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« I'mPossible | Main | Awesome » June 21, 2002Kaaaaaaaahhhhnnnnn!!!Wow. I slept on the couch last night, and set my alarm to 415 am so I could watch the game without waking up my wife. Nolan slept on the floor in front of me, and ordered me to wake him when the game started. When the alarm went off, we both sat up, and watched USA take on Germany... As a former goalkeeper myself, I can say with some authority that when you have two great teams, the difference comes down to goalkeeping, and Kahn is simply phenomenal. The US tested him more fiercely than he's been tested this entire tournament, and with greater pressure than Germany's seen. I'm proud of USA, the same way I'm proud of Senegal. Nobody thought either of these teams would make it past the first round, much less into the quarterfinals. My only real quarrel with the game was on the foul which resulted in the indirect kick which resulted in the goal. It really looked like a dive to me, but I'm watching through USA eyes, in the middle of the night I don't think there was a hand-ball in the 2nd half. The ball clearly played the German defender, as I saw it, and heartbreaking as it was, that was the only time USA was going to beat Kahn. Funny thing about Kahn...every time he'd make a huge save, we'd look at each other and in our best Captain Kirk, say:Kaaaaaaaahhhhnnnnn!!! I thought it was a great match, and it was nice to see Germany have to play really hard against a team who wasn't expected to make it past the round of 16. Comments
i just wanted to be first post... Posted by: renee mercuri at June 21, 2002 10:30 AMglad you enjoyed the game wil...... we were doing that too..... cheers Posted by: Tyson at June 21, 2002 10:31 AMHehehe. Love that kaaaahhhn yell. Classic Posted by: Kelly at June 21, 2002 10:34 AMand now that i am first post, i just wanted to say thanks for the updates on the soccer matches, wil... i read you all the time and admire your writing skills... i appreciate the football updates - you get me excited about the world cup, which is more than my dad has been able to do...i'm so pumped about the semi-finals and the final game - just not pumped enough to watch it on tv, so please keep up your daily updates... thanks! Great game wasn't it! Glad you all enjoyed it. We must all make the most of this world cup! Posted by: Lynne at June 21, 2002 10:38 AMFirst let me say that I don't get into sports. Today, however, I had a revelation. Soccer is probably the one sport I can appreciate, if not watch regularly. The players have to THINK, not just follow a plan of action directed by someone else. It's extremely physical without being overly violent (unless you're in the stands) and it takes incredible skill, both mentally and physically, to be a damn good soccer player. If any part of you is lacking, you will not play well. If you don't know your teammates well enough to anticipate where you need to be, you will fail. I cought a glimpse of the game online today, and I have to say that even as a geeky girl with no interest in sports, I can see why this game causes riots. w00t! Posted by: Anhedonia at June 21, 2002 10:44 AMHey Wil, I guess you will now have to join me in mourning (I'm English - and darnit did we throw away our best chance to win the World Cup in decades :( Well done to USA though. They put up a great fight and deserved at least one goal. Hope the fanbase picks up your side of the Atlantic - your team deserves it. Well, who to support now? I'm pretty sure Brazil will win and, being English it would be nice to say that we lost out to the winners. But my heart is set with Korea. Boy do they have guts. KOREA !!! KOREA !!! Posted by: Caroline at June 21, 2002 10:47 AMHey Wil, Did you as a soccer player like me appreciate Quiddich in Harry Potter and the role of the goal keeper? Just wondering. Chris Hey Wil, Did you as a soccer player like me appreciate Quiddich in Harry Potter and the role of the goal keeper? Just wondering. Chris Hey Wil, Did you as a soccer player like me appreciate Quiddich in Harry Potter and the role of the goal keeper? Just wondering. Chris I was up at 5am at the local downtown sports bar with about 300 other bleary eyed americans drinking beer. At 630 the game started at 830 3/4 of us were drunk while the other 1/4 had to goto work. Me being 1 of those that had to goto work =) It was a good damn game too bad we couldnt pull it off kaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!! Posted by: John Orfei at June 21, 2002 11:13 AMDidn't you wake everyone else in