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December 09, 2002

Sadtimes

One of my old spacesuits is being auctioned off on eBay. I'm not sure why, but it makes me feel a little sad.

I'm sitting here, about to write a little entry about it, when my phone rings. It's a friend of mine, asking me if I'm going to the Star Trek X screening.

"Yeah, on Wednesday," I tell him.

"No, it's tonight," he tells me.

"Tonight? At Paramount?"

"No, it's in Westwood, tonight," he tells me, "I just talked with Marina about it."

Oh no.

That feeling I have gotten so many times before, when I was the only cast member not asked up on stage at the 25th anniversary party, when I was the only cast member not recognized at the screening of "All Good Things..." begins to well up. I feel a little sick.

He wouldn't do this to me, right? Not now, not after the conversations we had when I was working on the movie, not since the phone call informing me of the cut. This must be a mistake. Past is the past, right? We're cool now. There is no way he'd exclude me from this.

But he did.

He did it to me again.

I want to cry.

I tell my friend that I have to go, and hang up the phone.

I sit there alone and cold in the kitchen. I can hear Ryan watching Sabrina The Teenage Witch in the living room.

I can't believe this is happening to me. When Rick told me that my scenes were cut, he assured me that I'd still be invited to the premiere, and that he'd see me there. I was excited to see all my friends again, and share in those moments with them. Be a part of what will really be the final mission.

It turns out that the screening I was invited to will be at Paramount on Wednesday, and pretty much anyone who works at Paramount can attend. It's not the premiere, and none of the cast are going. There's really nothing special about it.

I seriously, desperately hope that this was just an oversight. I desperately hope that this is totally out of Rick's hands, and that he'll tell me that he's sorry if it ever comes up. I desperately hope this isn't personal. I want so badly to believe that it isn't. It sucks to be overlooked, but it sucks less than if I'd been intentionally not invited.

It sure fits a pattern though, huh?

I just -- I don't know what to do. I don't even know how to feel anymore.

But I'll go with hurt for now.

Really, really fucking hurt.

Posted by wil at December 9, 2002 03:52 PM
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Comments

It's such a terrible feeling to be left out. You should just look at your family and put it out of your mind. The worst thing is to dwell. Feel Better!

Posted by: Erin G. at December 9, 2002 05:23 PM

Oh, Wil. I'm so sorry. I don't even know what to say, other than I think it's really fucking unfair the way you keep getting treated, over and over again.

:(

Posted by: Angie at December 9, 2002 05:25 PM

I'm sorry. I was disappointed to hear that your scenes had been cut. My friends and I always felt that you were an important part of the show.
I know it doesn't make up for it, but remember that you have a lot of fans who think that you are not only a talented actor, but someone who is also a cool person.

Posted by: Rebecca at December 9, 2002 05:25 PM

ouch.

but think about it, who cares about a movie premier when you will someday be invited to one of my gallery openings! and the exclusive party, too. ooooohhhh. can't pass that up.

Posted by: the green sarah at December 9, 2002 05:29 PM

Yah... Rick Fucking Berman. The man who keeps gays out of Star Trek.

Posted by: Jake at December 9, 2002 05:29 PM

it's easy for people to tell you 'screw them all - don't think about it'... but it's not that easy is it? it's really hurtful and cruel of them to treat you the way they do.
just look at all the comments you get on here every day, and know that there are tons of people who do care. you were my favourite part of the show, by far. so, although it's too easy... screw them all.

Posted by: Katy at December 9, 2002 05:30 PM

Oh geez...

Is there any way to impeach Berman?

Wil, man, that sucks. I was going to say "I feel sorry for you", but having someone "feel sorry" for you sucks even more. So let's just say we recognize the suckiness, hope you're feeling better soon, and know that karma-wise, this is gonna come around in the end.

Just remember, Wil. He may have Star Trek, he may have beaucoup Paramount bucks, he may even have the ability to screw people, but you've got something he doesn't have, and never ever will.

Monkeys.

Puts it all into perspective, don't it?

Posted by: Traska at December 9, 2002 05:30 PM

I think i'll sum this up real easy

Dood, that just sucks.

It's that simple.
But you know what. It is thier loss that they dont get to enjoy your company.
You atleast get to enjoy your family's company and the knowledge that your not wesley crusher. Your Wil Wheaton writer/actor. not actor.

Posted by: Denise at December 9, 2002 05:31 PM

That just sucks. I don't suppose you can just crash the party, huh?

Pheh. The man isn't worth the electronic bits I'd use flaming his sorry butt to a crisp.

Go look out the window on your beautiful green lawn, hug your family, and trust that your fans will flame any dorks who obviously underestimate you.

We love you, Wil.

(wanders off, in search of multiple addresses to send honest little holiday greetings to Mr. Berman telling him exactly what I think of him)

Posted by: Adele Shakal at December 9, 2002 05:31 PM

Sorry to hear about this Wil. I know how it feels to be left out. Makes ya want to head over to bermans house with some eggs and TP, but that wouldn't really solve the problem. Might make you feel better, but doesn't solve the fact that he's a snake and that you need to look past working on Trek and move on to bigger and better things.

Posted by: Scott at December 9, 2002 05:32 PM

Don't let the bastards get to you Wil.

You should go, and walk right up to the bastard and thank him for inviting you.

I'm always available for some arm breaking or some knee-capping.

Fetus.

Posted by: scraping fetus off the wheel at December 9, 2002 05:33 PM

Oh, Wil. I'm so sorry. You are too good of a person to have this continually happen to you! :(

K

Posted by: KB at December 9, 2002 05:34 PM

That fucker. I'm getting tired of Rick Berman's shit. I've never heard a name more winced at when it comes up at conventions.

Believe it or not, Wil, we are with you. I can't get you to Westwood tonight, but i can at least offer solace in our appreciation for who you are and what you do. //fist held high

Stein Auf!

Posted by: Chris - TFN at December 9, 2002 05:35 PM

Ya, my vote is for taking him on his word and showing up. Screw the "oversight".

Posted by: synchronicity at December 9, 2002 05:35 PM

I think you should make "Hello My Name is Rick FUCKING Berman" T-shirts.

Posted by: Jake at December 9, 2002 05:36 PM

*hug*

Posted by: Kaihea at December 9, 2002 05:36 PM

I'm sorry that this happened to you. Being left out hurts. Period. Go ahead and cry tonight. Tomorrow, put yourself back together and try not to let your anger take over.

Posted by: Bombay at December 9, 2002 05:36 PM

I don't think I would go if I were you. The point was for you to go and be with your friends and the other cast members wasn't it? They really screwed you. Hopefully it was an oversight. Believe it or not you were always my favorite on TNG. You are my age and you were the smartest one on the ship. I admired that and admire you more now.

Posted by: Jeff M. at December 9, 2002 05:36 PM

dood. that royally sucks arse.
I bet dollars to donuts that if your friends in the cast knew you weren't invited, they'd be pissed off too, yo.
so spike your egg nog tonite, sit by the fireplace (if you have one) and remember that we readers are all here for you.

Posted by: courtney at December 9, 2002 05:36 PM

Dude, that's harsh... Of course, he could have invited, then neglected to tell anyone else, leaving you stranded with security on the wrong side of the velvet rope... I know it's not much comfort, but something tells me the audition earlier might turn out better than you thought...

Posted by: Brian at December 9, 2002 05:36 PM

I would like to say something heartwarming and
supportive but the best I can do is............


(((((((((((Hugs)))))))))))

This is for you Wil.

ColleenS

Posted by: ColleenS at December 9, 2002 05:37 PM

Late last week, I am grocery shopping for my grandmother; Grandmary a pure Trekkie, through and through. I see the Special Edition TV Guide with Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner on the cover. I buy it for her, because I know she'll want to keep it and add it to her other TV Guides with Trek on the cover. And miscellaneous other trek things I got her.

Cut too... My Mother comes over... She's looking at the Tv Guide, she flips right to the article and then she looks up and looks directly at me. "Is Wil in it? Wheaton?"

"No. He was cut out."

"WHAT!" Totally appalled. Totally mad. "Well what the...."

I try to console her. "He'll be in the DVD Special Edition I am sure..."

She grumbles more.

Grandmary adds in her two cents. "I wasn't happy to hear about that either. Now do we need something special to play the DVD."

Bizarre conversation trying to explain DVDs to my grandmother -- all because we have to see Wesley Crusher!!!!

Frankly, if some PTB idiot wants to screw you over and be a moron, and not GET what Wesley and you are to the the History and COlor of Star Trek it means nothing. Because everyone else who isn't making the stupid decisions would have you there in a heartbeat and personally I think we are more important.

Rachel (whose mother also admitted to not being in love with Patrick Stewart and totally shocked her. She liked everyone else better, so there you go. My Mom loves you more than Patrick Stewart. LOL)

Posted by: Rachel at December 9, 2002 05:39 PM

No way Wil, just no way. There's no way that he could have done this to you.

...

And as I think that over in my head, I know it's not true. But from what happened before, it seems so unlikely that he intentionally left you out. I guess all we can do is wait and see. I hope it's not as bad as it looks, because you sure as hell don't deserve it.

Posted by: Pandaman at December 9, 2002 05:40 PM

Yeah If I were you Wil I would CRASH IT AND ATTEND ANYWAY! I mean call up some other Cast members what are they going to do turn you down at the door?

Crash It Crash IT Crash It Crash IT Crash It Crash IT

Posted by: Jake at December 9, 2002 05:47 PM

Fuck them and the starship they blasted into space with!!!!

YOU HAD AN AUDITION WITH ROBERT ZEMECKIS AND TOM HANKS TODAY!!!

I say you buy that damn spacesuit and burn it.

Posted by: skeptic at December 9, 2002 05:48 PM

All that and you misspelled the word pattern. ("patern") Man. You did have a sucky day.

Posted by: Nils at December 9, 2002 05:51 PM

Wil-
thanks for the times of your life that you share on this site. I'm a struggling writer. Even though you are younger than me I look up to you; you inspire me. Screw Rick Effing Berman and his pea sized......oh, brain. Sue

Posted by: Sue at December 9, 2002 05:52 PM

Wil,

It hurts, and it hurts bad. Just know this: neither what they did, nor your hurt, have nothing to do with you, now. Hurts this big come from the past (want a journal topic? when was the first time you felt a hurt like this?). Actions of other people have nothing whatsoever to do with who you are - it has to do with who *they* are.

