey, does anyone remember Lucas' cameo in Beverly Hills Cop III? It's a classic. See, Axel Foley has to rescue the cute kids trapped at the top of some amusement park ride, right? So he pushes in line at the ferris wheel, shoving aside the couple who are at the front. Guess who's at the front. Go on, guess. No, I'll tell you. Lucas. George Lucas. And his wife. And Lucas says, "Hey!". That's his line. And he blows it. Totally unconvincing. Not convinced at all. An unconvincing "Hey!" No real anger. He even looks straight at the camera. And turns to walk off before he's finished the line, because that's his cue. Say "Hey" and walk away. But he can't do it convincingly. Not even with Joseph Cambpell coaching him could he do it convincingly. And that bright yellow sweater? Ugh. What a geek. Now Star Trek - THERE'S a show. Sign me up for the STAR TREK GENERATION. Or the one after that. The... you can see this coming, can't you? The NEXT Generation. Heh. Posted by: matsya at April 23, 2002 06:42 PMGeez, that whole entry makes me want to cry. Getting older maybe isn't quite so bad. It's not the long weekends spent at the beach, frying, trying to catch some far-older & cooler surfing-dudes eye, while you adjust your brand new bikini...but those little smiley moments at 3am with my son....to me they are far more important..who cares about mortgages or unemployment or the fact that my gas heater is going to blow my house up any second? I am SO with you, Wil. Ah yes, I remember MY thirties, Of course, MY thirties were somewhat well documented in at least 79 episodes...And then there was that whole T.J. Hooker thing...I apologize for that.
WFS *Sob* I shouldn't add to all the "I know exactly how you feel"s, but I can't help it. It hurts, man Posted by: larken at April 23, 2002 08:09 PMI am 29 since this March- Married for 4 years this July but I have been with im a total of 7 years, I have Two kids- one of which is from an ex-husbend who does nothing to make my life hell-which ages me more- I am not as yet lucky enough to have a mortgage we have to pay rent for a bit longer. My oldest is 9 (10 this Oct) and it never seems to amaze me how fast she is growing. I have seen those Commercials that are those compilation albums- and All I want to do is order them not so I can torture my self of my youth and good it was but they actually remind me of some of the goals I had and have yet to fulfill. Time moves on and we get older- but it's how we use our time Now that is important. What's important is how you use your time now- Are you doing what you wanted? All I can say is Baby I am half way there, I had few bumps in the road but I am back on track. this, while incredibly depressing, at the same time makes me so much more adamant to continue to live as i please forever ... all this 'growing up' bullshit can be left to people who actually want to do it ... sure, i work, i have bills to pay, and all that shit, but i make sure that they sit in the background as things that may have to be done, but dont get in the way of me doing whatever i find most enjoyable with my time ... the only way you are ever going to think that you have ever 'wasted your life' is if you are somehow mistakenly made to believe that there are better things to do than whatever YOU WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW ... and while society may do its best to impress this upon you ... you have to RESIST this thinking ... dont listen to all this 'you have to endure sometimes' and 'thats life' garbage ... all those people are just blaming their own lack of perogative on others, make your life whatever you want it to be ... the secret is not to give a shit what anyone elses thinks of what you are doing, just so long as you are doing what you wanna do ... at any rate, thanks for the wake up call ... its all too easy to slip into the set 'business' lifestyle ... the type of life that makes you look back in 10 years and wonder where the time went ... live for the now, not for the 'what might happen' ... Posted by: Simon at April 23, 2002 08:20 PMhey wil, hey cutie it's good to cry every now and then believe me i have had my share of cries to especially me who is getting the 20's blues because i be turning 20 this july so it's a bummer Guess I was lucky that my family chose not to let me get too depressed on my 30th birthday. They sent me 30 cards all telling me I was old. The funny thing is that it wasn't until I saw one of those f'ing TV ads about the 80s CD that I realized that I was now old enough for the music that I listened to in high school to be considered oldies and compilation material. My answer was to get really smashed and buy one of those CDs just to burn the son-of -a bitch. By the way, has anyone seen that last bottle of vodka? Posted by: Patrick at April 23, 2002 09:44 PMWow. I've had those moments recently. I'm 27, about to be divorced, my youngest is starting school in the