the house up yelling "Kaaaaaahhhhhhhnnn" in the middle of the night? Posted by: Chuggnutt at June 21, 2002 11:17 AMmy brother got up at 5:30 to watch that game. i figured it was really intense because he kept yelling at the screen. Posted by: kristin at June 21, 2002 11:18 AMHi Wil Im from Germany and i think the USA Team played very good. The game was very hard for the German Team. I think the USA have the best players and Germany had enough luck to win this game. Without Kahn, USA have win. USA is the real winner. I hope you understand my bad English. Bye Silke from Oldenburg/Germany Posted by: Silke at June 21, 2002 11:40 AMBugger, England lost. Oh well losing against Brazil ain't as bad as it could of been. Funny to see USA do so well, I picked them out of the Hat in a sweepstake at work 1 month ago and thought that was my 2 Quid out the window, but they did so well i got a bit more out of my money. Posted by: Port Stanley at June 21, 2002 11:49 AMDang, that's dedication. We couldn't even stay up for the England-Brazil game. We're weak, I tell you, weak. Posted by: Courtney at June 21, 2002 12:11 PMKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHN YOU KILLED OUR CHANCES Posted by: Terry at June 21, 2002 12:22 PMI share your sorrow man ;0) Was odd to watch the first half of a football match in bed, then watch the second half in your school hall absolutely packed with students with more patriotism than respect for when their team are diving all over the place. And then, within ten minutes of the game, to be sitting in the library doing drama research. Weird :0/ But commiserations to USA and England - at least there's Portugal '04 for us *Smiles weakly* Posted by: EofS at June 21, 2002 12:27 PMhaha that is so wierd. I watched the whole game and never thought of the Kahn reference. . and I just watched the movie less than a week ago. Maybe I just don't think at all bout trek. . Oh and I don't think the game came down to the goal keepers. I think it came down to the fact that Donovan sucked. Alot. Posted by: Chelsey at June 21, 2002 12:30 PMpredictions: Wil, You are such a trekie! LMAO Posted by: Surge383 at June 21, 2002 12:56 PMwil, i would just like to reiterate.... shame about the england game :/ i was in the middle of an a-level when i heard the rather disappointing news. btw, i just linked your site from mine... just checking that's okay. Posted by: emma at June 21, 2002 01:09 PMduh. 2006 would have made more sense. I did say the USA had a great chance of beating the germans and although they lost in end i think the performance vindicated my confidence in them. Also it was definate handball on the line by the german defender. also loved that free kick by ronaldinho, fantastic! Posted by: Malky at June 21, 2002 01:23 PMI think USA did much better than Germany today. Sure, as a German, I'm happy the Germans managed to "stay in" a little bit longer, but it was not a game the German team can be proud off - USA did a better job and had more and better chances... Oh and by the way, I can't spell Kahn.... Posted by: Joerg at June 21, 2002 01:49 PMthe game didn't have the right winner - although even as an austrian i have to admit, that the german team is in a way less arrogant than in all the worlcups before - so it is possible to accept their being lucky. very fascinating to most europeans is the us-soccer boom - unpredicable some years ago and highly appreciated by everyone - finally you enter real world series and championships ;) Posted by: tomtom at June 21, 2002 02:08 PMI think that England vs Brazil was a much more on ur seat game .... :( cos now we are out, thanks to our crappy pot shots. It was a good game, the country taht invented Football, and the country that made it famous. Posted by: Chris Batey (EizlAw) at June 21, 2002 02:23 PMI managed to catch the second half after I got off work (man nightshift sucks) and was really hoping there for the last half. They played so well I was sure they could pull it off. That one was soooo damn close! Ah well. Maybe next time around. Posted by: Jess Lat at June 21, 2002 02:30 PMIt's not Kahn, it's Khan. That is all. Posted by: Pete at June 21, 2002 02:36 PMHey has Wil ever met shatner? Posted by: Jeff at June 21, 2002 02:45 PMThe writing was on that wall from kick-off. USA had loads of shots on target, but if you don't get them against a team like Germany you get punished. Shots on target just make them more determined. At least we've been spared an England vs. Germany final though... Posted by: John C at June 21, 2002 03:12 PMWil, I think the best thing I can