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« Nowhere Fast | Main | ...and a little good news » December 09, 2002SadtimesOne of my old spacesuits is being auctioned off on eBay. I'm not sure why, but it makes me feel a little sad. I'm sitting here, about to write a little entry about it, when my phone rings. It's a friend of mine, asking me if I'm going to the Star Trek X screening. "Yeah, on Wednesday," I tell him. "No, it's tonight," he tells me. "Tonight? At Paramount?" "No, it's in Westwood, tonight," he tells me, "I just talked with Marina about it." Oh no. That feeling I have gotten so many times before, when I was the only cast member not asked up on stage at the 25th anniversary party, when I was the only cast member not recognized at the screening of "All Good Things..." begins to well up. I feel a little sick. He wouldn't do this to me, right? Not now, not after the conversations we had when I was working on the movie, not since the phone call informing me of the cut. This must be a mistake. Past is the past, right? We're cool now. There is no way he'd exclude me from this. But he did. He did it to me again. I want to cry. I tell my friend that I have to go, and hang up the phone. I sit there alone and cold in the kitchen. I can hear Ryan watching Sabrina The Teenage Witch in the living room. I can't believe this is happening to me. When Rick told me that my scenes were cut, he assured me that I'd still be invited to the premiere, and that he'd see me there. I was excited to see all my friends again, and share in those moments with them. Be a part of what will really be the final mission. It turns out that the screening I was invited to will be at Paramount on Wednesday, and pretty much anyone who works at Paramount can attend. It's not the premiere, and none of the cast are going. There's really nothing special about it. I seriously, desperately hope that this was just an oversight. I desperately hope that this is totally out of Rick's hands, and that he'll tell me that he's sorry if it ever comes up. I desperately hope this isn't personal. I want so badly to believe that it isn't. It sucks to be overlooked, but it sucks less than if I'd been intentionally not invited. It sure fits a pattern though, huh? I just -- I don't know what to do. I don't even know how to feel anymore. But I'll go with hurt for now. Really, really fucking hurt. Trackback Pings TrackBack URL for this entry: Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Sadtimes: » ¿underdog? advocate from lily of the valley » http://www.irvingplace.net/blog/archives/2002_12.html#000454 from Irving Place » So much going on from Intellectual Orgy Comments
It's such a terrible feeling to be left out. You should just look at your family and put it out of your mind. The worst thing is to dwell. Feel Better! Posted by: Erin G. at December 9, 2002 05:23 PMOh, Wil. I'm so sorry. I don't even know what to say, other than I think it's really fucking unfair the way you keep getting treated, over and over again. :( Posted by: Angie at December 9, 2002 05:25 PMI'm sorry. I was disappointed to hear that your scenes had been cut. My friends and I always felt that you were an important part of the show. ouch. but think about it, who cares about a movie premier when you will someday be invited to one of my gallery openings! and the exclusive party, too. ooooohhhh. can't pass that up. Posted by: the green sarah at December 9, 2002 05:29 PMYah... Rick Fucking Berman. The man who keeps gays out of Star Trek. Posted by: Jake at December 9, 2002 05:29 PMit's easy for people to tell you 'screw them all - don't think about it'... but it's not that easy is it? it's really hurtful and cruel of them to treat you the way they do. Oh geez... Is there any way to impeach Berman? Wil, man, that sucks. I was going to say "I feel sorry for you", but having someone "feel sorry" for you sucks even more. So let's just say we recognize the suckiness, hope you're feeling better soon, and know that karma-wise, this is gonna come around in the end. Just remember, Wil. He may have Star Trek, he may have beaucoup Paramount bucks, he may even have the ability to screw people, but you've got something he doesn't have, and never ever will. Monkeys. Puts it all into perspective, don't it? Posted by: Traska at December 9, 2002 05:30 PMI think i'll sum this up real easy Dood, that just sucks. It's that simple. That just sucks. I don't suppose you can just crash the party, huh? Pheh. The man isn't worth the electronic bits I'd use flaming his sorry butt to a crisp. Go look out the window on your beautiful green lawn, hug your family, and trust that your fans will flame any dorks who obviously underestimate you. We love you, Wil. (wanders off, in search of multiple addresses to send honest little holiday greetings to Mr. Berman telling him exactly what I think of him) Posted by: Adele Shakal at December 9, 2002 05:31 PMSorry to hear about this Wil. I know how it feels to be left out. Makes ya want to head over to bermans house with some eggs and TP, but that wouldn't really solve the problem. Might make you feel better, but doesn't solve the fact that he's a snake and that you need to look past working on Trek and move on to bigger and better things. Posted by: Scott at December 9, 2002 05:32 PMDon't let the bastards get to you Wil. You should go, and walk right up to the bastard and thank him for inviting you. I'm always available for some arm breaking or some knee-capping. Fetus. Posted by: scraping fetus off the wheel at December 9, 2002 05:33 PMOh, Wil. I'm so sorry. You are too good of a person to have this continually happen to you! :( K Posted by: KB at December 9, 2002 05:34 PMThat fucker. I'm getting tired of Rick Berman's shit. I've never heard a name more winced at when it comes up at conventions. Believe it or not, Wil, we are with you. I can't get you to Westwood tonight, but i can at least offer solace in our appreciation for who you are and what you do. //fist held high Stein Auf! Posted by: Chris - TFN at December 9, 2002 05:35 PMYa, my vote is for taking him on his word and showing up. Screw the "oversight". Posted by: synchronicity at December 9, 2002 05:35 PMI think you should make "Hello My Name is Rick FUCKING Berman" T-shirts. Posted by: Jake at December 9, 2002 05:36 PM*hug* I'm sorry that this happened to you. Being left out hurts. Period. Go ahead and cry tonight. Tomorrow, put yourself back together and try not to let your anger take over. Posted by: Bombay at December 9, 2002 05:36 PMI don't think I would go if I were you. The point was for you to go and be with your friends and the other cast members wasn't it? They really screwed you. Hopefully it was an oversight. Believe it or not you were always my favorite on TNG. You are my age and you were the smartest one on the ship. I admired that and admire you more now. Posted by: Jeff M. at December 9, 2002 05:36 PMdood. that royally sucks arse. Dude, that's harsh... Of course, he could have invited, then neglected to tell anyone else, leaving you stranded with security on the wrong side of the velvet rope... I know it's not much comfort, but something tells me the audition earlier might turn out better than you thought... Posted by: Brian at December 9, 2002 05:36 PMI would like to say something heartwarming and
This is for you Wil. ColleenS Posted by: ColleenS at December 9, 2002 05:37 PMLate last week, I am grocery shopping for my grandmother; Grandmary a pure Trekkie, through and through. I see the Special Edition TV Guide with Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner on the cover. I buy it for her, because I know she'll want to keep it and add it to her other TV Guides with Trek on the cover. And miscellaneous other trek things I got her. Cut too... My Mother comes over... She's looking at the Tv Guide, she flips right to the article and then she looks up and looks directly at me. "Is Wil in it? Wheaton?" "No. He was cut out." "WHAT!" Totally appalled. Totally mad. "Well what the...." I try to console her. "He'll be in the DVD Special Edition I am sure..." She grumbles more. Grandmary adds in her two cents. "I wasn't happy to hear about that either. Now do we need something special to play the DVD." Bizarre conversation trying to explain DVDs to my grandmother -- all because we have to see Wesley Crusher!!!! Frankly, if some PTB idiot wants to screw you over and be a moron, and not GET what Wesley and you are to the the History and COlor of Star Trek it means nothing. Because everyone else who isn't making the stupid decisions would have you there in a heartbeat and personally I think we are more important. Rachel (whose mother also admitted to not being in love with Patrick Stewart and totally shocked her. She liked everyone else better, so there you go. My Mom loves you more than Patrick Stewart. LOL) Posted by: Rachel at December 9, 2002 05:39 PMNo way Wil, just no way. There's no way that he could have done this to you. ... And as I think that over in my head, I know it's not true. But from what happened before, it seems so unlikely that he intentionally left you out. I guess all we can do is wait and see. I hope it's not as bad as it looks, because you sure as hell don't deserve it. Posted by: Pandaman at December 9, 2002 05:40 PMYeah If I were you Wil I would CRASH IT AND ATTEND ANYWAY! I mean call up some other Cast members what are they going to do turn you down at the door? Crash It Crash IT Crash It Crash IT Crash It Crash IT Posted by: Jake at December 9, 2002 05:47 PMFuck them and the starship they blasted into space with!!!! YOU HAD AN AUDITION WITH ROBERT ZEMECKIS AND TOM HANKS TODAY!!! I say you buy that damn spacesuit