fall, and where did all that time go? It seems like yesterday we were cramming into my mom's car, blasting DM or Crowded House, on the way to Denny's for all night coffee sessions. Now I'm cramming the kids and all their gear into the car listening to the Bob and Tom show trying to get to work/school/practice on time. But I wouldn't trade it for a thing. Whatever issues or problems we come across, life is good, kids are great, and no matter how much effort you put into being a good parent, it's worth it, because they give you back so much more. I miss the old days, but I wouldn't go back. Posted by: B-ness at April 23, 2002 11:16 PMi was told i could pass for a man of 30 when i was 17, so having looked older in a way prepared me for the inevitable, i suppose, but it's still Got some meaningful lyrics for ya right here: -------------------------------------------- She was pure like snowflakes Years go by, I'm lookin' through My blood runs cold My blood runs cold Slippin' me notes under the desk I was shakin' in my shoes Those soft, fuzzy sweaters My blood runs cold My blood runs cold Na-na-nana-na-na It's okay, I understand Pardon me my soul has slipped My blood runs cold My blood runs cold And of course, by "memore" I mean "memory". Of course. Don't pretend you didn't work that one out yourself. Posted by: matsya at April 23, 2002 11:26 PM>>And you don't like my rambling post or it's tone? "it is tone"? Sorry, Spuds, but you put the challenge out there. You did say, though... >>If it gets posted, you better believe I put every motherfucking character, jot, and tittle there for a reason. If you wanna dig some holes or weed or cut branches and shit, our yard really needs it. Sunny, warm California, too. And what's with all the song quotations? I feel I must join in. I scream, you scream Sorry to disturb. Oh, come on. it's not that bad. This too will pass. These moments like to sneek up on us at the worst times, but come on, did you really just realize life was passing faster and faster than it ever did when you were a young'un? Hey Wil. Hugz, Kath Posted by: Kath at April 24, 2002 02:39 AMI'm just coming upto 26 and like will, i'm going through a phase where I just can't stop thinking about all the friends i've lost and the good old times that are long gone, I get home from work and listen to all my old faveourite 80's tracks and even found some websites with all the old cartoons/kids progs I used to watch and cherish, is anyone else feeling like this? Posted by: Gavin Collins at April 24, 2002 03:41 AMLet's have a black celebration, -Martin L Gore Wil I feel your pain...I'm turning 31 in about 4 months and when I get feeling that ol' nostalgia blues my wallet usualy ends up 100 bucks lighter (Amazon OWNZ me)I'll end up getting this 80's movie or book or music, then I'll feel depressed. Its normal to look back and say "if I only knew then..." Posted by: brian hunt at April 24, 2002 06:31 AMoh to add to the last post I think the most disconcerting thing about turning 30-ish is going out for a beer with the guys seeing this REALLY hot college age girl and then realizeing or finding out that she "used to be" a buddys baby sister...oh christ getting old sux0rs Posted by: brian hunt at April 24, 2002 06:36 AMwow, i thought i was the only one. i recently grew out my hair for no reason i could fathom; i finally did a bit of self-analysis and realized i was striving for the 80's "cy curnin" look i had so carefully cultivated in my youth. jeez. i'm 80ing out bad. and it's only getting worse. kids these days have NO idea what good music is. Posted by: mike at April 24, 2002 06:41 AMSpudnuts you are ill. Demented even. I love that in a person. Rock on! Posted by: Nobadthing at April 24, 2002 08:12 AMSo true. So true. This aint' no never-never land. Maysya, it is as though you had looked straight into my soul. Now, you got any song about pirates?
Aaaarrrgh. Posted by: hot soup girl at April 24, 2002 08:23 AMOops. Sorry Matsya, I spelt your name wrong. Shiver me timbers. Aaarrgh. Posted by: hot soup girl at April 24, 2002 08:31 AMWil, Sounds like you've got some really good memories from what, for many, is a difficult time in life. Cherish those memories, and let them sustain rather than down you. Make a shit load of new good memories from the now. Balance, my man. Balance. And yard work. Posted by: colin at April 24, 2002 08:49 AMwow that was so deep and meaningfull. i know what you mean though. i have a huge age gap between me and my brothers and remember what i went through at their ages. i was growing up at the same time as u and remember similar things that went on at the time. Posted by: lizzie at April 24, 2002 09:01 AMhttp://reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=entertainmentnews&StoryID=869962 Posted by: balldodger at April 24, 2002 09:03 AMI am 26 and I remember a moment in my life like it was yesterday... I was maybe 12 or 13 and the