You are such a talented writer, and it really pains me to think of you wasting emotional energy feeling left out of something as relatively small and fleeting as TNG. Don't get me wrong - I'm a fan and all that (every night on TNN) - but it is such a small thing compared to the world at large.

You can make a big impact, and have nothing to do with that crowd. You're missing the future when you look back at the past.

Posted by: muhead at December 9, 2002 05:53 PM

I wish I knew some magic words for you. There are none. But I will give you the words my mother gave to me (as an adult) when facing a similar situation..."Fuck 'em!"

Posted by: Rick at December 9, 2002 05:54 PM

D'oh!

Stupid spelling.

Thanks for the support, everybody.

Posted by: wil at December 9, 2002 05:55 PM

berman - biggest. jerk. ever.

Posted by: contessa at December 9, 2002 05:56 PM

That just totally sucks.

I hate people that say "yeah, I'm going to do this, I'm going to invite you here, you'll be included" yada, yada, and then they pull shit like this.

If I were you, I would make something of this... show the world what an ass Rick really is. I don't think I am even going to go see the movie now!

Posted by: Chellester at December 9, 2002 05:56 PM

8-(
I kept reading and hoping it was a bad joke on your friend's part. I don't think you should crash the party: I'm positive the rest of the cast will give him HELL for not inviting you.

Posted by: MrSpock at December 9, 2002 05:56 PM

That bastard.

Posted by: jtdarby at December 9, 2002 05:59 PM

Wil,

I just can't believe they keep pulling this f*cking bullshit. It really pisses me off. I was always a loyal Star Trek fan and you'd think that what we (the fans) consider important would count for something. Apparently it doesn't. I don't know why I am surprised being a confirmed cynic and all, but it still really pisses me off. I am swearing off Star Trek altogether in protest for the shitty way they have treated you. Screw Them!

~fenaray

Posted by: fenaray at December 9, 2002 05:59 PM

Wil, I'm as shocked and dismayed as you are. You have every right to be upset at Berman's crass, boorish behavior, and if your fellow cast members have any class to speak of in their character, they should be as well! I hope they gang up on Berman and give him the chewing out and telling off of his life!

In the meantime, here's a poem I read somewhere which I hope will help you, especially after your problems with the audition today. The author is unknown, and there are several versions floating around. I've taken the liberty of combining them into one which I hope contains the best parts of all of them. It goes like this:

DON'T QUIT (AUTHOR UNKNOWN)

When things go wrong, as they sometimes will,
When the road you're trudging seems all uphill,
When the funds are low and the debts are high,
And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,
When cares are pressing you down a bit,
Rest if you must, but don't you quit.

Life can be strange, with its twists and turns,
As sooner or later each of us learns,
And many a failure turns about
When he might have won had he stuck it out.
Don't give up, though the going seems slow,
You may succeed with just one more blow.

Often, the goal is nearer than
It seems to a faint and faltering man,
Often the loser has given up
When he might have won the victor's cup,
And he learns too late, as the night slips down,
How close he was to that golden crown.

Success is failure turned inside out,
The silver tint in the cloud of doubt,
And you never can tell how close you are;
You may be near when it seems so far.

So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit,
IT'S WHEN THINGS LOOK WORST
THAT YOU MUST--*NOT*--QUIT!!!

Sincerely,
Tom Nichol

Posted by: Tom Nichol at December 9, 2002 06:01 PM

Let's face it. With Two Towers, Gangs of New York, Adaptation, Catch Me if You Can and all the other great flix coming out --- who cares about the new Trek? Honestly. Wil, it's part of your past and it's part of pop culture's past. Now... if you could score a role in the new Matrix sequels...

Posted by: Nils at December 9, 2002 06:02 PM

Wil, to hell with Berman. If it was an oversight, these things happen, but if it wasn't, he's not worth the sadness. Just think about the friendship with your TNG castmates, and how great it's been seeing them the last few months.

Think about that wonderful feeling you had, when you realized that Patrick, Brent, and everyone else thought way more of you than you dared dream.

What's one pathetic little man compared to that? Focus and perspective, my friend...focus and perspective.

Posted by: Brad at December 9, 2002 06:04 PM

Wil,

That is lame. I find that I am feeling really irritated and really really sad. I don't like any part of this.

Go watch TV with Ryan.

-Jeff

Posted by: Jeffery Borchert at December 9, 2002 06:05 PM

Here I made a little graphic for you Wil
http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/001037.php

Posted by: Jake at December 9, 2002 06:06 PM

Eep. :|

Posted by: belinda at December 9, 2002 06:07 PM

Remember when you wrote up the Anniversary convention how Brent Spiner told you to call him if you ever needed anything? Call him. Ask him if you can get everyone together to go to the thing on Wednesday. Make it as fun as the premiere. Circumvent Rick fucking Berman and his self-important attitude. You worked with the cast. They are your friends. Talk to them, get them to do the Paramount showing. If I were any one of them, I would refuse to go to the official premiere.

Remember the other day when you posted Bob's message about his daughter? Remember saying we can make a difference? WE CAN and YOU can.

I agree with Jeff and Rachel and her family. You were *always* my favorite and Star Trek would not be the same without you. Call Brent. Tell him whether or not you've been shafted, you want to see your friends and you want to be a part of this project you all worked so hard to make--because everyone who was in the series *made* star trek x, from Patrick Stewart down to Ensign Number 8. That certainly includes you, and you deserve recognition. Berman should realize that the more he screws you over, the more he alienates his fans.

A second thought: start a boycott. As much as it pains me to think of missing a Star Trek movie, solidarity is more important. What Berman's doing is wrong and he shouldn't get away with it and profit off of it. Boycott. Period. If Berman doesn't come clean with you about what he's been doing (and cop-out invites don't count), I will be the first to boycott Star Trek.

Solidarity, Wil. You have our support--your fans love you--and we will not let paramount get away with this--because if they're doing it to someone as well known as you, who knows what they're doing to ensign nomber 8?

Once more, with feeling:
Solidarity!
-Clara

Posted by: Clara at December 9, 2002 06:10 PM

Feel bad.

Feel as bad as you could possibly feel, but do it right!

Get in the bed with a pint of Rocky Road Ice Cream, prop yourself up with pillows and pull the covers up around you. (This also works well for heartache and PMS.)

Announce to the world, God and your second cousin that Berman belongs to the lesser known version of Dante's 10th ring of Hell. The one were they put insurance companies and used car salesmen.

Allow and ENCOURAGE people's version of 'What A Prick' he is. Let close friends and family members verbally describe ways and means of their personal favorite dismemberment of him. Have Anne tell you that if he ever tries to screw you over again, she will strap on an appendage, beat him down in a darkened alley and return the favor.

And when the love and total support from them and the fans on this board is radiating through your body, get up out of the bed, put away the ice cream, and remember this...


YOU ARE A FUCKING GREAT ACTOR!!!

And writer, and activist, and...

No, no, it'll only go to your head. :)

But not only that, you have grown and matured into a wonderful man.

Which is more than what some can say. (Berman)

After your done feeling bad, feel the love.

Deb

Posted by: Deb at December 9, 2002 06:15 PM

man oh man.....
what a kick in the face...

It's tough because in the "grand scheme" of things, it doesn't matter, but we all know that deep down inside, in that corner of yourself that wasn't invited to the cool kids party, you feel like shit.

Although it doesn't need to be said, you are better than this. there are actors out there that treat their people like shit, that demand and strut and pose. And then there are people like you Wil, who remind me that there is STILL humanity and humility in this world. I, as a fan, feel privileged to have been a part of this whole "saga". The fact that you pour you heart out in these entries, not just to let it out, but because you know we care, is amazing.

everyone else is right.
give Anne a hug.
play some video games with the boys.
look at the brand new lawn.

delight in the fact that there are people who care, people who hurt right along with you.

peace, brother.

Posted by: dianna at December 9, 2002 06:17 PM

Oh, I'm so sorry. I know the feeling, I've been left out of so many things in my life that by now.. I'm just numb to it. *kicks Rick Berman in the arse* That Ricky needs to smarten up!

Posted by: RavenBlue at December 9, 2002 06:26 PM

Man. That sucks so much ass it boggles the mind.

But it doesn't surprise me.

As a long-time (and now former) ST fan, I've seen over and over how nasty the ST execs can be now that Gene isn't in charge, how often and thoroughly they lie, and how self-centered and profit-motivated they are. They apparently don't give a rat's ass about anything that matters, not the fans, not the actors, not the message they send with the show. Nothing-- except MONEY.

You need to realize Berman will probably try pouring syrupy lies in your ear again at some point, especially if enough fans bitch him out that he thinks he's endangered his own interests. But you have to remember that the things he says ARE lies. He's very skillful at shoveling shit, apparently.

For the sake of your own sanity, you need to remember that it's all crap. Be nice and be polite if you're reluctant to burn your bridges-- but remember, he can't see anything but the dollar bills in his eyes, and everything he says is lip service to whatever he thinks is best for his wallet.

You've got to remember the old saying: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

I'm sorry. You deserve better.

*hug*

--Lil

Posted by: Lil at December 9, 2002 06:27 PM

Here's a little wisdom from Stompin' Tom Conners before I go

"Oh the girls are out to bingo
and the boys are getting STINKO
We'll think no more of Bermano
On a Hollywood Premiere Night

The glasses they will tinkle
When our eyes begin to twinkle
We'll think no more of Bermano
On a Hollywood Premiere Night."

Posted by: RavenBlue at December 9, 2002 06:29 PM

Asshats. Fucktards. (The execs, not you.)

Something I read today might be somewhat helpful to you: http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=rasa&itemid=373116#cutid1

I personally think you should don a bad Karl Kani sweater and crash the party. But that's just me.