and burn it. Posted by: skeptic at December 9, 2002 05:48 PMAll that and you misspelled the word pattern. ("patern") Man. You did have a sucky day. Posted by: Nils at December 9, 2002 05:51 PMWil- Wil, It hurts, and it hurts bad. Just know this: neither what they did, nor your hurt, have nothing to do with you, now. Hurts this big come from the past (want a journal topic? when was the first time you felt a hurt like this?). Actions of other people have nothing whatsoever to do with who you are - it has to do with who *they* are. You are such a talented writer, and it really pains me to think of you wasting emotional energy feeling left out of something as relatively small and fleeting as TNG. Don't get me wrong - I'm a fan and all that (every night on TNN) - but it is such a small thing compared to the world at large. You can make a big impact, and have nothing to do with that crowd. You're missing the future when you look back at the past. Posted by: muhead at December 9, 2002 05:53 PMI wish I knew some magic words for you. There are none. But I will give you the words my mother gave to me (as an adult) when facing a similar situation..."Fuck 'em!" Posted by: Rick at December 9, 2002 05:54 PMD'oh! Stupid spelling. Thanks for the support, everybody. Posted by: wil at December 9, 2002 05:55 PMberman - biggest. jerk. ever. Posted by: contessa at December 9, 2002 05:56 PMThat just totally sucks. I hate people that say "yeah, I'm going to do this, I'm going to invite you here, you'll be included" yada, yada, and then they pull shit like this. If I were you, I would make something of this... show the world what an ass Rick really is. I don't think I am even going to go see the movie now! Posted by: Chellester at December 9, 2002 05:56 PM8-( That bastard. Posted by: jtdarby at December 9, 2002 05:59 PMWil, I just can't believe they keep pulling this f*cking bullshit. It really pisses me off. I was always a loyal Star Trek fan and you'd think that what we (the fans) consider important would count for something. Apparently it doesn't. I don't know why I am surprised being a confirmed cynic and all, but it still really pisses me off. I am swearing off Star Trek altogether in protest for the shitty way they have treated you. Screw Them! ~fenaray Posted by: fenaray at December 9, 2002 05:59 PMWil, I'm as shocked and dismayed as you are. You have every right to be upset at Berman's crass, boorish behavior, and if your fellow cast members have any class to speak of in their character, they should be as well! I hope they gang up on Berman and give him the chewing out and telling off of his life! In the meantime, here's a poem I read somewhere which I hope will help you, especially after your problems with the audition today. The author is unknown, and there are several versions floating around. I've taken the liberty of combining them into one which I hope contains the best parts of all of them. It goes like this: DON'T QUIT (AUTHOR UNKNOWN) When things go wrong, as they sometimes will, Life can be strange, with its twists and turns, Often, the goal is nearer than Success is failure turned inside out, So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit, Sincerely, Let's face it. With Two Towers, Gangs of New York, Adaptation, Catch Me if You Can and all the other great flix coming out --- who cares about the new Trek? Honestly. Wil, it's part of your past and it's part of pop culture's past. Now... if you could score a role in the new Matrix sequels... Posted by: Nils at December 9, 2002 06:02 PMWil, to hell with Berman. If it was an oversight, these things happen, but if it wasn't, he's not worth the sadness. Just think about the friendship with your TNG castmates, and how great it's been seeing them the last few months. Think about that wonderful feeling you had, when you realized that Patrick, Brent, and everyone else thought way more of you than you dared dream. What's one pathetic little man compared to that? Focus and perspective, my friend...focus and perspective. Posted by: Brad at December 9, 2002 06:04 PMWil, That is lame. I find that I am feeling really irritated and really really sad. I don't like any part of this. Go watch TV with Ryan. -Jeff Posted by: Jeffery Borchert at December 9, 2002 06:05 PMHere I made a little graphic for you Wil Eep. :| Posted by: belinda at December 9, 2002 06:07 PMRemember when you wrote up the Anniversary convention how Brent Spiner told you to call him if you ever needed anything? Call him. Ask him if you can get everyone together to go to the thing on Wednesday. Make it as fun as the premiere. Circumvent Rick fucking Berman and his self-important attitude. You worked with the cast. They are your friends. Talk to them, get them to do the Paramount showing. If I were any one of them, I would refuse to go to the official premiere. Remember the other day when you posted Bob's message about his daughter? Remember saying we can make a difference? WE CAN and YOU can. I agree with Jeff and Rachel and her family. You were *always* my favorite and Star Trek would not be the same without you. Call Brent. Tell him whether or not you've been shafted, you want to see your friends and you want to be a part of this project you all worked so hard to make--because everyone who was in the series *made* star trek x, from Patrick Stewart down to Ensign Number 8. That certainly includes you, and you deserve recognition. Berman should realize that the more he screws you over, the more he alienates his fans. A second thought: start a boycott. As much as it pains me to think of missing a Star Trek movie, solidarity is more important. What Berman's doing is wrong and he shouldn't get away with it and profit off of it. Boycott. Period. If Berman doesn't come clean with you about what he's been doing (and cop-out invites don't count), I will be the first to boycott Star Trek. Solidarity, Wil. You have our support--your fans love you--and we will not let paramount get away with this--because if they're doing it to someone as well known as you, who knows what they're doing to ensign nomber 8? Once more, with feeling: Feel bad. Feel as bad as you could possibly feel, but do it right! Get in the bed with a pint of Rocky Road Ice Cream, prop yourself up with pillows and pull the covers up around you. (This also works well for heartache and PMS.) Announce to the world, God and your second cousin that Berman belongs to the lesser known version of Dante's 10th ring of Hell. The one were they put insurance companies and used car salesmen. Allow and ENCOURAGE people's version of 'What A Prick' he is. Let close friends and family members verbally describe ways and means of their personal favorite dismemberment of him. Have Anne tell you that if he ever tries to screw you over again, she will strap on an appendage, beat him down in a darkened alley and return the favor. And when the love and total support from them and the fans on this board is radiating through your body, get up out of the bed, put away the ice cream, and remember this...
And writer, and activist, and... No, no, it'll only go to your head. :) But not only that, you have grown and matured into a wonderful man. Which is more than what some can say. (Berman) After your done feeling bad, feel the love. Deb man oh man..... It's tough because in the "grand scheme" of things, it doesn't matter, but we all know that deep down inside, in that corner of yourself that wasn't invited to the cool kids party, you feel like shit. Although it doesn't need to be said, you are better than this. there are actors out there that treat their people like shit, that demand and strut and pose. And then there are people like you Wil, who remind me that there is STILL humanity and humility in this world. I, as a fan, feel privileged to have been a part of this whole "saga". The fact that you pour you heart out in these entries, not just to let it out, but because you know we care, is amazing. everyone else is right. delight in the fact that there are people who care, people who hurt right along with you. peace, brother. Posted by: dianna at December 9, 2002 06:17 PMOh, I'm so sorry. I know the feeling, I've been left out of so many things in my life that by now.. I'm just numb to it. *kicks Rick Berman in the arse* That Ricky needs to smarten up! Posted by: RavenBlue at December 9, 2002 06:26 PM Man. That sucks so much ass it boggles the mind. But it doesn't surprise me. As a long-time (and now former) ST fan, I've seen over and over how nasty the ST execs can be now that Gene isn't in charge, how often and thoroughly they lie, and how self-centered and profit-motivated they are. They apparently don't give a rat's ass about anything that matters, not the fans, not the actors, not the message they send with the show. Nothing-- except MONEY. You need to realize Berman will probably try pouring syrupy lies in your ear again at some point, especially if enough fans bitch him out that he thinks he's endangered his own interests. But you have to remember that the things he says ARE lies. He's very skillful at shoveling shit, apparently. For the sake of your own sanity, you need to remember that it's all crap. Be nice and be polite if you're reluctant to burn your bridges-- but remember, he can't see anything but the dollar bills in his eyes, and everything he says is lip service to whatever he thinks is best for his wallet. You've got to remember the old saying: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." I'm sorry. You deserve better. *hug* --Lil Posted by: Lil at December 9, 2002 06:27 PMHere's a little wisdom from Stompin' Tom Conners before I go "Oh the girls are out to bingo The glasses they will tinkle Asshats. Fucktards. (The