take away from this game is that the US finally played the better game and LOST! They have so long gotten the cheap wins on a few executions, despite giving up three times as many shots. Now they finally play better and lose. This is a team that is now thoroughly on the world stage. Posted by: dave at June 21, 2002 03:33 PM*sigh* USA out. *sigh* England out. Is there any justice in the world? :) At least they got farther than perhaps any of us expected! So, who's gonna win the world cup? My heart says either Korea or Senegal, my head says Brazil. Hopefully Argentina have a better chance of winning the world cup than Germany... Roll on Euro 2004! Posted by: Andy Taylor at June 21, 2002 03:50 PM*sigh* USA out. *sigh* England out. Is there any justice in the world? :) At least they got farther than perhaps any of us expected! So, who's gonna win the world cup? My heart says either Korea or Senegal, my head says Brazil. Hopefully Argentina have a better chance of winning the world cup than Germany... Roll on Euro 2004! Posted by: Andy Taylor at June 21, 2002 03:50 PMHi Wil, I`m glad that you enjoyed the game. I didn`t! :-) Hey! I'm so happy i found this website cause i'm such a big fan! i think you are just awesome! I have your movie Stand By Me and it is my favorite movie of all time! i love your daily (well sometimes daily) updates. you make me crack up alot! well i just like you to know of another nerdy :) fan out there! Steph Posted by: Stephanie at June 21, 2002 04:48 PMHey! I'm so happy i found this website cause i'm such a big fan! i think you are just awesome! I have your movie Stand By Me and it is my favorite movie of all time! i love your daily (well sometimes daily) updates. you make me crack up alot! well i just like you to know of another nerdy :) fan out there! Steph Posted by: Stephanie at June 21, 2002 04:48 PMHey! I'm so glad i found this site cause i am such a big fan! I loved you in Stand By Me (have the movie) among other movies! I think you are awesome! I want to be an actress! When are you going to get the section on your site for aspiring young actors or do you already have it up. i think you are great from nerd to nerd ;) Stephanie Posted by: Stephanie at June 21, 2002 04:53 PMsorry i didn't mean to post that 3 times not good with computers so just don't think i'm stalking you p.s told you i'm a nerd :( Posted by: Stephanie at June 21, 2002 04:56 PMHey, you guys played a lot better than I had expected you to. You nearly got us, but that strange mixture of luck and total incompetence saved us again. I wonder how long this will go on. We´ve defeated the Empire!!! YES! Oh, btw. please don´t declare us terrorists now... Posted by: justme at June 21, 2002 05:11 PMOh well. There's always the next World Cup, I suppose. And for some odd reason I think Germany is going to pull out the overall win. Call it a hunch. Posted by: The Silent Strider at June 21, 2002 05:25 PMI also agree that Germany will pull it off. The last game was a real eye-opener for them. The USA did extremely well and surprised a lot of people. Posted by: chris at June 21, 2002 05:31 PMhaving a strong u.s.a. soccer (football) team gets us more respect in some parts of the world than anything else we could do...and unlike the evil star trek "khan"...this one didn't do it "for hate's sake"...and after the fantastiic run of the u.s.a. soccer team...all i can say is "i feel young"...d.burr Posted by: d.burr at June 21, 2002 05:40 PMalso congrats to my long lost relatives in germany...condolences to my long lost relatives in ireland...better luck next time...d. burr Posted by: d.burr at June 21, 2002 05:46 PMWell, really lots of luck on our part (I'm German). The last thing I heard before I switched the TV off was Klinsmann saying: "Well, we played even worse against the Czech Republic in 1990 and then won the cup..." Amen to that one :-) Posted by: Angelika at June 21, 2002 06:04 PM