Posted by: Rasa at December 9, 2002 06:35 PM

I can't really understand how people could treat you so poorly. You were the reason I got hooked on Star Trek reruns last year when TNG was one of the few shows I could get through the antenna at college. At the beginning of every episode I eagerly scan the opening credits, and I'm always disappointed if your name doesn't show up. And this all happened before I even discovered what a great, multitalented person you are from reading your web site. This guy needs to show you a lot more respect.

Posted by: Colleen at December 9, 2002 06:36 PM

Yet another reason for me to loathe Rick Berman. As if Enterprise wasn't enough.

I'm sorry Wil. He's a bastard, a fucking bastard. He doesn't care about you or the fans.

Posted by: Roxy at December 9, 2002 06:37 PM

That pathetic backstabing fucking bastard.

If Gene Roddenberry (God rest his soul) had the power I'm quite sure Berman would have an unplesant experience with a lightning bolt somewhere in the vicinity of his ass.

I would say that bolt would be up Rick's ass but that space is being currently occupied by his head.

Thanks again Rick (Who needs a story when we have detox gel) Berman, you shameless, clueless, soulless fuck.

You rule Wheaton. You rule like Gandalf, Aragorn, Frodo, Gimil, and Legolas combined.

Fuck the fucking fucks

Sean Wardwell
Boulder Colorado

Posted by: Sean Wardwell at December 9, 2002 06:37 PM

Damn Wil, I don't really know what to say. You'd think that after saving the Enterprise (and letting the show go on), oh, 5 or 6 times, they would treat you a little more seriously. For what it's worth, you were one of my favorites on the show; I was then the age that Wes was supposed to be.

So hold your head high, and say "Screw you Berman". I know it hurts now, but what does it matter in the long run? The execs at Trek may have snubbed you, but you have bigger and better things coming. Beyond that, you have a family who loves you and fans like myself who will stand by you no matter what kinds of shit meet that fan.

Posted by: Thomas at December 9, 2002 06:40 PM

That's a crying shame he has to be this way. You deserve to be there as much as anyone else on the cast.

I'm really sorry.

Posted by: MrsSpooky at December 9, 2002 06:42 PM

Sorry that happened, Wil. It really does blow.

It would be nice if one of your castmates with some juice (and impaired follicles for instance) chewed his ass over this.

Posted by: Zeno at December 9, 2002 06:42 PM

You know Wil, if there's one thing I have learned in my 32 years on this earth, it is that Karma exists. Not in a spooky hari-krisna way, but in the way that if you do something bad, then some serious jooo-joooooo will boomerang right around and bite you in the ass. Well, I think that Berman is ripe for that.

Jake, I love it!! So cool! If Wil makes it into a t-shirt I will fair dinkum buy the sucker and parade it around at a convention.

I also really agree with what Clara wrote - call Spiner, go as his guest, and act real cool. Yeah, ICE cool. GO. If you bump into Berman, say "Hi", smile, turn and walk away as the class act you really are.

Posted by: Kat at December 9, 2002 06:43 PM

Jeez. That really sucks. I'm sorry that you feel left out (again). I don't know what to say. The only things I can say are cheesy and sappy, but true: take comfort that your family is there for you when you need to cry and vent, and so are your devoted monkeys. Screw Berman. Like you said, you enjoyed the fun times with your ST:TNG family, and you'll always have those special times.

We're here for you. *HUGS*

Posted by: Anne at December 9, 2002 06:44 PM

That's awful kiddo, but before you feel too badly, remember there have been a lot of times where you thought you'd been snubbed or left out, and it turned out to be a misunderstanding.

I'm not saying this is one of those times, but it could be. It'd still suck to miss the one that the cast attends, but ... well ... at least it wouldn't be deliberate.

Although, I completely agree with those who've said, "JUST FRICKING GO!" Go to the damn thing TONIGHT!!!

Then again, the Rocky-Road ice cream in bed could potentially be a delightful alternative. (Get your minds out of the gutter, people. :-))

Posted by: MrsVeteran at December 9, 2002 06:46 PM

I don't know what to tell you, or what to say. I do know you're not the only one who's felt like this. Right now, I'm feeling similar, for reasons of my own. I really don't know if you even read all these comments your posts gets. I know you probably don't even have time. If I'm making you feel worse, I'm sorry. That's not my intention. Because you shared this with us, I'm going to share with you a post I made tonight in my own journal. This post is actually friendlocked in my journal, but with me anyway, sometimes it helps knowing I'm not the only one who's feeling like this. Feeling alone and left out is the worst thing in the world, and something I'm very familiar with. I'm so sorry this is happening.
==========
Some days it gets really hard. I've toyed at the idea of abandoning my current LJ, paying for a new one, setting it all back up again, keeping information to a minimum, locking all my posts, and not carrying over old friends to the new one.

Changing my email addresses. Not answering any ones I recognize.

Just dropping out of virtual space, wiping the slate clean, starting over. Cutting all ties. It's so easy to believe that it would really make things easier for everyone else. Cybernetic suicide.

I don't even know if I really believe in friendship anymore, at least, nothing that lasts. I want to. I try to. But deep down there's a tension, a preparation for a strike, a blow. Anywhere. Everywhere.

More than that, I hate myself for it. I hate the fact that I *still* hurt. I hate the utter conviction I have that I'm not missed, that my absence has left people overjoyed and fixed everything.

No, this isn't brought on by a recent post or any emails I've sent. I've been thinking this for a few days now. I've been feeling this for a long time. That temptation to just disappear. Cut ties. Make it easier on everyone. After all, how long before other people thing I'll never have a life worth living, worth caring about?

And it's not even fair of me to think like this. I cannot stress hard enough how angry I am -- at *myself* -- that this still ties me in knots. That I can't let go. That I can't stop missing who I thought people were, what I thought they were. Love is a close cousin to hate, and it's a struggle every day to keep that from consuming me.

It's not fair of me, and I know this. It's not fair to everyone else.

But I'm really tired of reaching out. I'm tired of being crucified for mistakes -- especially mistakes which have been apparently catalogued, backlogged, and then referred to in vague ammunition and never defined, or tossed out as a "...and let me tell you what else I think is wrong with you" manner, old hurts that were never addressed, allowed to fester.

Am I really that evil, that despicable? Or is it like sanity? If you have to ask if you're insane, then you're not? I don't know. I don't have *any* answers anymore. I do think I'm defective as a human. Maybe if I cut all my ties, disappeared from every corner of the world - real and cybernetic - and just started over fresh, I can have a second chance. Starting over. A chance to be somebody else who's not defective.

All I really want for Christmas is to stop hurting.

Posted by: Zanne Chaos at December 9, 2002 06:49 PM

I know I don't know you, Wil, but I feel like I do after reading WWDN since I discovered it a few months ago. And I have to say, I feel like someone has dissed a friend of mine. That sucks. You were just as much a part of TNG as any of the other cast members. Wesley was a big reason why I connected so much to the show, and I know a lot of others feel the same way. Just remember that even if they're excluding you, you've touched the hearts and minds of a lot of fans who will always include you in the Star Trek legacy.

Posted by: Christine at December 9, 2002 06:49 PM

You deserve so much better Wil.

Hugs.

Posted by: April at December 9, 2002 06:49 PM

That sucks!

All your monkeys still love you though and we'd never exclude you from anything!

Posted by: Sunidesus at December 9, 2002 06:57 PM

It's so easy for us all to give you advice, Wil, and you seem to be going through really tough times lately. But we haven't lived the life that Wil Wheaton has, so we really aren't fully qualified to tell you what to do. You're the best man for the job there.

In any case, I just wanted to say that I hope things work out. And that I agree with most of what the people here have said about Trek slowly fading into the past.

I tend to think Berman's at fault for it; the fans liked Trek because it was different and special, and Berman's steered the course right away from the specialness. Would you want to be held in such esteem by someone who's such a lowlife?

You've got specialness in you already, and your own particular brand of coolness. There'll be a light at the end of the tunnel. Talent like yours will out.

Posted by: Mike Harris at December 9, 2002 06:58 PM

Dear Wil,
Some times the universe tries to tell you to move on, some times it screams at you to move on. The longer you give your self worth, identity or life energy to TNG, the more painful it will become. Please take this event as a giant kick in the ass from the universe to grow beyond the Wil Wheaton you were on Trek and fully become the Wil Wheaton of today. Everytime you let go, you have glimpses of how great your true life can be, let those be your motivations not the dried up platitudes and kiss ass promises of shallow money grubbing hollywood types. Live your real life Wil and the universe will act in kind. Trust me.
:)kp

Posted by: Karen at December 9, 2002 07:00 PM

Oh, and by the way, it takes a big man to go online and share that story and your feelings about it. A much bigger man than Rick Berman.

Posted by: Christine at December 9, 2002 07:02 PM

What an utter and complete bastard. I don't think I can say this enough.

Wil, you deserve alot better than the crap they are giving you.

I'm so sorry.

Posted by: rani23 at December 9, 2002 07:03 PM

When I go see the movie, maybe i'll scream out "WHERE'S WESLEY CRUSHER???!" in protest of what happened.

Regardless of Rick Berman, I think you are the cats meow Wil :)

Posted by: syndromes at December 9, 2002 07:07 PM

Wow.. What a god damned bastard. Sucks beyond all belief when people you think you trust do this to you. Sometimes, of course, it's all just a mistake on their part; and oversight. But when it happens intentionally.. and you confront them about it.. Aye aye aye, that's not a feeling one wishes to experience everyday.

Hope you go/did go. Make him explain. Be ultra-attentive on his body language, tone of voice, use of language, etc. Y'know what I mean :-)

Posted by: pyrex at December 9, 2002 07:11 PM

Wow.. What a god damned bastard. Sucks beyond all belief when people you think you trust do this to you. Sometimes, of course, it's all just a mistake on their part; and oversight. But when it happens intentionally.. and you confront them about it.. Aye aye aye, that's not a feeling one wishes to experience everyday.