execs, not you.) Something I read today might be somewhat helpful to you: http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=rasa&itemid=373116#cutid1 I personally think you should don a bad Karl Kani sweater and crash the party. But that's just me. Posted by: Rasa at December 9, 2002 06:35 PMI can't really understand how people could treat you so poorly. You were the reason I got hooked on Star Trek reruns last year when TNG was one of the few shows I could get through the antenna at college. At the beginning of every episode I eagerly scan the opening credits, and I'm always disappointed if your name doesn't show up. And this all happened before I even discovered what a great, multitalented person you are from reading your web site. This guy needs to show you a lot more respect. Posted by: Colleen at December 9, 2002 06:36 PMYet another reason for me to loathe Rick Berman. As if Enterprise wasn't enough. I'm sorry Wil. He's a bastard, a fucking bastard. He doesn't care about you or the fans. Posted by: Roxy at December 9, 2002 06:37 PMThat pathetic backstabing fucking bastard. If Gene Roddenberry (God rest his soul) had the power I'm quite sure Berman would have an unplesant experience with a lightning bolt somewhere in the vicinity of his ass. I would say that bolt would be up Rick's ass but that space is being currently occupied by his head. Thanks again Rick (Who needs a story when we have detox gel) Berman, you shameless, clueless, soulless fuck. You rule Wheaton. You rule like Gandalf, Aragorn, Frodo, Gimil, and Legolas combined. Fuck the fucking fucks Sean Wardwell Damn Wil, I don't really know what to say. You'd think that after saving the Enterprise (and letting the show go on), oh, 5 or 6 times, they would treat you a little more seriously. For what it's worth, you were one of my favorites on the show; I was then the age that Wes was supposed to be. So hold your head high, and say "Screw you Berman". I know it hurts now, but what does it matter in the long run? The execs at Trek may have snubbed you, but you have bigger and better things coming. Beyond that, you have a family who loves you and fans like myself who will stand by you no matter what kinds of shit meet that fan. Posted by: Thomas at December 9, 2002 06:40 PMThat's a crying shame he has to be this way. You deserve to be there as much as anyone else on the cast. I'm really sorry. Posted by: MrsSpooky at December 9, 2002 06:42 PMSorry that happened, Wil. It really does blow. It would be nice if one of your castmates with some juice (and impaired follicles for instance) chewed his ass over this. Posted by: Zeno at December 9, 2002 06:42 PMYou know Wil, if there's one thing I have learned in my 32 years on this earth, it is that Karma exists. Not in a spooky hari-krisna way, but in the way that if you do something bad, then some serious jooo-joooooo will boomerang right around and bite you in the ass. Well, I think that Berman is ripe for that. Jake, I love it!! So cool! If Wil makes it into a t-shirt I will fair dinkum buy the sucker and parade it around at a convention. I also really agree with what Clara wrote - call Spiner, go as his guest, and act real cool. Yeah, ICE cool. GO. If you bump into Berman, say "Hi", smile, turn and walk away as the class act you really are. Posted by: Kat at December 9, 2002 06:43 PMJeez. That really sucks. I'm sorry that you feel left out (again). I don't know what to say. The only things I can say are cheesy and sappy, but true: take comfort that your family is there for you when you need to cry and vent, and so are your devoted monkeys. Screw Berman. Like you said, you enjoyed the fun times with your ST:TNG family, and you'll always have those special times. We're here for you. *HUGS* Posted by: Anne at December 9, 2002 06:44 PMThat's awful kiddo, but before you feel too badly, remember there have been a lot of times where you thought you'd been snubbed or left out, and it turned out to be a misunderstanding. I'm not saying this is one of those times, but it could be. It'd still suck to miss the one that the cast attends, but ... well ... at least it wouldn't be deliberate. Although, I completely agree with those who've said, "JUST FRICKING GO!" Go to the damn thing TONIGHT!!! Then again, the Rocky-Road ice cream in bed could potentially be a delightful alternative. (Get your minds out of the gutter, people. :-)) Posted by: MrsVeteran at December 9, 2002 06:46 PMI don't know what to tell you, or what to say. I do know you're not the only one who's felt like this. Right now, I'm feeling similar, for reasons of my own. I really don't know if you even read all these comments your posts gets. I know you probably don't even have time. If I'm making you feel worse, I'm sorry. That's not my intention. Because you shared this with us, I'm going to share with you a post I made tonight in my own journal. This post is actually friendlocked in my journal, but with me anyway, sometimes it helps knowing I'm not the only one who's feeling like this. Feeling alone and left out is the worst thing in the world, and something I'm very familiar with. I'm so sorry this is happening. Changing my email addresses. Not answering any ones I recognize. Just dropping out of virtual space, wiping the slate clean, starting over. Cutting all ties. It's so easy to believe that it would really make things easier for everyone else. Cybernetic suicide. I don't even know if I really believe in friendship anymore, at least, nothing that lasts. I want to. I try to. But deep down there's a tension, a preparation for a strike, a blow. Anywhere. Everywhere. More than that, I hate myself for it. I hate the fact that I *still* hurt. I hate the utter conviction I have that I'm not missed, that my absence has left people overjoyed and fixed everything. No, this isn't brought on by a recent post or any emails I've sent. I've been thinking this for a few days now. I've been feeling this for a long time. That temptation to just disappear. Cut ties. Make it easier on everyone. After all, how long before other people thing I'll never have a life worth living, worth caring about? And it's not even fair of me to think like this. I cannot stress hard enough how angry I am -- at *myself* -- that this still ties me in knots. That I can't let go. That I can't stop missing who I thought people were, what I thought they were. Love is a close cousin to hate, and it's a struggle every day to keep that from consuming me. It's not fair of me, and I know this. It's not fair to everyone else. But I'm really tired of reaching out. I'm tired of being crucified for mistakes -- especially mistakes which have been apparently catalogued, backlogged, and then referred to in vague ammunition and never defined, or tossed out as a "...and let me tell you what else I think is wrong with you" manner, old hurts that were never addressed, allowed to fester. Am I really that evil, that despicable? Or is it like sanity? If you have to ask if you're insane, then you're not? I don't know. I don't have *any* answers anymore. I do think I'm defective as a human. Maybe if I cut all my ties, disappeared from every corner of the world - real and cybernetic - and just started over fresh, I can have a second chance. Starting over. A chance to be somebody else who's not defective. All I really want for Christmas is to stop hurting. Posted by: Zanne Chaos at December 9, 2002 06:49 PMI know I don't know you, Wil, but I feel like I do after reading WWDN since I discovered it a few months ago. And I have to say, I feel like someone has dissed a friend of mine. That sucks. You were just as much a part of TNG as any of the other cast members. Wesley was a big reason why I connected so much to the show, and I know a lot of others feel the same way. Just remember that even if they're excluding you, you've touched the hearts and minds of a lot of fans who will always include you in the Star Trek legacy. Posted by: Christine at December 9, 2002 06:49 PMThat sucks! All your monkeys still love you though and we'd never exclude you from anything! Posted by: Sunidesus at December 9, 2002 06:57 PMIt's so easy for us all to give you advice, Wil, and you seem to be going through really tough times lately. But we haven't lived the life that Wil Wheaton has, so we really aren't fully qualified to tell you what to do. You're the best man for the job there. In any case, I just wanted to say that I hope things work out. And that I agree with most of what the people here have said about Trek slowly fading into the past. I tend to think Berman's at fault for it; the fans liked Trek because it was different and special, and Berman's steered the course right away from the specialness. Would you want to be held in such esteem by someone who's such a lowlife? You've got specialness in you already, and your own particular brand of coolness. There'll be a light at the end of the tunnel. Talent like yours will out. Posted by: Mike Harris at December 9, 2002 06:58 PMDear Wil, Oh, and by the way, it takes a big man to go online and share that story and your feelings about it. A much bigger man than Rick Berman. Posted by: Christine at December 9, 2002 07:02 PMWhat an utter and complete bastard. I don't think I can say this enough. Wil, you deserve alot better than the crap they are giving you. I'm so sorry. Posted by: rani23 at December 9, 2002 07:03 PMWhen I go see the movie, maybe i'll scream out "WHERE'S WESLEY CRUSHER???!" in protest of what happened. Regardless of Rick Berman, I think you are the cats meow Wil :) Posted by: syndromes at December 9, 2002 07:07 PMWow.. What a god damned bastard. Sucks beyond all belief when people you think you trust do this to you. Sometimes, of course, it's all just a mistake on their part; and oversight. But when it happens intentionally.. and you confront them about it.. Aye aye aye, that's not a feeling one wishes to experience everyday. Hope you go/did go. Make him explain. Be ultra-attentive on his body language, tone of voice, use of language, etc. Y'know what I mean :-) Posted by: pyrex at December 9, 2002 07:11 PMWow.. What a god damned bastard. Sucks beyond all belief when people you think you trust do this to you. Sometimes, of course, it's all just a mistake on their part; and oversight. But when it happens intentionally.. and you confront them about it.. Aye aye aye, that's not a feeling one wishes to experience everyday. Hope you go/did go. Make him explain. Be ultra-attentive on his body language, tone of voice, use of language, etc. Y'know what I mean :-) Posted by: pyrex at December 9, 2002 07:11 PMTo cheer you up, a piece of poetry, paraphrased: Rick Berman, you m****f****, you're gonna pay, You are the one who is the b***-licker. We're gonna f*** your mothers while you watch and cry like little b******. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Paramount f**** who are making that movie, we're gonna make 'em eat our s***, then s*** out our s***, then eat their s*** which is made up of our s*** that we made 'em eat. Then you're all f****** next. -Jay & Silent Bob (It's so much funnier bleeped, isn't it?) Posted by: Kev Smith Wannabe at December 9, 2002 07:14 PMJust one little suggestion, Wil, if I may: Get yourself a copy of Yanni's most recent CD, "If I Could Tell You." It was recorded some time after his breakup with actress Linda Evans, and its music was unavoidably shaped to some extent by the emotions he felt in the aftermath. While I'm sure it would be a change from what you normally listen to, sometimes change is good, both musically and emotionally. Listening to Yanni's music on this particular CD might--just might--help you to begin picking up the pieces and moving on after this injury you've suffered. Sincerely, Damn, man! That just fucking sucks! I feel kinda bad about intisapating this movie now... But I gotsta see it. I've been a big TNG fan my intier life. I was brought up around it, sense my Mom is a big fan as well. Shit like this just makes me want to vomit. It sadens me to see how a member of the "Star Trek family" is treated this way. I'm sure you've heard this a lot, but it's true. Someone needs to put Rick in check. >:( Posted by: SpiderWebb at December 9, 2002 07:17 PMI'm not going to rub in the I'm sorry. I really am, but I personally hate people bringing it up over and over again. my friend, who has never even seen TNG (poor girl right?) well, I make her read your comments, and she read this one, and she said tell him "I love him." I thought I would share. and to tell you the truth, I only started watching when you were on the show, the other episodes it took me a while to get into. I hope the rest of the week is better than today. Posted by: Ang at December 9, 2002 07:17 PMI've got three words for you, Wil: How many celebrities do you know who would go out of their way to personally help one single fan? Not many. And how many celebrities do you know who could inspire dozens upon dozens of strangers around the world to do the same? Even fewer. You are an amazing person, Wil. I have thought this since I first saw TNG in it's first run. I think it even more now. You are warm, kind, honest, bloody hilarious, REAL ... and powerful. Yes, powerful. C'mon, we love you for a REASON. It hurts like a bitch, but you're not alone. And so long as you stay as cool as you are, you never will be. Anne and the boys are damn lucky. :) Like my friend Julie said (after I directed her this way): you seem like the kind of guy you'd wanna just hang out with. You bring the DVDs and the M&Ms (peanut, please), I'll bring the PS2 and the Kettle Corn. Party at Bonnie's house!! Posted by: Bonnie at December 9, 2002 07:22 PMThere's the part of me that really hopes that it was an oversight, but I'm inclined to believe that it was RFB being what so many posters before me have described with great zeal. I cannae blame them for their strong words one bit. As a young person who has only been into ST since September, it's been disheartening to know that this franchise I've come to love is ruled by a man like RFB. I, too, hope that the rest of the cast finds out and becomes pro-active in some way or another. Man does that suck. Real sorry about that, Wil. But what I really hate is that he lied to you to make you feel better. I hate it when people do that. You should make a book out of your blog. Really. Posted by: sharp at December 9, 2002 07:33 PMI get the feeling that tonight, somewhere in the universe, there's a metaphysical being looking at Rick Berman's Bad Karma counter, and as the numbers start blurring as they climb higher, the being is bugging it's eyes out and saying "Holy shit!" Posted by: Mike Sperry at December 9, 2002 07:33 PMI can't believe there'd ever come a day when I'd write something with the express purpose of making Wil Wheaton feel better. But ... how do I make this not sound cheesy ... One of the really cool things about this blog is it's a place for creative people to share triumphs and disappointments and all those weird idiosyncrasies that make us creative. Providing this place is truly a gift, so thank you. I’ve been on the outside of things a lot, too. It’s a hard feeling. No matter who you are. Completely fucked. If you want a pick me up, Film Threat (http://www.filmthreat.com) has Berman and the franchise on this year's "Frigid 50" list. I'd be hurt, too, but at least you're not on a sinking ship. Posted by: Forrest Gabitsch at December 9, 2002 07:33 PMWil. Wil. Wil. Mojo. Mojo. Mojo. Posted by: TFN-Chris at December 9, 2002 07:36 PMHey Wil, Totally fucked up for two reasons: 1) You were in the movie, albiet cut out and was told you would be invited to the premiere...which is the damn premiere, not a lot screening! 2) I was invited to the Mann Chinese premiere tonight (dont know if that was the fancy schmancy actor one but when I drove home, there was a helluva line of suits out there) and I wasnt in the movie. I'm glad I did'nt go, bastards! M.I.S. np: my fiancee playing his damn guitar in my ear Posted by: Music Industry Slave at December 9, 2002 07:36 PMWil, -Dan Posted by: Dan at December 9, 2002 07:43 PMHey Wil, Download a couple of dozen geo-caches and go find 'em. Posted by: schwa at December 9, 2002 07:47 PMShit happens. All i know is you need to look at this and know that you are AN AMAZING PERSON, and that THEY ARE MISSING OUT, NOT YOU. It all happens for a reason and Karma will catch up to them. You have to look at your life, your kids, your wife, YOUR NEW LAWN and realize that you are so far above this. Yeah it hurts, but its such a temporary thing. You know that you can move past this and that you have so much more going on in your life than this stupid premiere. SERIOUSLY WIL! Sometimes you find out the hard way who your real "friends" are and who the people are that really care about you. As much as it sucks, know that you are better off than they are. You are doing what makes you happy, you decided not to be "that guy" remember!? There have been so many times something like this has happened to me (granted it has nothing to do with being famous or what not) but you just have to know that maybe its best for you. No matter what kind of shit you got for being "Wil Wheaton, the guy people loved to hate" you have to know there are just as many people out there who still support you. I am 23 yrs old, i was like 9 when i had a crush on you and im still here! Isnt that what matters the most? FUCK PEOPLE LIKE THAT, YOU DONT NEED IT. WIL WHEATON IS BETTER THAN THAT. Use this night to be with your wife and kids, read a book, write some more, stare at your lawn. It all happens for a reason. Dont let something like this get you down, there are more important things in life than a premiere. Lisa Marie Wil, I have seen, in the theater, mostly opening weekend, every Star Trek movie out to date. Everyone save your movie dolor and go see Two Tower twice! Eric P.S. mojo mojo mojo Posted by: Eric at December 9, 2002 07:54 PMMan, I feel so bad for you Wil. I can imagine how shitty I would feel in your situation. I guess that the best thing to do is know that there are bigger and more important things in your life like your family. I know that I'm not really the one to be giving advice, not being in your position and all, but that's the best that I can do. I can see how it would be easy to think that Berman "masterminded" this all, but try not to make conclusions and let's hope that this is all just a coincidence. I can't think of any reason why he wouldn't want you at the premiere so it might just be that he had a lot on his mind. Also, even though you know none of us personally, I think, we do care about what happens to you from getting to know you in your daily writings. Your main source of support is still your family, but know that a lot of people out here are sending you Mojo. Sorry that this has sort of rambled on, but it just hit me how bad I would feel if I were in your position and I hope we have done a good job in consoling you. Posted by: Sean Mahoney at December 9, 2002 07:57 PMWil, I'm sorry. If you scroll up a little bit you'll find a Bob. In. Iowa. post by Bonnie. If you read these responses (and I hope that you do), go back, read that sucker again, and consider it from me too. I have come to hold the opinion that Berman is a quality example of a misleading fuckhead. But none of that matters, Wil, because I believe you're