very, very first episode of "The Wonder Years" came on. I lived on a small suburban street and my room was on the 2nd floor facing the street. I opened the window on that fall day, the sun setting with a crisp cool air blowing in the window and over my bed. I turned on the tv and watched this show about a boy my age, longing to be older, longing for a first girlfriend, a first kiss, some glimpse of what his life would grow to become. I remember getting chills from the cool fall air coming in the window and being terribly sad and excited for the future to come. Now of course I am 26, married, and have a brand new mortgage. My life is secure, my job is a dream, my wife is amazing, everything seems so perfect. But looking back... nothing was ever so perfect as the day I realized I had a life of choices ahead of me, experiences yet to come, a cold cool breeze blowing in a window from the fall can make you think of the future of spring. Posted by: David at April 24, 2002 09:23 AMAnd you weren't a total 100% geek to begin with? KJB said: >> "it is tone"? Sorry, Spuds, but you put the challenge out there. Eye mint too due that. Posted by: Spudnuts at April 24, 2002 09:35 AMWE all have crossed the gauntlet...to the victor Wil: Would you really want to relive all of the mistakes you've made? Don't be like Cher, on a recent interview, she said there was nothing good about growing older. There is something to be said about wisdom. I want to be like Orson Welles in reverse, I want to make a great movie like Citizen Kane, but not when I'm in my 20's but rather in my 60's! I will make no movie until it is time. Come on now, just because you're not a kid anymore doesn't mean you can't fly a kite! Posted by: gil urias at April 24, 2002 10:00 AMWil, Well, I understand, Wil. I'm 31. Wife, kid, one kid on the way. And while being grown up now has a lot of worries and responsibilities, I wouldn't trade it for the world. Yeah, my childhood was full of those lazy summer days kicking back on the lake, or trading baseball cards with pals, but man, I'm so glad to never have to date again. Or get teased in school. Or have friends turn their backs on you and make new friends. I think some of those childhood times were relatively as worrisome as paying bills and taking care of the kids, you know? I know what you mean, though. Days gone by - my mom said it best. "Those were the good old days. We just didn't know it then..." Posted by: BeeGee at April 24, 2002 10:46 AM~*blinks and stares*~ Wil, I don't know you... nor do I know anyone else who has posted here (Well except for Stuffie, she sent me here), but I am sitting here during my office hours, between classes with tears in my eyes after having read your post along with the majority of responses you have recieved. Yes, embrace the future and blah blah blah... but I have been mourning the past for the past two months since my 25th birthday, since I realized that I am one of the only members of my graduating class that hasn't "settled" or simply accepted what their life path was set to. I'm not quite sure who I really am to be honest... All I know is that I feel like everyone has grown up without me, and I'm still stuck in Acedemia persuing my PhD. ~*shrugs*~ If it makes you feel any better, perhaps it isn't the age that induces the onset of nostalga, but the realization that you have lost your innocence... Safe journies... Shit Wil, I'll be 30 in October, and I know what you are going through. Just remember a few facts: 1. You are still young. I had to ram this one home to myself, and I guess its a mid-midlife crisis of sorts. I kinda felt the same trepidation when I turned 25. 2. Don't Feel Young? Join a Gym! I mean really, what is youth anyway? Endless amounts of energy and no responsibilities. You can at least try to get one of those things back. 3. We are Generation X. Resistance is Futile. Don't forget that you are the very essence of generation x. Our scathing dry humour, our entreched cynism, our unique awareness of just how fucked things are around us. The difference is, now we can bring about meaningful change. I'm sure your involvement in the EFF leaves you with a superior, righteously arrogant attitude - SAVOR IT. We were right about many problems - we made our opinions heard, and now people are seeing the consquences. 4. You still LOOK YOUNG. Isn't that really important, anyway? Thanks to advances in skin care, as well as sports medicine, etc, injuries and conditions that used to separate the old and young are blurred. If this was the 1800's, I'd be walking with a bad limp, if I was lucky to be walking at all. Instead, I can do 20 reps of 200lbs on the inverse leg press. Isn't science great? 