Hope you go/did go. Make him explain. Be ultra-attentive on his body language, tone of voice, use of language, etc. Y'know what I mean :-)

Posted by: pyrex at December 9, 2002 07:11 PM

To cheer you up, a piece of poetry, paraphrased:

Rick Berman, you m****f****, you're gonna pay, You are the one who is the b***-licker. We're gonna f*** your mothers while you watch and cry like little b******. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Paramount f**** who are making that movie, we're gonna make 'em eat our s***, then s*** out our s***, then eat their s*** which is made up of our s*** that we made 'em eat. Then you're all f****** next.

-Jay & Silent Bob

(It's so much funnier bleeped, isn't it?)

Posted by: Kev Smith Wannabe at December 9, 2002 07:14 PM

Just one little suggestion, Wil, if I may: Get yourself a copy of Yanni's most recent CD, "If I Could Tell You." It was recorded some time after his breakup with actress Linda Evans, and its music was unavoidably shaped to some extent by the emotions he felt in the aftermath. While I'm sure it would be a change from what you normally listen to, sometimes change is good, both musically and emotionally. Listening to Yanni's music on this particular CD might--just might--help you to begin picking up the pieces and moving on after this injury you've suffered.
Peace, my friend, and take care! God bless!

Sincerely,
Tom Nichol

Posted by: Tom Nichol at December 9, 2002 07:15 PM

Damn, man! That just fucking sucks! I feel kinda bad about intisapating this movie now... But I gotsta see it. I've been a big TNG fan my intier life. I was brought up around it, sense my Mom is a big fan as well. Shit like this just makes me want to vomit. It sadens me to see how a member of the "Star Trek family" is treated this way. I'm sure you've heard this a lot, but it's true. Someone needs to put Rick in check. >:(

Posted by: SpiderWebb at December 9, 2002 07:17 PM

I'm not going to rub in the I'm sorry. I really am, but I personally hate people bringing it up over and over again. my friend, who has never even seen TNG (poor girl right?) well, I make her read your comments, and she read this one, and she said tell him "I love him." I thought I would share. and to tell you the truth, I only started watching when you were on the show, the other episodes it took me a while to get into. I hope the rest of the week is better than today.

Posted by: Ang at December 9, 2002 07:17 PM

I've got three words for you, Wil:
Bob. In. Iowa.

How many celebrities do you know who would go out of their way to personally help one single fan? Not many.

And how many celebrities do you know who could inspire dozens upon dozens of strangers around the world to do the same? Even fewer.

You are an amazing person, Wil. I have thought this since I first saw TNG in it's first run. I think it even more now. You are warm, kind, honest, bloody hilarious, REAL ... and powerful. Yes, powerful. C'mon, we love you for a REASON.

It hurts like a bitch, but you're not alone. And so long as you stay as cool as you are, you never will be. Anne and the boys are damn lucky. :)

Like my friend Julie said (after I directed her this way): you seem like the kind of guy you'd wanna just hang out with. You bring the DVDs and the M&Ms (peanut, please), I'll bring the PS2 and the Kettle Corn. Party at Bonnie's house!!

Posted by: Bonnie at December 9, 2002 07:22 PM

There's the part of me that really hopes that it was an oversight, but I'm inclined to believe that it was RFB being what so many posters before me have described with great zeal. I cannae blame them for their strong words one bit. As a young person who has only been into ST since September, it's been disheartening to know that this franchise I've come to love is ruled by a man like RFB. I, too, hope that the rest of the cast finds out and becomes pro-active in some way or another.
Take care, Wil. We've got your back.

Posted by: Reena at December 9, 2002 07:28 PM

Man does that suck.

Real sorry about that, Wil.

But what I really hate is that he lied to you to make you feel better.

I hate it when people do that.

You should make a book out of your blog. Really.

Posted by: sharp at December 9, 2002 07:33 PM

I get the feeling that tonight, somewhere in the universe, there's a metaphysical being looking at Rick Berman's Bad Karma counter, and as the numbers start blurring as they climb higher, the being is bugging it's eyes out and saying "Holy shit!"

Posted by: Mike Sperry at December 9, 2002 07:33 PM

I can't believe there'd ever come a day when I'd write something with the express purpose of making Wil Wheaton feel better. But ... how do I make this not sound cheesy ... One of the really cool things about this blog is it's a place for creative people to share triumphs and disappointments and all those weird idiosyncrasies that make us creative. Providing this place is truly a gift, so thank you. I’ve been on the outside of things a lot, too. It’s a hard feeling. No matter who you are.
I don’t know you, Wil, but because of this gift, I’d consider you a friend. After you pound the walls, take heart in your friends here, and know that you’re appreciated.
-Swinky
Oh, and Rick Berman can bite me (I’ve always wanted to see that in print).

Posted by: swinky2112 at December 9, 2002 07:33 PM

Completely fucked. If you want a pick me up, Film Threat (http://www.filmthreat.com) has Berman and the franchise on this year's "Frigid 50" list. I'd be hurt, too, but at least you're not on a sinking ship.

Posted by: Forrest Gabitsch at December 9, 2002 07:33 PM

Wil. Wil. Wil.

Mojo. Mojo. Mojo.

Posted by: TFN-Chris at December 9, 2002 07:36 PM

Hey Wil,

Totally fucked up for two reasons:

1) You were in the movie, albiet cut out and was told you would be invited to the premiere...which is the damn premiere, not a lot screening!

2) I was invited to the Mann Chinese premiere tonight (dont know if that was the fancy schmancy actor one but when I drove home, there was a helluva line of suits out there) and I wasnt in the movie. I'm glad I did'nt go, bastards!

M.I.S.

np: my fiancee playing his damn guitar in my ear

Posted by: Music Industry Slave at December 9, 2002 07:36 PM

I say we send Wil the Mojo.

Mojo mojo mojo.

Posted by: AntiFreeze at December 9, 2002 07:40 PM

Wil,
I am really, really sorry to hear about this. A lot of times we really want to believe that people are inherently good, and care about us, and won't screw us over. And then they do it again, and we try to suck it up, and rationalize it, and stay cool with them, because hey! you don't want to look like a jerk, right?
Sounds like you aren't a jerk, you're just getting jerked around. I'm sorry that you have been passed over, excluded once again. You seem like a really great guy and you've worked hard. You *do* deserve better.

-Dan

Posted by: Dan at December 9, 2002 07:43 PM

Hey Wil,

Download a couple of dozen geo-caches and go find 'em.

Posted by: schwa at December 9, 2002 07:47 PM

Shit happens. All i know is you need to look at this and know that you are AN AMAZING PERSON, and that THEY ARE MISSING OUT, NOT YOU. It all happens for a reason and Karma will catch up to them. You have to look at your life, your kids, your wife, YOUR NEW LAWN and realize that you are so far above this. Yeah it hurts, but its such a temporary thing. You know that you can move past this and that you have so much more going on in your life than this stupid premiere. SERIOUSLY WIL! Sometimes you find out the hard way who your real "friends" are and who the people are that really care about you. As much as it sucks, know that you are better off than they are. You are doing what makes you happy, you decided not to be "that guy" remember!? There have been so many times something like this has happened to me (granted it has nothing to do with being famous or what not) but you just have to know that maybe its best for you. No matter what kind of shit you got for being "Wil Wheaton, the guy people loved to hate" you have to know there are just as many people out there who still support you. I am 23 yrs old, i was like 9 when i had a crush on you and im still here! Isnt that what matters the most? FUCK PEOPLE LIKE THAT, YOU DONT NEED IT. WIL WHEATON IS BETTER THAN THAT. Use this night to be with your wife and kids, read a book, write some more, stare at your lawn. It all happens for a reason. Dont let something like this get you down, there are more important things in life than a premiere.

Lisa Marie

Posted by: Lisa Marie at December 9, 2002 07:53 PM

Wil,

I have seen, in the theater, mostly opening weekend, every Star Trek movie out to date.
I am so disappointed in how they have treated you that I have no desire to even see this film.
I will be boycotting this movie (although, I may download it for the net and watch it).
I also own all the Trek movies, in one format or another (many in both). I wont be buying this one.

Everyone save your movie dolor and go see Two Tower twice!

Eric

P.S. mojo mojo mojo

Posted by: Eric at December 9, 2002 07:54 PM

Man, I feel so bad for you Wil. I can imagine how shitty I would feel in your situation. I guess that the best thing to do is know that there are bigger and more important things in your life like your family. I know that I'm not really the one to be giving advice, not being in your position and all, but that's the best that I can do. I can see how it would be easy to think that Berman "masterminded" this all, but try not to make conclusions and let's hope that this is all just a coincidence. I can't think of any reason why he wouldn't want you at the premiere so it might just be that he had a lot on his mind. Also, even though you know none of us personally, I think, we do care about what happens to you from getting to know you in your daily writings. Your main source of support is still your family, but know that a lot of people out here are sending you Mojo. Sorry that this has sort of rambled on, but it just hit me how bad I would feel if I were in your position and I hope we have done a good job in consoling you.

Posted by: Sean Mahoney at December 9, 2002 07:57 PM

Wil, I'm sorry.

If you scroll up a little bit you'll find a Bob. In. Iowa. post by Bonnie. If you read these responses (and I hope that you do), go back, read that sucker again, and consider it from me too. I have come to hold the opinion that Berman is a quality example of a misleading fuckhead. But none of that matters, Wil, because I believe you're better than his kind. What have they got? A TV show? Good for them. You've got a wonderful wife, and a love that most dream of. You've got kids who love you and look up to you, even though they're not of your blood. You've got a devoted fanbase - not Wesley's..YOURS! We're in it for you, man. You've taken the time to let us get to know you, and we're all going to tell you the same: You're better. Don't worry. If you're not at their premier, it's their - sorry - loss.

Hurt now, but not for long. You're onto better things. :)

Posted by: Josh at December 9, 2002 07:59 PM

Man, I feel so bad for you Wil. I can imagine how shitty I would feel in your situation. I guess that the best thing to do is know that there are bigger and more important things in your life like your family. I know that I'm not really the one to be giving advice, not being in your position and all, but that's the best that I can do. I can see how it would be easy to think that Berman "masterminded" this all, but try not to make conclusions and let's hope that this is all just a coincidence. I can't think of any reason why he wouldn't want you at the premiere so it might just be that he had a lot on his mind. Also, even though you know none of us personally, I think, we do care about what happens to you from getting to know you in your daily writings. Your main source of support is still your family, but know that a lot of people out here are sending you Mojo. Sorry that this has sort of rambled on, but it just hit me how bad I would feel if I were in your position and I hope we have done a good job in consoling you.