better than his kind. What have they got? A TV show? Good for them. You've got a wonderful wife, and a love that most dream of. You've got kids who love you and look up to you, even though they're not of your blood. You've got a devoted fanbase - not Wesley's..YOURS! We're in it for you, man. You've taken the time to let us get to know you, and we're all going to tell you the same: You're better. Don't worry. If you're not at their premier, it's their - sorry - loss. Hurt now, but not for long. You're onto better things. :) Posted by: Josh at December 9, 2002 07:59 PMMan, I feel so bad for you Wil. I can imagine how shitty I would feel in your situation. I guess that the best thing to do is know that there are bigger and more important things in your life like your family. I know that I'm not really the one to be giving advice, not being in your position and all, but that's the best that I can do. I can see how it would be easy to think that Berman "masterminded" this all, but try not to make conclusions and let's hope that this is all just a coincidence. I can't think of any reason why he wouldn't want you at the premiere so it might just be that he had a lot on his mind. Also, even though you know none of us personally, I think, we do care about what happens to you from getting to know you in your daily writings. Your main source of support is still your family, but know that a lot of people out here are sending you Mojo. Sorry that this has sort of rambled on, but it just hit me how bad I would feel if I were in your position and I hope we have done a good job in consoling you. Posted by: Sean Mahoney at December 9, 2002 07:59 PMDamnit, sorry I posted twice. Posted by: Sean Mahoney at December 9, 2002 08:00 PMWow. I just finished dinner (yummy enchiladas!) and checked in here, to see what's up. Boy, 84 comments, and all of the support from you guys is really kind, and wonderful, and very much appreciated. Thank you, everybody :) Posted by: wil at December 9, 2002 08:00 PMWil. The other night my friends Brett and Rob and I cooked ourselves a 7-course meal at Rob's house. We watched First Contact, and Brett, who is a Trekkie to the core, was raving about his excitement over Nemesis. I gave my usual response, which is "Nemesis will suck because Wesley was cut from it." That applies to the premiere, as well, which will suck because you weren't invited. Oh, Wil, go play with Ryan and eat chocolate ice cream. I know that won't help so much, but at least it's a start, right? People fucking suck. Remember your family and your monkeys love you. Man, I am so pissed I could run out there and lay the smack down on that guy. One time a couple of months ago I had this stalker, and my best guy friend's roommate Eddie, who fights in the UFC, offered to kick his ass for me. Eddie will go kick Rick's ass for you if we ask him. Want to? Your angry but stil-loving-you little monkey, Hey, I left out an L in "still-loving-you." Kind of like I meant to say "Stil loving Wil"...ok, ok, not funny. Sorry. Posted by: Angie at December 9, 2002 08:07 PMWil, I can't believe that they would do that to you. I cannot imagine how much they hurt you. The worst part is they probably don't even realize it. You can't let them keep getting to you like this. Sacrily enough not everyone that watched Star Trek hated you. Well I didn't anyway. It may have a lot to do with the fact that I was 10 yrs old and had a crush on you, but that's entirily besides the point. You keep moving on to bigger and better things. Don't let them hold you back. Posted by: Terra at December 9, 2002 08:07 PMMan, I was happy to hear you would be going. I was genuinely happy toleanr that you were going to hang out with the rest of the cast despite being cut. I was happy to learn that Rick said you would be going to the event. I was excited for you. I checked your site today to hoping to hear more good news, especially after reading about the Polar Express audition earlier today. What a shock it was to learn that you got snubbed again. I was really hoping to hear all about your experiences with the premiere. I'm very sorry. I could say it doesn't matter, but I know it mattered to you. All I can say is it's beyond your control, and you have a ton of fans, loving family, and friends. The experience just makes you a wiser man. Posted by: Travis Riggs at December 9, 2002 08:17 PMarg. verrrrrrrry tempted to go walk down to westwood and start a "where the hell is my wil wheaton????" riot. it would be the perfect finals distraction. hmm. is there a westwood/ucla contingent to the posse? it's been awhile since we've had some mischief over here... rick berman is the devil's skid marks. Posted by: indigo at December 9, 2002 08:21 PMUHM.....WOW. So much has already been said. Go with the crying, bud. That'll work. It's natural to feel hurt, but you know better than most that's how showbiz works; lies, shallowness, and no integrity. Too bad none of the others bothered to let you know either. At this point, you might as well wait a few months for the DVD. This has to be exacerbated by the fact it follows on the heels of the audition disappoinment. Not a good week so far. It's gotta get better. Posted by: Topeka Lee at December 9, 2002 08:27 PMGeez Wil, that's a tough break. Seriously, I don't understand how Hollywood can have such a corrupting effect on people. The cursed place seems to remove common decency from whomever comes in contact with it. Well, instead of lamenting over your exclusion from the premiere, be glad that you'll be bringing all this joy to your fans/friends this Christmas season with your autographed 8x10's. I know I'm looking forward to mine with great anticipation. All the best, Wil Judging by this review of a bootleg cut of the film, you might be happy you're not there ... http://www.filmjerk.com/reviews/nemesis.html Wil, I've posted on this before. But I just feel that I should now. You've been fucked over by Berman, and I'm sorry for that. No person deserves to be treated like the way you have been for the past 15 years. I know that you are saying that you are a writer/actor now, but I don't think I can post without saying that I truly believe that you are a great actor. Your character on ST was always my favorite. There was something about him, like the fact that he did manage to save the day, that just made me happy. Here was a kid who was bright/socially awkward, but he was doing amazing things. It just made me happy that this kid was doing these things, and it actually gave me more confidence to be smart and bright, and it actually led to my first boob-touching (I kid). So I thank you for that (the confidence, not the boob touching). And I can't really top any of the past advice that has been posted here, so I'll just repeat it (sorry about that) Bermans=asshole. But you can't dwell on that and you cannot let him own your feelings like he has. You might not have as much "power" as him, or as much "money" or as much "Hollywood" success, but you are by far the better person. So go get your 50,000 Monkeys and 50,000 typewriters and just be yourself, and make a difference, like you have already with me and hundreds, thousands, of others. Posted by: Jake Stern at December 9, 2002 08:30 PMWil, Some wise words for you dearie: When the pasts dust lies on the ground, And whilst we're on the subject of Rick Berman, I give you this ancient proverb from my homeland. Use it as a mantra to get you through the day..... "May the fleas of a thousand sheep, infest his armpits/groinal area" (delete as applicable). Posted by: Foxychik at December 9, 2002 08:31 PMOkay, somebody else is using "indigo" Heh, please add a "never" in the first sentence of my previous post. It should read "I've never posted on this before." And Berman still=asshole Posted by: Jake Stern at December 9, 2002 08:33 PMBerman is a HUGE, GIANT, MONDO goober! This dumb stunt he pulled just makes me believe even more he's a moron who couldn't be able to pull his head from his bum even if he had a road map! Next time the bastard wants something from you, sunddenly remember a urgent hair appointment! Fuck 'em, fuck 'em in the ear!! Posted by: Dee at December 9, 2002 08:34 PM*suddenly* remembered I can't spell! Posted by: Dee at December 9, 2002 08:36 PMI hate Rick Berman! Posted by: Jenny at December 9, 2002 08:39 PMHmm. Just dropped in, like I do occasionally, and Damn. wow....that really sucks...and to think that you were one of my favorite characters. Well here is all of my mojo for you to have. I hope it helps. I just wanted you to knoe that you are not alone, and you have more fans than Rick Berman could ever dream of. I think we should all complain to paramount. I bet we could get recognized. anyone have a web site in mind? Posted by: steoh at December 9, 2002 08:41 PMhey Wil, I just wanted to say sorry you got screwed out of seeing the screening. Spend some time with your family though and I know you will feel much better. Posted by: Blue at December 9, 2002 08:44 PMi boycott them. fuckers. Posted by: samalee at December 9, 2002 08:45 PMThere's nothing magic to say to make you feel better, Wil, but just think of how strong this makes you for the long haul. Posted by: robert berry at December 9, 2002 08:45 PMScrew that guy Rick! Screw the premiere!!! Invite your friends from the show to your house for a barbecue on your new lawn and don't invite Rick!!! You'll probably have more fun that way anyways Posted by: Kate at December 9, 2002 08:49 PMChin up, Wil. While the majority of us who post here aren't what you'ld call "close friends" (hell, half of us are just random folk and fans), we're all behind you. Wil Wheaton _does_ have a posse, and we're all with you. This equates to your friends telling you they don't want you at your own birthday party (which happened to me once), and is just plain wrong. Why people do this to you (intentional or not), I don't understand. He owes you a phone call and a good, honest explanation. Posted by: Eric at December 9, 2002 08:51 PMI'd have to agree with several previous posts - Trek has not been the same without you. It's annoying that in order to support something that we love (ie. the Trek-y goodness), we must support someone we loathe (ie. the devil's skid marks). I'm sure another "sorry" at this point may seem superfluous, but I mean it. You are an inspiration to me, both as an actor and a writer, and it sucks that this has happened to you again. Be hurt, be angry, be whatever you feel is necessary for you to get through this. Your monkeys are all supporting you. Posted by: skandrae at December 9, 2002 08:54 PMwil, the struggling actor, would most likely be upset at news like this. wil. the anger you're feeling, the hurt, the shock at being left out. and never.