It was a typical German World Cup match I'm afraid. If there's one team that always drags themselves through with a 1-0 it's the Germans. The only scant consolation is that England beat them 5-1 during the qualifiers. Oh, and that Oliver Kahn looks like the guy from Castle Wolfenstein... Posted by: Andrew Davies at June 21, 2002 06:26 PMbeing a scotsman I had no team at the world cup to support...however I had pulled the usa out of the hat in my office sweepstake so had a vested interest in u guys doin well...did my best homer simpson "u-s-a, u-s-a" chants whilst watchin their games and I am just hellasorry that u guys lost out to what was a very definite penalty for handling on the goal line...what makes it sadder is that the referee was a guy called hugh dallas from scotland...the shame...i love u guys as eric cartman would say... Posted by: jock at June 21, 2002 06:31 PMbeing a scotsman I had no team at the world cup to support...however I had pulled the usa out of the hat in my office sweepstake so had a vested interest in u guys doin well...did my best homer simpson "u-s-a, u-s-a" chants whilst watchin their games and I am just hellasorry that u guys lost out to what was a very definite penalty for handling on the goal line...what makes it sadder is that the referee was a guy called hugh dallas from scotland...hellalame...the shame...i love u guys as eric cartman would say... Posted by: jock at June 21, 2002 06:32 PMWil? Just wondering! Have you heard of the Hollywood United football team? They are mainly made up of British ex-pats (but they wont hold that against you ;o)), and I read somewhere, that they are always on the look-out for fresh meat, I...I mean talent! lol I know Rod Stewart plays for them, as well as a few of the Sex Pistols and Vinnie Jones has turned out for them a few times as well! Posted by: Foxychik at June 21, 2002 06:56 PMTime to give a big thanks to all the old school American players who made this possible. Guys like Alexi Lalas (who didn't play on this World Cup Team) Agoos, Balboa(who also missed this one) Cobi Jones, and Ernie Stewart. Guys that in many cases were walk ons for their collegiate teams. Alexi for Rutgers and Cobi for UCLA. They weren't supposed to make it to the international level but they did. If Ernie had been called up to the Dutch national team he'd have never played in a World Cup as the Netherlands have failed to make it the last two times. Thank you for the memories and with guys like Mastroeni, Donovan and Beasley, I am really looking forward to the future. Posted by: kman at June 21, 2002 08:27 PMsoccer is confusing. just cuz i know nothing about it. Soccer Is definitely a third world sport.BORING!! It's funny how "soccer enthuiasists" try to ram their little sport down peoples throats. If you don't like it you don't understand it!! Waaaahh!! they try to put the ball in the goal, and it does'nt happen much. Take your Soccer and shove it up your ASSES!! Posted by: Dr. J at June 21, 2002 09:55 PMHey Wil, You're into soccer, too? And hockey? Hmmm... there was a film called Baseketball, so why not... Soccerockey! Posted by: Don at June 21, 2002 10:23 PMHey, Wil! You should have heard that "Kaaaaahhhhhhnnnnnnn" yell in the pup in Kempten (germany) I watched the game (funnily it was an american bar called "rookies"). I died several most cruel deaths watching the USA's wonderful forceful play and was raised into heaven seeing Ballak make the goal. Olli Kahn stole the game from the USA. Now it's 8:30 the next day and I watch the game of our next contrahent. I think it will be spain... Posted by: matschko at June 21, 2002 11:12 PMI was just pissed the USA beat Mexico, they did play far beyond what anyone (including mexico) expected. props for going down well...It was a good day to die...;-) i couldnt help myself Posted by: Luis at June 21, 2002 11:20 PMBalls, the handball incident was a definate and should have resulted in a penalty kick and a sending off. We in England must have had different coverage of the game because on the replay it clearly shows the ball hitting the defenders wrist, the arm snapping back from the impact and the ball bouncing out. The USA did score in that game and were cheated out of thier world cup advancement by a poor German. The Germans as usual dived whenever anyone got near. And the whole game was a farce. Now is the time for the fourth official to be watching replays throughout the game and relaying it back to the ref. I'm sick of the fouls, shirt pulling, simulation and other cheating that's gone into this world cup. Posted by: Da at June 21, 2002 11:42 PMIt was definitely a penalty for handball - Blindo Hugh Dallas must have thought he was back at home in Scotland to miss that one. Might not have changed the outcome, but it would have made it a lot more interesting. Posted by: Scrimshaw at June 22, 2002 12:14 AMWil, at the risk of sounding commercial, I have one word of advice to you to avoid middle of the night referee calls.......... TiVo. Posted by: BBOCK at June 22, 2002 12:20 AMI think a lot of people are forgetting that the United States was ranked 10th in the world coming into this World Cup. Just because we tend to underachieve on the International stage, and our best club side probably