Posted by: Sean Mahoney at December 9, 2002 07:59 PM

Damnit, sorry I posted twice.

Posted by: Sean Mahoney at December 9, 2002 08:00 PM

Wow.

I just finished dinner (yummy enchiladas!) and checked in here, to see what's up.

Boy, 84 comments, and all of the support from you guys is really kind, and wonderful, and very much appreciated.

Thank you, everybody :)

Posted by: wil at December 9, 2002 08:00 PM

Wil.

The other night my friends Brett and Rob and I cooked ourselves a 7-course meal at Rob's house. We watched First Contact, and Brett, who is a Trekkie to the core, was raving about his excitement over Nemesis. I gave my usual response, which is "Nemesis will suck because Wesley was cut from it."

That applies to the premiere, as well, which will suck because you weren't invited.

Oh, Wil, go play with Ryan and eat chocolate ice cream. I know that won't help so much, but at least it's a start, right? People fucking suck. Remember your family and your monkeys love you. Man, I am so pissed I could run out there and lay the smack down on that guy.

One time a couple of months ago I had this stalker, and my best guy friend's roommate Eddie, who fights in the UFC, offered to kick his ass for me. Eddie will go kick Rick's ass for you if we ask him. Want to?

Your angry but stil-loving-you little monkey,
Angie

Posted by: Angie at December 9, 2002 08:04 PM

Hey, I left out an L in "still-loving-you." Kind of like I meant to say "Stil loving Wil"...ok, ok, not funny. Sorry.

Posted by: Angie at December 9, 2002 08:07 PM

Wil, I can't believe that they would do that to you. I cannot imagine how much they hurt you. The worst part is they probably don't even realize it. You can't let them keep getting to you like this. Sacrily enough not everyone that watched Star Trek hated you. Well I didn't anyway. It may have a lot to do with the fact that I was 10 yrs old and had a crush on you, but that's entirily besides the point. You keep moving on to bigger and better things. Don't let them hold you back.

Posted by: Terra at December 9, 2002 08:07 PM

Man, I was happy to hear you would be going. I was genuinely happy toleanr that you were going to hang out with the rest of the cast despite being cut. I was happy to learn that Rick said you would be going to the event. I was excited for you. I checked your site today to hoping to hear more good news, especially after reading about the Polar Express audition earlier today. What a shock it was to learn that you got snubbed again. I was really hoping to hear all about your experiences with the premiere. I'm very sorry. I could say it doesn't matter, but I know it mattered to you. All I can say is it's beyond your control, and you have a ton of fans, loving family, and friends. The experience just makes you a wiser man.

Posted by: Travis Riggs at December 9, 2002 08:17 PM

arg. verrrrrrrry tempted to go walk down to westwood and start a "where the hell is my wil wheaton????" riot. it would be the perfect finals distraction. hmm. is there a westwood/ucla contingent to the posse? it's been awhile since we've had some mischief over here...

rick berman is the devil's skid marks.

Posted by: indigo at December 9, 2002 08:21 PM

UHM.....WOW. So much has already been said.
There's really nothing more to say but what
you wrote on a recent autograph for me: "ROCK!"
Wil, you got it, you'll NEVER lose it, and
SCREW those other losers who don't recognize
it!!! I love you, man! But, you know that
already. :-)
Just CONTINUE to hold your gorgeous head up high,
and dag blast it!! HUG FERRIS!!! That will make
you feel better. Lotsa lotsa love to you, mah bud.

Posted by: Indigo Dol at December 9, 2002 08:25 PM

Go with the crying, bud. That'll work. It's natural to feel hurt, but you know better than most that's how showbiz works; lies, shallowness, and no integrity. Too bad none of the others bothered to let you know either. At this point, you might as well wait a few months for the DVD. This has to be exacerbated by the fact it follows on the heels of the audition disappoinment. Not a good week so far. It's gotta get better.

Posted by: Topeka Lee at December 9, 2002 08:27 PM

Geez Wil, that's a tough break. Seriously, I don't understand how Hollywood can have such a corrupting effect on people. The cursed place seems to remove common decency from whomever comes in contact with it. Well, instead of lamenting over your exclusion from the premiere, be glad that you'll be bringing all this joy to your fans/friends this Christmas season with your autographed 8x10's. I know I'm looking forward to mine with great anticipation.

All the best,
Charles

Posted by: Charles at December 9, 2002 08:28 PM

Wil
I'm really sorry to hear what's happened. Do call up your friends in Star Trek when you can; I'm guessing it might help you feel less isolated. And you must know by now how many people appreciate you and what you do.
Lots of love
William

Posted by: William at December 9, 2002 08:29 PM

Judging by this review of a bootleg cut of the film, you might be happy you're not there ...

http://www.filmjerk.com/reviews/nemesis.html

Posted by: bluecav at December 9, 2002 08:29 PM

Wil,

I've posted on this before. But I just feel that I should now. You've been fucked over by Berman, and I'm sorry for that. No person deserves to be treated like the way you have been for the past 15 years. I know that you are saying that you are a writer/actor now, but I don't think I can post without saying that I truly believe that you are a great actor. Your character on ST was always my favorite. There was something about him, like the fact that he did manage to save the day, that just made me happy. Here was a kid who was bright/socially awkward, but he was doing amazing things. It just made me happy that this kid was doing these things, and it actually gave me more confidence to be smart and bright, and it actually led to my first boob-touching (I kid). So I thank you for that (the confidence, not the boob touching). And I can't really top any of the past advice that has been posted here, so I'll just repeat it (sorry about that) Bermans=asshole. But you can't dwell on that and you cannot let him own your feelings like he has. You might not have as much "power" as him, or as much "money" or as much "Hollywood" success, but you are by far the better person. So go get your 50,000 Monkeys and 50,000 typewriters and just be yourself, and make a difference, like you have already with me and hundreds, thousands, of others.

Posted by: Jake Stern at December 9, 2002 08:30 PM

Wil,

Some wise words for you dearie:

When the pasts dust lies on the ground,
Think not of whats lost, focus on whats found,
50,000 fans make one helluva sound,
cos (to Prick Berman) WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND!!!!!

And whilst we're on the subject of Rick Berman, I give you this ancient proverb from my homeland. Use it as a mantra to get you through the day.....

"May the fleas of a thousand sheep, infest his armpits/groinal area" (delete as applicable).

Posted by: Foxychik at December 9, 2002 08:31 PM

Okay, somebody else is using "indigo"
which sucks, so I guess I'll have to submit
future entries with a different nickname,
like the one I used in high school.
Okay, just dub me monkey 1,220 with the
name, "Sweet T". I guess "indigo" is becoming
too popular. Uhm, yeah. That is all.
Oh, and one more thing I forgot to add:
WIL WHEATON IS 'DA MAAAAAAN! Smooches all around.

Posted by: Sweet "T" at December 9, 2002 08:32 PM

Heh, please add a "never" in the first sentence of my previous post. It should read "I've never posted on this before." And Berman still=asshole

Posted by: Jake Stern at December 9, 2002 08:33 PM

Berman is a HUGE, GIANT, MONDO goober! This dumb stunt he pulled just makes me believe even more he's a moron who couldn't be able to pull his head from his bum even if he had a road map!
Hey Wil, I have a friend who knows someone who knows someone. I'm sure he'd be happy to put in a call to that person. :)

Posted by: Nikki at December 9, 2002 08:34 PM

Next time the bastard wants something from you, sunddenly remember a urgent hair appointment! Fuck 'em, fuck 'em in the ear!!

Posted by: Dee at December 9, 2002 08:34 PM

*suddenly* remembered I can't spell!

Posted by: Dee at December 9, 2002 08:36 PM

I hate Rick Berman!

Posted by: Jenny at December 9, 2002 08:39 PM

Hmm. Just dropped in, like I do occasionally, and Damn.
I can only echo what I read before; Call Spinner. The only contact I have with the whole mess anymore is from ST:TOS and if I thought it would do any good, I would...Never mind, I'll call anyway.
But you should call Spinner.

Posted by: RichT at December 9, 2002 08:40 PM

wow....that really sucks...and to think that you were one of my favorite characters. Well here is all of my mojo for you to have. I hope it helps. I just wanted you to knoe that you are not alone, and you have more fans than Rick Berman could ever dream of. I think we should all complain to paramount. I bet we could get recognized. anyone have a web site in mind?

Posted by: steoh at December 9, 2002 08:41 PM

hey Wil, I just wanted to say sorry you got screwed out of seeing the screening. Spend some time with your family though and I know you will feel much better.

Posted by: Blue at December 9, 2002 08:44 PM

i boycott them.
i boycott them.
i boycott them.... throw dog poopy on their shoes.

fuckers.

Posted by: samalee at December 9, 2002 08:45 PM

There's nothing magic to say to make you feel better, Wil, but just think of how strong this makes you for the long haul.

Posted by: robert berry at December 9, 2002 08:45 PM

Screw that guy Rick! Screw the premiere!!! Invite your friends from the show to your house for a barbecue on your new lawn and don't invite Rick!!! You'll probably have more fun that way anyways

Posted by: Kate at December 9, 2002 08:49 PM

Chin up, Wil. While the majority of us who post here aren't what you'ld call "close friends" (hell, half of us are just random folk and fans), we're all behind you. Wil Wheaton _does_ have a posse, and we're all with you. This equates to your friends telling you they don't want you at your own birthday party (which happened to me once), and is just plain wrong. Why people do this to you (intentional or not), I don't understand. He owes you a phone call and a good, honest explanation.

Posted by: Eric at December 9, 2002 08:51 PM

I'd have to agree with several previous posts - Trek has not been the same without you. It's annoying that in order to support something that we love (ie. the Trek-y goodness), we must support someone we loathe (ie. the devil's skid marks).

I'm sure another "sorry" at this point may seem superfluous, but I mean it. You are an inspiration to me, both as an actor and a writer, and it sucks that this has happened to you again.