heres a quick one. you just lost me. fuck you and your 'oversight' Posted by: Tyson at December 9, 2002 08:54 PMBut Wil Wheaton Rawks! MOJO to the man! Posted by: Jenny at December 9, 2002 08:55 PM*sends major caring mojo* Man, that totally sucks Wil. Wish we could all do something more, besides send ya caring & major mojo support. :) *drool* Enchiladas sound really good... :) Posted by: Moonie at December 9, 2002 08:55 PMReading through the comments, something else occured to me. The best advice, the best comfort anyone ever gave me was this: When all else fails, write a book. It's the best revenge of all. Looks like you've already got your revenge. Posted by: Clara at December 9, 2002 08:55 PM"Berman is the devil's skid marks." Best. Insult. Evar. I am in awe. I applaud. Wil, I already e-mailed you, but look above this -- over 100 people writing to say "We're in your corner." I'd be willing to bet that Rick Berman doesn't have 100 people sending the mojo. I can't believe you let Ryan watch "Sabrina the Teenaged Witch." *Shudder* Posted by: isabel at December 9, 2002 08:57 PMI think you are being too hard on yourself. Really what is the big deal? You are the only one who knows who you really are. Why is a guy like you going to let an asshole ruin your day? Wil....Have some integrity. Pick yourself up, dust off your boots and hit the streets! I think you are cool even though we disagree politically. There isn't a single person who wouldn't agree with me on this. I really am not a Star Trek fan but I like your personality so quit being such a wus and make new contacts. To hell with the ELITE. You need to re-invent what it is that you see yourself as and not what everybody else sees you as. Just my opinion. I am Pete from 8bitjoystick.com And I just wanted you to know that I am a buddy of Jakes....who is a really cool person. I sure hope that you stop this TIRADE that your on and get back on the proverbial horse. This guy really sounds like an A-HOLE and I dont understand why it should matter to you. Good luck. We all need it sometimes. Posted by: pete at December 9, 2002 08:58 PMOh, yeah, and -- it's THEIR loss (Berman's, everyone's) too and they don't even know it. Thoughtless or purposeful -- either way it's ignorance. Posted by: isabel at December 9, 2002 08:59 PMBuck up, I think they are probably saving Wesley for the sequel to the mess this film appears to be from all the negative reviews so far. Hey, Riker and Troi will be gone, Data's gone to android heaven (maybe), momma Bev's gone- who are they gonna call to save Picard's aging ass in the next film? Worf's getting pretty gray even for a Klingon. Geordi is a great engineer, but not really the action figure type. Who will they gonna call? Wesley, The Boy(-ish) Wonder, that's who! "Star Trek 11: The Generation After Next" Rick Berman is rotting hogshit. Remind me to bring a crate of rotten eggs to his next appearance. >:( Posted by: Gwalchmai at December 9, 2002 09:06 PMJust goes to show you what "friends" are like in Hollywood. If Brent, Patrick or ANY of the others put their foot down and said, "Rick, you had better make sure that Wil is at the premier, or I might be getting the flu that day," he WOULD be at the premier. Instead, they look out only for themselves... Posted by: Richard Brown at December 9, 2002 09:10 PMWil: Everyone knows Berman is a 'blow hole', but I can understand your disappointment. Only a schmeg like him would shine you on the way he did and then screw you over tonight. Oh well, live and learn. I wish you the best and hope things turn around. At least you know all of us are here every day keeping you company. Scott P.S. Wes was ALWAYS one of my favorite characters -- you do have fans out here, you know... Posted by: E. Scott Heinis at December 9, 2002 09:10 PMJust another (((((HUG))))) from a BIG TIME Star Trek Geek. (I even dress-up at the cons). My husband and I have decided not to see the movie now. We were almost at that point when they cut you, one of our favorite character. But after this, it's just not an option anymore. Maybe if they put you on the DVD we'll buy it, but otherwise, no way. I hope you know how hearfelt all these comments in here are. We all really enjoy your blog and feel like we know you and Anne and the boys like some kind of distant relative. You touch a lot of people. People like Berman have no real heart to touch. Feel Better. Posted by: Patchy at December 9, 2002 09:13 PMThat just plain sucks. There is no other way to put it. Sounds like it might be time to fucking REGULATE! Phoenix is only 4 hours away from LA if I drive like I always do. Give me the word and I'll hop in my sled and well go bust a ca- ... er ... have a conversation ... with that piece of sh- ... er ... Rick Berman. Posted by: kevin at December 9, 2002 09:15 PMFuckin' cocksuckers. Posted by: Patton L. Zarate at December 9, 2002 09:15 PMMan if there is any one who deserved a warm cup of vomit ala Harlan Ellison style it's that asshat. Wil you deserve better but like some of the people that have typed before me- Star Trek is the past. Don't look back. Hoping my mojo helps to dent the hurt you're feeling. -K You probably won't read this far down the list, but what happened to you has stuck in my craw all night. You deserve better, and my only thought is to remember how you feel at this moment. Remember how you feel next time they want you for something, be it a convention, a cruise, etc. Remember what they did to you, and don't do them the favor of taking what scraps they throw you. I know you talk about the revolving door, but perhaps it's time to walk through it one last time, and nail it shut behind you. AC Posted by: Arnie C at December 9, 2002 09:18 PMIs there anyway we can e-mail Rick Bergman and complain? Posted by: Angellwwolf at December 9, 2002 09:23 PMSounds to me as if we need to substitute the word "fuck" with the word "Berman" from now on in the English Language.(I realize, though, that this could be a case of shooting the messenger....) Wil, I think it's terrible, and echo many who've said much the same already tonight. You've got a lot that is good and right in your life, and both of your careers are moving forward. I think what I'm surprised at is not just that the character you played hasn't had any storyline closure, but also that not one of your former castmates thought of calling you tonight and making sure you were there with them. (I do hope that doesn't make this worse) The character you played was a part of the main cast, and as such deserves inclusion, as do you. I think it's a shame that this has happened. It does not reflect well upon Paramount, Star Trek, or Berman and others guiding this. However you have a loving wife, a great family, and as I said before - your careeer(s) are going forward. I know this hurts, let yourslef feeling and then put it away. You seem to have a lot - cherish it, and let all else pass away. K. It's a damn shame, really. The more I read from you and Robert Beltran, and the more episodes of Enterprise I see...the more Rick Berman makes me want to throw up. Sorry...I've tried to be a faithful good little Trek fan, but what he does to you, what he did to Voyager, and what he's doing to Enterprise just isn't right. How much longer are we expected to tolerate it? Posted by: Kelly at December 9, 2002 09:31 PMReality check. Did you think the red carpet premiere was really going to be at Paramount? Besides, you'd have shown up with blue hair and a Popeye arm. Had you been photographed on the red carpet, you surely wouldn't get invited to Tom Hanks' next picture. What was it that Brent invited you to Europe for? You should use his cell number and give that man a call. Bermen's a snake, as you've seen. And it sucks to hurt Wil, but you can't let this get you down too much. You have to just accept it, and move on, and the next time Bermen asks you to go on an episode of Enterprise or save Picard from some wretched alien scum - ask him where your premiere tickets next to Levar and Patrick are. When he looks at you in that odd "what is he talking about?" way - don't bother explaining - instead stomp on his foot and steal his wallet and then run away. Serves the man right for kicking my childhood idol out of my favorite television series by making him some sort of indian traveler and not a ensign on DS9. So sigh your last sigh, and wipe up those tears. You got to think of an appropriate line of obscenities for the next time you see Berman. --Alex C. Schaefer Are you sure the screening is Wednesday? I was supposed to go tomorrow (Tuesday). Posted by: Jess Heinig at December 9, 2002 09:41 PMIn honor of my