couldn't beat a bunch of Portugese university students, doesn't mean that we didn't belong in the Quarterfinals. But hopefully now MLS will start to resemble a Football Association with real footballers that play real football with a real football. (Can you tell I'm not a Raiders fan?) Posted by: Jay at June 22, 2002 12:27 AMMy commiserations to the USA team, but my heart is broken from the lucklustre performance that saw a not-great (relatively compared to teams in their history) Brazil take England out. We really had a chance to make this another 1966 but we were too tired and inflexible. Perhaps the players play too many games during the normal league run (what with the English Premiership, Champions League etc etc) Korea vs Spain though - WOW! Another shocker in a perhaps the most surprising World Cup ever (eg France out, Argentina out, Italy out etc). Its a pity had that otherwise Man of the Match Joaquin had to marr the ending with an angry outburst directed against officials. I'm even surprising myself by rooting for the Koreans to win! Their fitness and gamesmanship has been a breath of fresh air. When we routinely have players diving for penalties, pretending that they're hurt when they're clearly not, pulling shirts, pushing, using elbows etc - its refreshing to see the Koreans get up after a nasty tackle and play on without having to stop the game for a bout of histrionics. Just like Andy Taylor said above, my heart says Korea, my head says Brazil (although a Brazil - Germany final would be great). Posted by: Bowner at June 22, 2002 05:11 AMPenalty would have been a harsh call and a red card would have been a crime. The defender even tried to get his arm out of the way, this would never have been called a handball on the field so why should it have been a handball on the line? The red card comes if it is a DELIBIRATE handball... but I guess Da was one of the 80% of people in Britain a recent poll showed didn't know the laws of the game :p Posted by: Jói at June 22, 2002 06:53 AMWil! I was a goalkeeper as well and I have to say this World Cup has been a former goalkeeper's dream to watch! So many of these games have been decided by the keepers. I was sad to see Friedel beaten by a free kick that shoudn't have even happened. (Germany must be taking acting lessons from Mexico, eh?) He had a hell of a run. I admit he wasn't my favorite American Keeper going in. (KELLER KELLER KELLER!) But damn he made me proud! Oh well, the world is officially on notice. USA... The Sleeping Giant has awoken! Burma- OUT Posted by: Burma at June 22, 2002 08:39 AMDid not Landon Donavan have an incredible tournament? WOW! Kaaaaahhhhnnnn! He is the only reason we are not in the semi-final. GO USA! Shouldn't that read Captain Fucking Kirk? Posted by: Tim at June 22, 2002 10:52 AMKaaaaaahhhhnnnnnn! ((laughs)) That never gets old. What channle dos these soccer game's come on? I'm going to have to check it out. Today is my 18th birthday! Now I can rent porn. ((laughs)) Odd. Oh I quite agree with you on the handball issue and Kahn was the best in that game. Amazing. With that game, he has become one of my most favoured goalkeepers. Later. Posted by: Athena at June 22, 2002 01:51 PMHey Wil and everyone else - Okay, it would have been interesting to see the US advance but, really - would it have meant ANYTHING except to the few soccer fans in this country? No way. When you get the President of South Korea, after the Koreans won today, stating "This is the happiest day in our country in five thousand years" (okay, maybe that's a little paraphrased) do you think we, as a country REALLY deserved it? Don't think so. The guys on the US team certainly DID deserve it but it would have been anything of consequence to this counrty? Nope, I don't think so. I think George II MIGHT have given it an "Oh, that's nice" but not much more than that and the vast, vast majority of sports fans out there would have just brushed it off. Later, K Posted by: K at June 23, 2002 12:28 AMSomehow, I'm not surprised Uncle Wil likes the Lords of Acid, Andromeda. Posted by: KJB at June 23, 2002 02:24 AMThe red card comes if it is a DELIBIRATE handball... but I guess Da was one of the 80% of people in Britain a recent poll showed didn't know the laws of the game :p Posted by Jói at June 22, 2002 06:53 AM You see, that means your giving the German player the benefit of the doubt. I am not from the multitude of camera angles I've seen my opinion is that: I told you Germany will win... Posted by: Tanja at June 23, 2002 08:22 AMI saw the game from Cairns, Australia live