5. You have a family. Many people can't afford children until their mid thirties, and then miss out on so much - like grandchildren, for example. Others who do have children, usually by accident, have sealed their fates - a stop in education, taking menial, "safe" jobs, not taking any risks, really, surrendering their youth for the sake of their children. You were lucky enough not to see the potential dark side of that. Listen, 30 is not really old. Its an abstract representation of how your body's clock synchs with others born on the same day. Granted, many people who are 30 look 40, but still, many people who are 30 look 20. Just remember: alcohol free skin balm and hi quality eye cream, and you'll look fine until your first plastic surgery. Feel better. Posted by: Kurt Winter at April 24, 2002 03:31 PMDanny Elfman kicks so much ass. Posted by: Kerrington at April 24, 2002 05:46 PMSpudnuts said: >>Eye mint too due that. Gotcha, big guy. Rock on, Spuds. Posted by: KJB at April 24, 2002 09:58 PMOK. I'm going to try to keep this as brief as possible, because some of this has already come up in previous posts. I just hit 39. Chances are my life is half over. My life has turned out nowhere close to what I expected. I struggle every day with that fact, and try to find a way out of it. They way out is there,but I'm too complacent/lazy/scared to take that path. So much for the road less traveled. I'm married with two kids, but that's no excuse. I could still follow my dreams and ensure their future. Smaller house and all that.I still have time to change. I plan to change. It gets tougher to do so every year, but it's not too late. Here's my point, Wil. You're young. You'll always be young if you choose to be. If you're truly in a loving relationship with your wife and kids (and yes, I have a stepfather, and he is, for all practical purposes, my father), then none of this other BS matters. Don't despair. Do what's right. You'll ultimately be rewarded. Keep the faith. Greg Posted by: Greg at April 24, 2002 10:44 PMSweet, Im 4 days older then u junior. Posted by: Mondoterrifico at April 24, 2002 11:56 PMhey...At first I thought this was one of those 1st person fansites...but it really seems to be the real deal. So, I just wanted to say I really admire a celeb who keeps a journal/blog like a "normal person" or whatever. Well, as long as you keep your memories everythings ok. Cheers, Sven Posted by: Sven at April 25, 2002 02:42 AMKnow what you mean. Just went to my old highschool two days ago. Of all the things I could think about there and remember, I believe the one I miss the most is myself. "Of all the different prisms and myriads one can use to look at a certain reality, I believe the one I hate the most is time" Cesar A. Posted by: Cesar Alarcon at April 25, 2002 07:08 AMHey W, I've been 30 since last November and I have a step-daughter GRADUATING high school in a couple months. My step-son is almost 16 and has a driving permit, and my own daughter just turned 9. And I've been going through a lot of what you're describing... and you know what? Just knowing I'm not the only one helps a lot. Not that I thought I was the only one, but it's helpful hearing someone else say it when you feel it. Thanks for being such a badass that you can openly talk about your hyper-nostalgia, and I hope you find your funny... Posted by: Fish at April 25, 2002 08:49 AMFirst post here but I have been reading for a few months now. I will be 30 in a year and 2 months but I feel it coming already. My wife and I have been married almost a year and now all of my buddies are getting married. There will probably be more days like the one you described but take heart and throw in a Cure cd or a old B52's tape and jam on! I think of how I'm done playing the dating game, get out the Atari 2600... play a lil Warlords with the fellas and throw back a few beers and every thing is okay. Like Hannibal said... "I love it when a plan comes together." Posted by: Brian Brassine at April 25, 2002 09:46 PMHey Wil, I just read Michael J. Fox's book 'Lucky Man'. Here's a guy who has gone through all the insecurities of being an actor, who has a wife and family he loves, and who is looking back from 40 - ten years ahead of you and me. It's pretty comforting. And funny. Even though he has a debilitating, chronic disease. Life's weird that way. You might enjoy the book. jw PS Sounds like we're almost exactly the same age. It's an achievement to have got this far and to still be healthy, sane and relatively well-adjusted. This used to be maximum life-expectancy... Posted by: jw at April 26, 2002 08:22 AMIt makes me sad that you can feel so much regret at the passing of time when you've accomplished so much. It's so surreal to read a post like this about the landmarks about your youth when you were one of the landmarks of mine. It does reassure me a little, though, because it's nice to know that I'm not the only one who looks at my life sometimes and wonders if maybe there could be anything more. Posted by: Sabrina at April 27, 2002 09:18 AMY'know I spent most of my twenties dropping in and out of college, between stints of unemployment. Thanks