solidarity, i'm about to go dye my hair blue. Can't get you out of the hole unless we're in the hole with you. And when people ask why my hair is blue, i shall say, "Cause Rick Berman's an ASS!" and walk away triumphantly as people stare me down, worried about my mental health. Now, to finish the job, i just gotta find some poison oak. Again, i say it: mojo. mojo. mojo. Everybody now! Posted by: TFN-Chris at December 9, 2002 09:46 PM#1 Star Trek X isn't a "must see" for me anymore. I hate learning that people behind a product are assholes. #2 Have your own premiere. Tell us where and when and you can bet a bunch of us show up. Posted by: Rotwang at December 9, 2002 09:50 PMOn the up-side, The Girl's Room is on Showtime Women tonight... I missed the screenings in LA and it's so far just great. Kudos on this project... Posted by: Kath at December 9, 2002 09:50 PMI'm sorry, but the only thing that can be said here is that Rick Berman's a c*cksucker. That's about the extent of it. Posted by: Janis at December 9, 2002 09:50 PMDamn the man Wil...damn the man! There is nothing I can say to make the pain go away. Everyone knows the feeling of being left out of something important. Just as Rick Berman will feel when you do not mention his name in any of your acceptance speeches when you one day win an Academy Award. I agree with Skeptic...buy the suit and burn it..lol. My prayers for you and your hurt feelings! "You still remember, Rick Berman --I cannot help but be touched. I, of course, remember you." "What is the meaning of this blog attack? What happened to your William F**King Shatner T-shirts?" "Surely I've made my meaning plain, Rick. I mean to avenge myself upon you, Berman. I have deprived your limp, failing Star Trek franchise of power and when I swing around I mean to deprive you of future stupid TNG sequels entailing B-9's Katra...But I wanted you to know first who it was who had beaten you!" "Wil, if it's me you want, I'll have myself appear as a cameo on Enterprise dressed like a female Ferengi...spare my legal entourage!" "I'll make you a counter-proposal. I'll agree to your terms if....IF, in addition to the cameo, you create for me a Star Trek TNG spin-off series called, "Wesley loves the Traveler," chronicalling the growing superpowers I'd developed in that American Indian, peyote-laden episode that sucked so bad!" "The Traveler? Who is that?" "Don't insult my intelligence, Berman." "Give me some time to recall the casting agents for our next search." "I give you 60 seconds, Berman...." I doubt Rick has enough free time to factor in the human element into most of the things he thinks and does (I don't know the guy, but I know the type.) That's no excuse for excluding you, but for alot of people a promise is another thing to forget to enter into a calendar. Forget about it. You were cool on Star Trek, (real) people liked you, and you made your mark on that universe. Your real friends will probably wonder where you were at the premire, but such is life. Go to the Wednesday premire and be grateful that you can even go to such things (we can't go to that.) Then go to the movie with your kids and wife on Friday and enjoy it again! (That's better than a premire anyway... assuming you wait until school's out this time. :-) ) Posted by: wadetemp at December 9, 2002 10:06 PMRick Berman sucks. It is, however, my sincere belief that by continuing to screw both you and ST fans like this over and over again, he is shooting himself in the foot. He is simply promoting the further decline of the franchise, and the decline of the franchise means the decline of Rick Berman. Here's to hoping that after this movie tanks there will be an internal power struggle within Paramount resulting in the demise of said Rick Fucking Berman. Posted by: yodelingwerty at December 9, 2002 10:08 PMI know it's hard today, and I know you know that there's more important things in life. I hope you can put this in the past sooner than later. Posted by: KB at December 9, 2002 10:08 PMI wish I could say that I am surprised by I am not. Why he treats you that way is beyond me, but you do have the power to stop it. Refuse to let him get to you anymore. Just let the whole thing go. If he is going to act like a little shit then let him. If he tries to call you to get you to call off the attacking hordes at his gates (and you know that is what we will all do) don't take the call, or take the call and tell him to his face that you know his game and you are changing the rules! Let him know that you know exactly what kind of two face bastard he his. Tell him that you are no longer concerned with him or his projects and that if his conduct has gotten him into trouble then he can get himself out of trouble with the fans. Then hang up in his ear and be done with the sorry S.O.B.. There are pleanty of us who are interested in your current projects and genuine good fortune. If that is not enough then think about this. a simple note to let you know that you will always stand out to me... and you would be sorely missed were I there! Posted by: amancay at December 9, 2002 10:18 PMI know a few people who got a hold of the finished script for the movie as well. Apparently it reads like bad fanfic and I mean REALLY bad fanfic. Guess that's what you get when you hire people who know nothing about the show to write. Trust me, Wil, you don't want a shit stain like this movie on your resume. Inuki Posted by: Inuki at December 9, 2002 10:21 PMHere's the Boycott Nemesis site: PLEASE--if you want to participate in the boycott, link the site and email me: lain@dangerousideas.org so I can compile a list. I'll need your full name, city and state so I can send this list to Rick Fucking Berman when the Nemesis run is over. Let's let him know exactly how much his pocketbook depends on Wil Wheaton and his loyal fans. Solidarity! Damn. =o( Man, Wil, Im sorry that they keep treating you this way. It isnt fair and you have every right to be there at the screening with your friends!! This angers me. I know what its like to be left out of things on purpose. I dont know what else to say. *sends Wil BIG HUGS* I hope that makes you feel a little better. Posted by: GreenEyes The Official CAT of Violence at December 9, 2002 10:24 PMHey Wil, Everybody has bad days sometimes, but it all has to balance out eventually, right? Today sucked a whole lot, so sometime soon -- maybe tomorrow, maybe someday next week -- you've got a REALLY GOOD DAY coming... Lisa Posted by: Lisa at December 9, 2002 10:35 PMF*@& 'em...it's their loss...you kick @$$...never forget that... Posted by: Frell at December 9, 2002 10:42 PMWow... I've come to the website before (it's really hip and groovy ^_^ ) so when a friend told me I had to check and see the latest entry, I thought it might be something just as amazing. Clara, Your site has been submitted to Fark under the Wheaton tag. Let's hope it gets through! :) Inuki Posted by: Inuki at December 9, 2002 10:50 PMI'm not sure if Wil will see this here so ill email it to him as well. Boycotting the movie wont succeed very well because I think people really do want to see this movie, and im not going to let the actions of one man stop me from enjoying the work of the hard work actors/actresses that worked on the film. However somthing does need to be done. So I'll take somthing away from the studio and Rick Berman that wont hurt the cast to much. Some of the more important numbers that mean alot in the film industry are the grossing amounts for the first weekend. So, what I'm suggesting is not seeing it on opening weekend. Wait a week or so. Maybe being below some crappy movie on its opening weekend will get Rick Bermans eyes open. Posted by: bust0aster at December 9, 2002 10:57 PMi never liked that Berman asshole. now i positively hate his fucking guts. what a big goddamn jerk. who stole the soul [out of ST]? Rick Berman, that's who. Posted by: transmothra at December 9, 2002 11:00 PMmost people have said what I wanted to say...so.... ::HUGS:: Posted by: Ruthie at December 9, 2002 11:01 PMWil: Go, Wil!!! Go, Wesley!!! Posted by: Scott T at December 9, 2002 11:06 PMIt's funny... I think that to most of us, Rick Berman is just a name. But Wil Wheaton is a person that we care about. In reality, we don't really know either of them... I mean, although you are real and open, and let us know who you are for real, you don't know any of us. You may know that I called you a bastard for 6 months straight, but that's about it. Oh yeah, I'm persistant too. My point is... Okay, I don't know what my point is. It just strikes me as funny how everyone hates Berman... We don't even know if it was intentional.... It better not be *shakes fist* -Jeffery Posted by: Jeffery Borchert at December 9, 2002 11:07 PMMan. Talk about rotten. I think lots of us have been in similar situations. You're hopped up for a big deal with friends, an important gathering, and at the last minute, you find out you've been stabbed in the back. I admit it, I was disappointed too when hearing about the cuts made, and your scene was amongst them. This is untenable though. It appears to me that, even though Gene had significantly less power as the years went by, after his death, the Trek management has become much less human, much less caring, much less focused on the important things, and much more focused on milking the Star Trek saga for their own personal gain and power plays. And because of all this, I'm becoming more and more torn about my own loyalty to the franchise. I feel we're being used, and folks like you are getting shafted for no reason. This is REALLY cheap of B&B to do. But, to be honest, I'll not be surprised if Braga had something to do with it. Brannon