too. I am an American on a study abroad. That kick that resulted in the point definitly did not look like a foul, in fact, to me at least, none of them looked like they deserved anything (maybe a couple here and there). I really wish they could have won -- especially since I was watching the game with several Germans. Either way, it was a good showing, especially considering that the USA has only ever made it this far one other time (1930's I think). --llanos Posted by: llanos at June 23, 2002 08:32 AMStill in mourning over England being resoundly thrashed to bits by Brazil, but at least when my husband and I go out now, we'll be spared a white and red painted neanderthal bawling 'Owwwaaayyyy The Lads!! C'mon Becks! Innngerlund, Ingerlund!!' Dunno how the USA are doing at the time of writing, but it's great to see 'em in the games! Cool site Will....BTW, here's one (very ancient) Trekkie who actually LIKED Wesley Crusher, AND who LOVES Russell Watson's theme to Enterprise ;)...ok, so shoot me!! Losta Hugs :) MadamCodXXXXXXXXXXX Posted by: MadamCod at June 23, 2002 08:41 AM.....oookkkaaay, so I didn't read the thread carefully enough. Ah Well, Team USA will have a chance in 2006! Posted by: MadamCod at June 23, 2002 08:44 AM....and I don't have to wear a chicken costume!!! My american co-worker and I had a bet on the game, the loser had to come to work dressed up as a chicken. Thank god for Kahn! Posted by: Nicole at June 23, 2002 09:06 AMJoi - That number (80% of england doesn't know the rules). Ask any diehard fan of the big four US sports and I doubt they could define a balk or infield fly in baseball, holding in football, icing in hockey or why most fouls are called in basketball. Cheering like blind fools must be more important than having much of a knowledge of the game. k Posted by: k at June 23, 2002 10:11 AMDa: > B: The arm was held away from the body sufficiently to deflect the ball "Look, he's moved! Must be cheating!!!" > C: Germany always cheat at this level of play. Now, that's a great way of deciding whether to send a player off or not. If I had it on tape I could comment on your first point, too, but the last two definitely weren't very convincing. It should have been a penalty though. Posted by: Angelika at June 23, 2002 10:26 AMAnybody but the Germans! Now England, Ireland, USA and Senegal are out Im cheering for South Korea! Nice to see them beat Spain! ha ha ha! Posted by: Hannah at June 23, 2002 10:35 AMThat part during halftime when TeamUSA were about to tunnel there way to freedom but then decided to return and play the rest of the match with Germany...that was priceless. Bushie Bush Posted by: dub'ya at June 23, 2002 12:49 PMOk so maybe the last one was a bit of a dig. :p hey k, there are actually more soccer fans in the u.s. than you might believe - and think of it this way: we have probably the same amount of fans that are in england, or germany or spain. it's not our fault we have a bigger population that makes the soccer-loving majority seem lesser... :-P the way soccer has been organized in our schools though, i know many many kids my age (17) who love soccer - and as more generations learn it, it will become bigger - just like our other games, it has to become more ingrained. also, i really don't think it matters how happy the president is - if south korea has nothing to be prouder of in 5000 years, something is seriously wrong. (well, duh, :p) and if it makes ya feel better, dubya called the team pre-game. Posted by: ashley at June 23, 2002 09:02 PMHey "Uncle Willie", Wil - you are such a cool dad! I'm two years into my journey into fatherhood, and I have to admit you inspire me. It sounds like you offer your kids a lot of strength, courage and fun. We didn't watch much soccer together (hey my daughter is two years old - waking up at 4 in the morning is the *last* thing I'm going to encourage!!), but we did a lot of cheering for Canada's hockey teams in the Olympics. When I ask her who her favourite team is, she now smiles and yells "CANADA". Too cool. I enjoy reading about your life and family. Blog on, m'man! Posted by: rob at June 24, 2002 10:56 AMAm still sad that USA lost. They were the best there. Germany only won because of luck. Bye, Helene Posted by: Helene at June 24, 2002 02:14 PMIn case you sleep through any of the remaining games....you can find great commentary on http://www.worldcupblog.org It's getting great reviews and it's as hilarious as it is serious about the sport. Fun. Posted by: Jen at June 25, 2002 12:05 PMhi!! 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