to my girlfriend, who I met when I was 25, I actually finished my degree (even though I didn't get a job). I finally got a job when I was 29, a christmas temp (which then became permanent) in an electronics store. Believe me, I was depressed, spending the last couple months of my twenties catering to obnoxious customers and having to do the work thing. But I survived turning 30. I never did do the things I would like to have done, but two and half years later I am 5 months from qualifying as a registered nurse. My life certainly isn't perfect, and htere are still dreams I would like to fulfil, but probably never will. But the thing is, my life IS good. I touch a lot of people's lives, and I (usually) have a positive effect on them. Sure, I see a lot of the bad things too, but I try to keep the good stuff upfront. I guess it's no revelation to say that our own lives are often defined by the other lives we touch, and the effect we have on them. And at the end of the day, if we can say we had just one positive effect on even one other life, then we can rest easy. OK, so maybe that's simplistic, and maybe it's naive. I don't pretend to have any easy answers to life, but this works for me :) Posted by: Nick at April 27, 2002 05:54 PM"Hyper-Nostalgia". Good phrase-coining. I think everyone goes through this, at least in one way or other. Mourning Lost Youth and Innocence and All. Unfortunately, time stops for no one, but the adjustments we have to make in the transition from Human Was to Human Being can be difficult to handle. At least for me, anyway. And don't sweat the alleged "washed-up" status. You're only washed up when you let yourself give up. Sometimes you're just in a holding pattern without realizing it. Christ. I'm really not good at the "supportive" thing. I'm much better at the "cheesy" thing. Good luck.... Posted by: patrick at April 27, 2002 10:39 PMWil, You can still enjoy all the things you have in life, no one, especially society or the status quo should ever direct your efforts or abilities. I have many times thought about leaving the MOUSE but found that who can beat this job? It still reminds me to think young and not to be embarassed about it. Take it from a 45 year old man, IT NEVER ENDS! You'll always look back at your life, no matter what bullshit people tell you about "Wait til your (enter age here)". i know exactly what you mean.exactly. Posted by: kim at September 23, 2002 11:44 PMMissed this post when it was new -- I must not have been reading WWDN yet. I got all weirded out when I followed the "hypernostalgic" link and then saw Batman -- seven years ago, my first Big Paper in academia was about a phenomenon I called hypernostalgia (different meaning than the way you're using it), and the way it's reflected in Batman: http://ktepi.freeservers.com/batmanpaper.html Wacky. Posted by: Bill at September 25, 2002 12:30 PMI understand that feeling of losing something, but I do not think it is so much youth as it is just the good ole days. I myself never had a youth. I had an abusive, drunkin father who cared more for the booze then his own children. My parents divorced, but still I suffered much trama and so my school career was wreaked. I was the man of the house at age 10 and I literally had to raise two brothers and a mother, who was 17 when she had me. With the events in my life you would think that I would have turned out to be one of those statistics, but in fact that was not the case. I grew stronger because my grandfather who died when I was 8 gave me a good foundation. He took the place of my father and through his teachings made me a stronger person I truely believe whatever does not kill us makes us stronger. I am now married and trying to finish my degree if I can just only get the money to live and pay the bills. But anyway to the point. I had no childhood and a few years ago (I turn 30 next year by the way) I started having those same feelings of sadness and could not quite put my finger on it. Then one day it hit me. It is not the loss of childhood nor my childhood itself that I missed, but rather the times and adventures that I had. I had a good bunch of friends and we had many adventures and many exciting times. When you are grown up you have adventures, but they are just somehow different. Maybe because when you grow up then so do your friends and without your friends the adventures seems lifeless somehow. Well perhaps lifeless is not the word, but maybe just not the same. We as humans tend to hate change, because change is a sign of growing up and growing old. Well I have took up enough of everyones time. Post a commentThanks for signing in, . Now you can comment. (sign out) (If you haven't left a comment here before, you may need to be approved by the site owner before your comment will appear. Until then, it won't appear on the entry. Thanks for waiting.) |
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