Be hurt, be angry, be whatever you feel is necessary for you to get through this. Your monkeys are all supporting you.

Posted by: skandrae at December 9, 2002 08:54 PM

wil, the struggling actor, would most likely be upset at news like this.
however...
wil, the renegade writer, should perhaps look on this as fodder for his next update.

wil.
you are a writer/actor.
use this.

the anger you're feeling, the hurt, the shock at being left out.
use it.
channel it towards something better.

and never.
never
ever
take Rick fucking Berman at his word again.


Rick, no doubt your juniors are gonna read this and give you the synopsis...

heres a quick one.

you just lost me.
was going to see this movie.
now i'm not.
and neither are a lot of wheatons fans.

fuck you and your 'oversight'

Posted by: Tyson at December 9, 2002 08:54 PM

But Wil Wheaton Rawks!

MOJO to the man!

Posted by: Jenny at December 9, 2002 08:55 PM

*sends major caring mojo*

Man, that totally sucks Wil. Wish we could all do something more, besides send ya caring & major mojo support. :)

*drool* Enchiladas sound really good... :)

Posted by: Moonie at December 9, 2002 08:55 PM

Reading through the comments, something else occured to me.

The best advice, the best comfort anyone ever gave me was this: When all else fails, write a book. It's the best revenge of all.

Looks like you've already got your revenge.

Posted by: Clara at December 9, 2002 08:55 PM

"Berman is the devil's skid marks."

Best. Insult. Evar. I am in awe. I applaud.

Wil, I already e-mailed you, but look above this -- over 100 people writing to say "We're in your corner." I'd be willing to bet that Rick Berman doesn't have 100 people sending the mojo.

Posted by: Andrew at December 9, 2002 08:57 PM

I can't believe you let Ryan watch "Sabrina the Teenaged Witch." *Shudder*

Posted by: isabel at December 9, 2002 08:57 PM

I think you are being too hard on yourself. Really what is the big deal? You are the only one who knows who you really are. Why is a guy like you going to let an asshole ruin your day? Wil....Have some integrity. Pick yourself up, dust off your boots and hit the streets! I think you are cool even though we disagree politically. There isn't a single person who wouldn't agree with me on this. I really am not a Star Trek fan but I like your personality so quit being such a wus and make new contacts. To hell with the ELITE. You need to re-invent what it is that you see yourself as and not what everybody else sees you as. Just my opinion. I am Pete from 8bitjoystick.com And I just wanted you to know that I am a buddy of Jakes....who is a really cool person. I sure hope that you stop this TIRADE that your on and get back on the proverbial horse. This guy really sounds like an A-HOLE and I dont understand why it should matter to you. Good luck. We all need it sometimes.

Posted by: pete at December 9, 2002 08:58 PM

Oh, yeah, and -- it's THEIR loss (Berman's, everyone's) too and they don't even know it. Thoughtless or purposeful -- either way it's ignorance.

Posted by: isabel at December 9, 2002 08:59 PM

Buck up, I think they are probably saving Wesley for the sequel to the mess this film appears to be from all the negative reviews so far.

Hey, Riker and Troi will be gone, Data's gone to android heaven (maybe), momma Bev's gone- who are they gonna call to save Picard's aging ass in the next film? Worf's getting pretty gray even for a Klingon. Geordi is a great engineer, but not really the action figure type. Who will they gonna call?

Wesley, The Boy(-ish) Wonder, that's who!

"Star Trek 11: The Generation After Next"
Christmas, 2004

Posted by: Mike Jackson at December 9, 2002 09:00 PM

Rick Berman is rotting hogshit. Remind me to bring a crate of rotten eggs to his next appearance. >:(

Posted by: Gwalchmai at December 9, 2002 09:06 PM

Just goes to show you what "friends" are like in Hollywood. If Brent, Patrick or ANY of the others put their foot down and said, "Rick, you had better make sure that Wil is at the premier, or I might be getting the flu that day," he WOULD be at the premier. Instead, they look out only for themselves...

Posted by: Richard Brown at December 9, 2002 09:10 PM

Wil:

Everyone knows Berman is a 'blow hole', but I can understand your disappointment. Only a schmeg like him would shine you on the way he did and then screw you over tonight.

Oh well, live and learn.

I wish you the best and hope things turn around. At least you know all of us are here every day keeping you company.

Scott

P.S. Wes was ALWAYS one of my favorite characters -- you do have fans out here, you know...

Posted by: E. Scott Heinis at December 9, 2002 09:10 PM

Just another (((((HUG))))) from a BIG TIME Star Trek Geek. (I even dress-up at the cons). My husband and I have decided not to see the movie now. We were almost at that point when they cut you, one of our favorite character. But after this, it's just not an option anymore. Maybe if they put you on the DVD we'll buy it, but otherwise, no way.

I hope you know how hearfelt all these comments in here are. We all really enjoy your blog and feel like we know you and Anne and the boys like some kind of distant relative. You touch a lot of people. People like Berman have no real heart to touch.

Feel Better.

Posted by: Patchy at December 9, 2002 09:13 PM

That just plain sucks. There is no other way to put it.

Sounds like it might be time to fucking REGULATE!

Phoenix is only 4 hours away from LA if I drive like I always do. Give me the word and I'll hop in my sled and well go bust a ca- ... er ... have a conversation ... with that piece of sh- ... er ... Rick Berman.

Posted by: kevin at December 9, 2002 09:15 PM

Fuckin' cocksuckers.

Posted by: Patton L. Zarate at December 9, 2002 09:15 PM

Man if there is any one who deserved a warm cup of vomit ala Harlan Ellison style it's that asshat.

Wil you deserve better but like some of the people that have typed before me-

Star Trek is the past. Don't look back.

Hoping my mojo helps to dent the hurt you're feeling.

-K
Beastie Lives!

Posted by: MissKittyFantastico at December 9, 2002 09:15 PM

You probably won't read this far down the list, but what happened to you has stuck in my craw all night. You deserve better, and my only thought is to remember how you feel at this moment. Remember how you feel next time they want you for something, be it a convention, a cruise, etc. Remember what they did to you, and don't do them the favor of taking what scraps they throw you.

I know you talk about the revolving door, but perhaps it's time to walk through it one last time, and nail it shut behind you.

AC

Posted by: Arnie C at December 9, 2002 09:18 PM

Is there anyway we can e-mail Rick Bergman and complain?

Posted by: Angellwwolf at December 9, 2002 09:23 PM

Sounds to me as if we need to substitute the word "fuck" with the word "Berman" from now on in the English Language.(I realize, though, that this could be a case of shooting the messenger....)
For instance..."Looks like you got Bermanned over again, Wil."
Could have been worse, though. Imagine not being able to escape that Wesley character at all!
Imagine... 40 years from now some jerk approaching you on the street saying, "Hey, look!! It's Wesley Crusher! Hi, Wes!"

Posted by: Dave at December 9, 2002 09:23 PM

Wil,

I think it's terrible, and echo many who've said much the same already tonight. You've got a lot that is good and right in your life, and both of your careers are moving forward.

I think what I'm surprised at is not just that the character you played hasn't had any storyline closure, but also that not one of your former castmates thought of calling you tonight and making sure you were there with them. (I do hope that doesn't make this worse) The character you played was a part of the main cast, and as such deserves inclusion, as do you. I think it's a shame that this has happened. It does not reflect well upon Paramount, Star Trek, or Berman and others guiding this.

However you have a loving wife, a great family, and as I said before - your careeer(s) are going forward. I know this hurts, let yourslef feeling and then put it away. You seem to have a lot - cherish it, and let all else pass away.

K.

Posted by: Kiri at December 9, 2002 09:26 PM

It's a damn shame, really. The more I read from you and Robert Beltran, and the more episodes of Enterprise I see...the more Rick Berman makes me want to throw up. Sorry...I've tried to be a faithful good little Trek fan, but what he does to you, what he did to Voyager, and what he's doing to Enterprise just isn't right. How much longer are we expected to tolerate it?

Posted by: Kelly at December 9, 2002 09:31 PM

Reality check. Did you think the red carpet premiere was really going to be at Paramount? Besides, you'd have shown up with blue hair and a Popeye arm. Had you been photographed on the red carpet, you surely wouldn't get invited to Tom Hanks' next picture.

What was it that Brent invited you to Europe for? You should use his cell number and give that man a call.

Posted by: Carlos at December 9, 2002 09:38 PM

Bermen's a snake, as you've seen. And it sucks to hurt Wil, but you can't let this get you down too much. You have to just accept it, and move on, and the next time Bermen asks you to go on an episode of Enterprise or save Picard from some wretched alien scum - ask him where your premiere tickets next to Levar and Patrick are. When he looks at you in that odd "what is he talking about?" way - don't bother explaining - instead stomp on his foot and steal his wallet and then run away. Serves the man right for kicking my childhood idol out of my favorite television series by making him some sort of indian traveler and not a ensign on DS9.

So sigh your last sigh, and wipe up those tears. You got to think of an appropriate line of obscenities for the next time you see Berman.

--Alex C. Schaefer
acs5@UWM.edu

Posted by: Alex C. Schaefer at December 9, 2002 09:39 PM

Are you sure the screening is Wednesday? I was supposed to go tomorrow (Tuesday).

Posted by: Jess Heinig at December 9, 2002 09:41 PM

In honor of my solidarity, i'm about to go dye my hair blue. Can't get you out of the hole unless we're in the hole with you. And when people ask why my hair is blue, i shall say, "Cause Rick Berman's an ASS!" and walk away triumphantly as people stare me down, worried about my mental health.

Now, to finish the job, i just gotta find some poison oak.

Again, i say it: mojo. mojo. mojo.

Everybody now!

Posted by: TFN-Chris at December 9, 2002 09:46 PM

#1 Star Trek X isn't a "must see" for me anymore. I hate learning that people behind a product are assholes.

#2 Have your own premiere. Tell us where and when and you can bet a bunch of us show up.

Posted by: Rotwang at December 9, 2002 09:50 PM

On the up-side, The Girl's Room is on Showtime Women tonight... I missed the screenings in LA and it's so far just great. Kudos on this project...