Braga is one of the worst things to happen to ST. Maybe this needs to be publicised, and become a rallying point ot get the Fandom to speak up against this increasing arrogance. Braga must go, and damnit, you deserved to be at that premier just as much as anyone. I wrote you an email to which you did reply (albeit breif, it was cool!), and I'll repeat one part, one of the best episodes of STTNG was "Final Misson". It was a watershed moment for Wes _and_ for Picard, and that episode's legacy, I think, had an effect on the character of Picard ever since, including in this film (a lot here, from the plot I have seen). Lastly, look at it this way, we all like you a lot more than we like B&B. :) Posted by: jesus_X at December 9, 2002 11:08 PMIt sucks just as much that Wesley isn't even in this movie. I miss him and want to know what he's been up to. Oh well. I hope you crashed the premier. Nobody would turn you away. Posted by: John at December 9, 2002 11:14 PMI don't know what to say. A friend just gave me this link and said read it and I just can't believe anyone could be so rude and cruel. You're the reason I got hooked on Trek, which has lost a lot of its goodness, but you're still awesome. And I'm boycotting Nemesis, I've got better things to do with my money. Good luck and follow your dreams and don't listen to the corporate asses, what do they know about what we like anyway. Be happy and know that you've got a lot of people out there who will be angry for you and show Berman proof of what he's lost by not having you there. Be well and find some happiness in this mess. Posted by: Kate at December 9, 2002 11:15 PMI'm not sure there are words to express how sorry and pissed I am. Sorry that the bastard is treating you the way he does, and pissed that he's such a child for behaving that way. To this day you are one of my favorite characters on STNG, and I was really looking forward to seeing you in Nemesis. Well, I'm sure you know that there are lots of fans out there like me who wish you well, so here's hoping things look up. Posted by: Michelle at December 9, 2002 11:15 PMReading that reminded me of that painful yet all-too-familiar feeling. That they would do that, and on the last TNG movie to boot... that's just unfair and uncalled for. My biggest anticipation for this film was that your character would be back, then they cut your scenes. And now, this happens to you... Damn, I'm really sorry, Wil. I was always part of the crowd that liked Wesley, and when I found this site, I was wowed by how much cooler you are off camera. Best of luck, man. And for those who want to boycott the movie opening weekend: Here's one better. Wait longer, until it comes out on video, then rent. The movie store gets your money, the studios don't see any of what you pay to rent. (just what the rental places paid for the movies, so the more or less you rent doesn't change that) Posted by: Gus at December 9, 2002 11:28 PMas many have said before me: this really sucks. Even if it's not personal, Rick needs to personally apologise. You were an intagral part of the cast. Bugger this "ship is the star of the show" crap Posted by: The Silent E at December 9, 2002 11:36 PMAlright, to all you non-believers. I've had that site up just over an hour and already I have 26 names. Keep at it, let's make this work. Also, *please* take the time to check out the main site (though it is much in progress) as there are two other important causes on the front page. If we can do it for Wil Wheaton, we can do it for workers in Colombia. Wil, you rock. Solidarity! So Rick is a filthy, smarmy little liar. Big surprise. Smooth finish over cold design. His kind are all the same. Bitten once, I wouldn't let him bite again. Posted by: White Russian at December 9, 2002 11:43 PMHey Wil, Don't know if you read this far down the list, but I really felt the need to add my two cents. Only one thing came to mind as I read your entry this evening. Sympathy. After reading through *all* of the comments, I've thought of something else. Trek has been, for me, an example of how high humanity can become. I was always more drawn to the "morality" and "character-driven" stories than the purely action-filled pieces. Guess that's why I preferred Insurrection to First Contact.... Anyway, my point is, instead of being all vengeful (which, I can understand, is a perfectly natural reaction), take the high ground. Face it, bitching Berman out is not going to accomplish anything. Think of what Trek originally stood for, when Gene was still alive. All of this crap is just an example of how much more important it is for all of us to work towards his (Gene's) vision. "This too shall pass." Until then, you have my sympathy. Em Posted by: Em at December 9, 2002 11:55 PMIf it's any consolation whatsoever, I know exactly how you feel. I've been on the receiving end of a *very* similar call (though the non-invite was to a party, nothing near as swanky as a movie premiere) and--damn, it hurts. Have some mojo. My only reason for wanting to see this movie was the return of Wesley. Wil, when I heard you were cut, my entire family changed their plans. This just cements that change. Posted by: palmetto at December 9, 2002 11:57 PMHey Wil, the premiere is tonite! Make sure to be there... I can arrange someone to drive you here if you need it. Give me a call, I tried your numbers a few time, but they wouldn't go through. -Rick. Posted by: Rick Berman at December 10, 2002 12:06 AMI think a whole lotta monkeys and fellow travellers have said everything I want to say ... I hope esp. for you that Rick forgot or some other such VIP Mgt. oversight crap ( they do that like all of us but somehow they make it nastier because of their smarmy follow ups ) and not intentionally dissing you. You are happily married, and your careers are largely devoted to play. Gene Roddenberry vouched for you professionally, and LeVar Burton and Jonathan Frakes within the last year, and you came through for them -- creatively, where it counts. This places you in the high-percentile minority of wealth in this country. People will try to break you. Don't let them. Posted by: Mike at December 10, 2002 12:50 AMThis pisses me of! It really do ! I am one of them who thought Wesely was cool. They are now once again offending me as well as Wil. Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2002 12:50 AMWelp, I think im skipping out on the movie now...if Berman doesnt give a shit about those in the trek family...you can tell he doesnt give a crap about the audience. Posted by: Bryan at December 10, 2002 12:54 AMI was just reminded, 150+ comments later, by my mother that this type of shabby behavior is really only displaying the character of who's doing it, and not you. Even though it probably still hurts. And secondly, I hope you're going anyway. Seriously - who's going to say "No Wil, you can't come in." No one. You deserve to be there just as much as the rest of them do, in my opinion. Posted by: Pandaman at December 10, 2002 12:56 AMWil, I'll join everyone else here in sympathizing with you and sending mojo your way; it's either incredibly thoughtless or incredibly heartless (dependent upon whether your omission from the screening was intentional) of Berman to do that to you. As much as this meant to you, though, let me try to put it into perspective for you: Rick Berman is nothing without Star Trek. If this is truly the last TNG film (which would be a shame, rant to follow), I predict a dramatic downturn in his career. Consider: DS9 has never had a film released in theatres. Voyager has never had a film released in theatres. Enterprise is not likely to have a movie released in theatres, not anytime in the near future. TNG has had a tremendous following, largely due to the FOUR Trek films featuring its cast. If this is the last TNG film, it'll take a miracle (read: the reincarnation of Gene Roddenberry) to bring about new interest in the franchise. The fan base, albeit one of the largest in the world, will stagnate and perhaps dwindle down to a core of die-hard Trekkies. He may not realize it, but without TNG, Berman is nothing. You are more than Wesley Crusher. You are more than Gordie Lachance, Joey Trotta, Dick Smith, and the co-host of Arena. You will continue to act, to write, to create, to inspire. Rick Berman took Gene Roddenberry's work -- a PREEXISTING CONCEPT -- and molded it into his image. He has no completely original works to his credit. If DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise didn't have the Star Trek tag, they would have gone the way of Babylon 5 much faster than they did/will. Attending that premiere would've been a great chance to look back and remenisce, but keep that fact firmly in mind: you'd be looking BACK. Not ahead. It's certainly normal to feel slighted and even backstabbed, but don't let yourself wallow in it; that would be doing yourself a huge disservice. People can be extremely callous. Rick Berman seems to be insensitivity made flesh. You know what, though? Fuck 'em. You're better than that. Everyone else here knows that. Somewhere inside, Berman knows that, too. If nothing else, Wil, remember this: Rick Berman has yes-men. Wil Wheaton has a posse. Posted by: Jesse at December 10, 2002 12:57 AMWil, I just hope you will get a chance to get together with your TNG friends soon. Berman taking this opportunity away - that's a crime. Posted by: tc at December 10, 2002 01:02 AMFirst time I'm posting, Wil. Man, it does kind of suck, but you do get the karmic returns. You're doing right, being graceful and stuff - and good things will come of it. Count up the good things that are going on in your life. The movie premiere might h | |||