Posted by: Kath at December 9, 2002 09:50 PM

I'm sorry, but the only thing that can be said here is that Rick Berman's a c*cksucker. That's about the extent of it.

Posted by: Janis at December 9, 2002 09:50 PM

Damn the man Wil...damn the man! There is nothing I can say to make the pain go away. Everyone knows the feeling of being left out of something important. Just as Rick Berman will feel when you do not mention his name in any of your acceptance speeches when you one day win an Academy Award.

I agree with Skeptic...buy the suit and burn it..lol.

My prayers for you and your hurt feelings!
Remember:::
"The soul that is within me no man can degrade." Frederick Douglas

Posted by: Jennifer at December 9, 2002 10:01 PM

"You still remember, Rick Berman --I cannot help but be touched. I, of course, remember you."

"What is the meaning of this blog attack? What happened to your William F**King Shatner T-shirts?"

"Surely I've made my meaning plain, Rick. I mean to avenge myself upon you, Berman. I have deprived your limp, failing Star Trek franchise of power and when I swing around I mean to deprive you of future stupid TNG sequels entailing B-9's Katra...But I wanted you to know first who it was who had beaten you!"

"Wil, if it's me you want, I'll have myself appear as a cameo on Enterprise dressed like a female Ferengi...spare my legal entourage!"

"I'll make you a counter-proposal. I'll agree to your terms if....IF, in addition to the cameo, you create for me a Star Trek TNG spin-off series called, "Wesley loves the Traveler," chronicalling the growing superpowers I'd developed in that American Indian, peyote-laden episode that sucked so bad!"

"The Traveler? Who is that?"

"Don't insult my intelligence, Berman."

"Give me some time to recall the casting agents for our next search."

"I give you 60 seconds, Berman...."

Posted by: Khan at December 9, 2002 10:05 PM

I doubt Rick has enough free time to factor in the human element into most of the things he thinks and does (I don't know the guy, but I know the type.) That's no excuse for excluding you, but for alot of people a promise is another thing to forget to enter into a calendar.

Forget about it. You were cool on Star Trek, (real) people liked you, and you made your mark on that universe. Your real friends will probably wonder where you were at the premire, but such is life. Go to the Wednesday premire and be grateful that you can even go to such things (we can't go to that.) Then go to the movie with your kids and wife on Friday and enjoy it again! (That's better than a premire anyway... assuming you wait until school's out this time. :-) )

Posted by: wadetemp at December 9, 2002 10:06 PM

Rick Berman sucks. It is, however, my sincere belief that by continuing to screw both you and ST fans like this over and over again, he is shooting himself in the foot. He is simply promoting the further decline of the franchise, and the decline of the franchise means the decline of Rick Berman.

Here's to hoping that after this movie tanks there will be an internal power struggle within Paramount resulting in the demise of said Rick Fucking Berman.

Posted by: yodelingwerty at December 9, 2002 10:08 PM

I know it's hard today, and I know you know that there's more important things in life. I hope you can put this in the past sooner than later.

Posted by: KB at December 9, 2002 10:08 PM

I wish I could say that I am surprised by I am not. Why he treats you that way is beyond me, but you do have the power to stop it. Refuse to let him get to you anymore. Just let the whole thing go. If he is going to act like a little shit then let him. If he tries to call you to get you to call off the attacking hordes at his gates (and you know that is what we will all do) don't take the call, or take the call and tell him to his face that you know his game and you are changing the rules! Let him know that you know exactly what kind of two face bastard he his. Tell him that you are no longer concerned with him or his projects and that if his conduct has gotten him into trouble then he can get himself out of trouble with the fans. Then hang up in his ear and be done with the sorry S.O.B..

There are pleanty of us who are interested in your current projects and genuine good fortune. If that is not enough then think about this.
You;
1 Got me thinking about free speach and the internet to the point that I have emailed my senators about the issues.
2 Entertain me often with your stories which I have retold to many people in general conversations
3 Helped a little girl and her family through a very tough time
4 YOU GOT TO WORK WITH ISSAC HAYES HOW COOL IS THAT!
5 You have a wonderful wife and terrific kids
6 Just got a new lawn
7 Have a loving family
there is a lot more and I invite everyone to add to the list, but the last item I will add is a fan base that likes you for more than a character you played years ago, we like you for who YOU are. Some dumb ass can not take that away from you! Now go kiss your wife, pet the dog, play with the kids and start writing the next great american novel, or be on Tech TV again.
Patrick (no I am not bald)

Posted by: Patrick at December 9, 2002 10:11 PM

a simple note to let you know that you will always stand out to me... and you would be sorely missed were I there!

Posted by: amancay at December 9, 2002 10:18 PM

I know a few people who got a hold of the finished script for the movie as well. Apparently it reads like bad fanfic and I mean REALLY bad fanfic. Guess that's what you get when you hire people who know nothing about the show to write. Trust me, Wil, you don't want a shit stain like this movie on your resume.

Inuki

Posted by: Inuki at December 9, 2002 10:21 PM

Here's the Boycott Nemesis site:
http://www.dangerousideas.org/nemesis.html

PLEASE--if you want to participate in the boycott, link the site and email me: lain@dangerousideas.org so I can compile a list. I'll need your full name, city and state so I can send this list to Rick Fucking Berman when the Nemesis run is over. Let's let him know exactly how much his pocketbook depends on Wil Wheaton and his loyal fans.

Solidarity!
-Clara

Posted by: Clara at December 9, 2002 10:22 PM

Damn. =o(

Man, Wil, Im sorry that they keep treating you this way. It isnt fair and you have every right to be there at the screening with your friends!!

This angers me. I know what its like to be left out of things on purpose. I dont know what else to say. *sends Wil BIG HUGS* I hope that makes you feel a little better.

Posted by: GreenEyes The Official CAT of Violence at December 9, 2002 10:24 PM

Hey Wil,

Everybody has bad days sometimes, but it all has to balance out eventually, right? Today sucked a whole lot, so sometime soon -- maybe tomorrow, maybe someday next week -- you've got a REALLY GOOD DAY coming...

Lisa

Posted by: Lisa at December 9, 2002 10:35 PM

F*@& 'em...it's their loss...you kick @$$...never forget that...

Posted by: Frell at December 9, 2002 10:42 PM

Wow...

I've come to the website before (it's really hip and groovy ^_^ ) so when a friend told me I had to check and see the latest entry, I thought it might be something just as amazing.
Well, it was.
It was amazing that he was that disrespectful.
I'll be honest, I'm not really a regular. And I'm not gonna say that you can just brush it off. All I can say as me, Danii, college student in VA, is that if it was up to the FANS, to the people who watched the show, the people who come to the site, and the people who love the series down to their souls...you'd have been there. And there are a hell of alot more of us then there are of him.
Keep strong, and never stop!

Posted by: Danii at December 9, 2002 10:45 PM

Clara,

Your site has been submitted to Fark under the Wheaton tag. Let's hope it gets through! :)

Inuki

Posted by: Inuki at December 9, 2002 10:50 PM

I'm not sure if Wil will see this here so ill email it to him as well. Boycotting the movie wont succeed very well because I think people really do want to see this movie, and im not going to let the actions of one man stop me from enjoying the work of the hard work actors/actresses that worked on the film. However somthing does need to be done. So I'll take somthing away from the studio and Rick Berman that wont hurt the cast to much. Some of the more important numbers that mean alot in the film industry are the grossing amounts for the first weekend. So, what I'm suggesting is not seeing it on opening weekend. Wait a week or so. Maybe being below some crappy movie on its opening weekend will get Rick Bermans eyes open.

Posted by: bust0aster at December 9, 2002 10:57 PM

i never liked that Berman asshole. now i positively hate his fucking guts. what a big goddamn jerk. who stole the soul [out of ST]? Rick Berman, that's who.

Posted by: transmothra at December 9, 2002 11:00 PM

most people have said what I wanted to say...so....

::HUGS::

Posted by: Ruthie at December 9, 2002 11:01 PM

Wil:
This sucks BIG TIME! I have to say that I have also been "displeased" with the way you have been treated by the powers that be at Paramount--and that includes Rick Berman et al. I was never happy with what they did to your character after you left regular series work. The producers could have come up with much better ideas and used you more in the series. Similarly, by all rights you should have been included in ALL the TNG movies. For every movie that came out I would read all the mags to see if you were mentioned in anyway but of course you weren't. You have been screwed royally and it is completely unfair. I suggest that when everyone goes to see Nemesis, they should wear a t-shirt that says "Where's Wil?" This could be a national campaign. It could also include a big pic of Ensign Crusher looking all spiffy in his uniform. Maybe if and when a Star Trek 11 comes to fruition, there will be a big chunk of script for Wil to do!!!

Go, Wil!!! Go, Wesley!!!

Posted by: Scott T at December 9, 2002 11:06 PM

It's funny... I think that to most of us, Rick Berman is just a name. But Wil Wheaton is a person that we care about. In reality, we don't really know either of them...

I mean, although you are real and open, and let us know who you are for real, you don't know any of us. You may know that I called you a bastard for 6 months straight, but that's about it. Oh yeah, I'm persistant too.

My point is... Okay, I don't know what my point is. It just strikes me as funny how everyone hates Berman... We don't even know if it was intentional.... It better not be *shakes fist*

-Jeffery

Posted by: Jeffery Borchert at December 9, 2002 11:07 PM

Man. Talk about rotten. I think lots of us have been in similar situations. You're hopped up for a big deal with friends, an important gathering, and at the last minute, you find out you've been stabbed in the back. I admit it, I was disappointed too when hearing about the cuts made, and your scene was amongst them. This is untenable though. It appears to me that, even though Gene had significantly less power as the years went by, after his death, the Trek management has become much less human, much less caring, much less focused on the important things, and much more focused on milking the Star Trek saga for their own personal gain and power plays.

And because of all this, I'm becoming more and more torn about my own loyalty to the franchise. I feel we're being used, and folks like you are getting shafted for no reason. This is REALLY cheap of B&B to do. But, to be honest, I'll not be surprised if Braga had something to do with it. Brannon Braga is one of the worst things to happen to ST. Maybe this needs to be publicised, and become a rallying point ot get the Fandom to speak up against this increasing arrogance. Braga must go, and damnit, you deserved to be at that premier just as much as anyone. I wrote you an email to which you did reply (albeit breif, it was cool!), and I'll repeat one part, one of the best episodes of STTNG was "Final Misson". It was a watershed moment for Wes _and_ for Picard, and that episode's legacy, I think, had an effect on the character of Picard ever since, including in this film (a lot here, from the plot I have seen).

Lastly, look at it this way, we all like you a lot more than we like B&B. :)

Posted by: jesus_X at December 9, 2002 11:08 PM

It sucks just as much that Wesley isn't even in this movie. I miss him and want to know what he's been up to.

Oh well. I hope you crashed the premier. Nobody would turn you away.

Posted by: John at December 9, 2002 11:14 PM

I don't know what to say. A friend just gave me this link and said read it and I just can't believe anyone could be so rude and cruel. You're the reason I got hooked on Trek, which has lost a lot of its goodness, but you're still awesome. And I'm boycotting Nemesis, I've got better things to do with my money. Good luck and follow your dreams and don't listen to the corporate asses, what do they know about what we like anyway. Be happy and know that you've got a lot of people out there who will be angry for you and show Berman proof of what he's lost by not having you there. Be well and find some happiness in this mess.

Posted by: Kate at December 9, 2002 11:15 PM

I'm not sure there are words to express how sorry and pissed I am. Sorry that the bastard is treating you the way he does, and pissed that he's such a child for behaving that way. To this day you are one of my favorite characters on STNG, and I was really looking forward to seeing you in Nemesis. Well, I'm sure you know that there are lots of fans out there like me who wish you well, so here's hoping things look up.

Posted by: Michelle at December 9, 2002 11:15 PM

Reading that reminded me of that painful yet all-too-familiar feeling. That they would do that, and on the last TNG movie to boot... that's just unfair and uncalled for. My biggest anticipation for this film was that your character would be back, then they cut your scenes. And now, this happens to you... Damn, I'm really sorry, Wil. I was always part of the crowd that liked Wesley, and when I found this site, I was wowed by how much cooler you are off camera. Best of luck, man.

And for those who want to boycott the movie opening weekend: Here's one better. Wait longer, until it comes out on video, then rent. The movie store gets your money, the studios don't see any of what you pay to rent. (just what the rental places paid for the movies, so the more or less you rent doesn't change that)

Posted by: Gus at December 9, 2002 11:28 PM

as many have said before me:
we love you.

Posted by: shaun at December 9, 2002 11:36 PM

this really sucks. Even if it's not personal, Rick needs to personally apologise. You were an intagral part of the cast. Bugger this "ship is the star of the show" crap

Posted by: The Silent E at December 9, 2002 11:36 PM

/me Hugs You.


monkeys rule

Posted by: Rob Jagger at December 9, 2002 11:39 PM

Alright, to all you non-believers. I've had that site up just over an hour and already I have 26 names. Keep at it, let's make this work.

Also, *please* take the time to check out the main site (though it is much in progress) as there are two other important causes on the front page. If we can do it for Wil Wheaton, we can do it for workers in Colombia.

Wil, you rock.

Solidarity!
-Clara

Posted by: Clara at December 9, 2002 11:39 PM

So Rick is a filthy, smarmy little liar. Big surprise. Smooth finish over cold design. His kind are all the same.

Bitten once, I wouldn't let him bite again.

Posted by: White Russian at December 9, 2002 11:43 PM

Hey Wil,

Don't know if you read this far down the list, but I really felt the need to add my two cents.

Only one thing came to mind as I read your entry this evening. Sympathy.

After reading through *all* of the comments, I've thought of something else. Trek has been, for me, an example of how high humanity can become. I was always more drawn to the "morality" and "character-driven" stories than the purely action-filled pieces. Guess that's why I preferred Insurrection to First Contact.... Anyway, my point is, instead of being all vengeful (which, I can understand, is a perfectly natural reaction), take the high ground. Face it, bitching Berman out is not going to accomplish anything. Think of what Trek originally stood for, when Gene was still alive. All of this crap is just an example of how much more important it is for all of us to work towards his (Gene's) vision.

"This too shall pass." Until then, you have my sympathy.

Em

Posted by: Em at December 9, 2002 11:55 PM

If it's any consolation whatsoever, I know exactly how you feel. I've been on the receiving end of a *very* similar call (though the non-invite was to a party, nothing near as swanky as a movie premiere) and--damn, it hurts.

Have some mojo.

My only reason for wanting to see this movie was the return of Wesley. Wil, when I heard you were cut, my entire family changed their plans. This just cements that change.

Posted by: palmetto at December 9, 2002 11:57 PM

Hey Wil, the premiere is tonite! Make sure to be there... I can arrange someone to drive you here if you need it. Give me a call, I tried your numbers a few time, but they wouldn't go through.

-Rick.

Posted by: Rick Berman at December 10, 2002 12:06 AM

I think a whole lotta monkeys and fellow travellers have said everything I want to say ... I hope esp. for you that Rick forgot or some other such VIP Mgt. oversight crap ( they do that like all of us but somehow they make it nastier because of their smarmy follow ups ) and not intentionally dissing you.
I especially liked the idea of not per se boycotting but undercotting the film- wait til post Christmas , maybe past the new year... see an indie, see LOTR, see Gangs or whatever and then, around 2nd weekend of Jan , see Nemesis and hope it's slipslide into # 9 or 10 after 5 weeks or so is just enough of a message to H'weirdness PTB that maybe someone should wake up and smell the racticinno. They need to throttle back and revamp the whole "enterprise" of Star Trek, anyway.
Hope you get an audition every week and are inundated with interesting roles , challenging roles and a few well paying ones wouldn't hurt as well. May you have your Big Fat Greek Wedding sometime in the next year or so !!!Write a cool movie of your own.
Feelgood Mojo, Audition successes mojo, and get some physical therapy for the tendenitus mojo...
Kaplagh ! Don't let the bastards get you down!
Keep us posted on how all of it did turn out, I also appreciate the site and how open you are.
Thanks, Kaplaghfinewhatever

Posted by: KPFW at December 10, 2002 12:12 AM

You are happily married, and your careers are largely devoted to play. Gene Roddenberry vouched for you professionally, and LeVar Burton and Jonathan Frakes within the last year, and you came through for them -- creatively, where it counts. This places you in the high-percentile minority of wealth in this country. People will try to break you. Don't let them.

Posted by: Mike at December 10, 2002 12:50 AM

This pisses me of! It really do ! I am one of them who thought Wesely was cool. They are now once again offending me as well as Wil.

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2002 12:50 AM

Welp,

I think im skipping out on the movie now...if Berman doesnt give a shit about those in the trek family...you can tell he doesnt give a crap about the audience.

Posted by: Bryan at December 10, 2002 12:54 AM

I was just reminded, 150+ comments later, by my mother that this type of shabby behavior is really only displaying the character of who's doing it, and not you. Even though it probably still hurts.

And secondly, I hope you're going anyway. Seriously - who's going to say "No Wil, you can't come in." No one. You deserve to be there just as much as the rest of them do, in my opinion.

Posted by: Pandaman at December 10, 2002 12:56 AM

Wil,

I'll join everyone else here in sympathizing with you and sending mojo your way; it's either incredibly thoughtless or incredibly heartless (dependent upon whether your omission from the screening was intentional) of Berman to do that to you.

As much as this meant to you, though, let me try to put it into perspective for you:

Rick Berman is nothing without Star Trek. If this is truly the last TNG film (which would be a shame, rant to follow), I predict a dramatic downturn in his career. Consider:

DS9 has never had a film released in theatres.

Voyager has never had a film released in theatres.

Enterprise is not likely to have a movie released in theatres, not anytime in the near future.

TNG has had a tremendous following, largely due to the FOUR Trek films featuring its cast. If this is the last TNG film, it'll take a miracle (read: the reincarnation of Gene Roddenberry) to bring about new interest in the franchise. The fan base, albeit one of the largest in the world, will stagnate and perhaps dwindle down to a core of die-hard Trekkies.

He may not realize it, but without TNG, Berman is nothing.

You are more than Wesley Crusher.

You are more than Gordie Lachance, Joey Trotta, Dick Smith, and the co-host of Arena.

You will continue to act, to write, to create, to inspire.

Rick Berman took Gene Roddenberry's work -- a PREEXISTING CONCEPT -- and molded it into his image. He has no completely original works to his credit. If DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise didn't have the Star Trek tag, they would have gone the way of Babylon 5 much faster than they did/will.

Attending that premiere would've been a great chance to look back and remenisce, but keep that fact firmly in mind: you'd be looking BACK. Not ahead. It's certainly normal to feel slighted and even backstabbed, but don't let yourself wallow in it; that would be doing yourself a huge disservice.

People can be extremely callous. Rick Berman seems to be insensitivity made flesh.

You know what, though?

Fuck 'em. You're better than that. Everyone else here knows that. Somewhere inside, Berman knows that, too. If nothing else, Wil, remember this:

Rick Berman has yes-men.

Wil Wheaton has a posse.

Posted by: Jesse at December 10, 2002 12:57 AM

Wil,

I just hope you will get a chance to get together with your TNG friends soon.

Berman taking this opportunity away - that's a crime.

Posted by: tc at December 10, 2002 01:02 AM

First time I'm posting, Wil. Man, it does kind of suck, but you do get the karmic returns. You're doing right, being graceful and stuff - and good things will come of it.

Count up the good things that are going on in your life. The movie premiere might have been fun, but you have LAWN! And friends that'd help you put in the lawn. And friends that'd help you dig up a patch of that lawn to put a body under it if that became necessary. You know - real friends.

Here's another mojo-laden karmic thought at ya. Hope you get a call from Hanks and crew later this week.

Posted by: Mike Bryant at December 10, 2002 01:21 AM

Just remember, the people who REALLY count in your life, your wife, your kids, your family, your friends (some that helped you with your lawn this weekend!), and even us, your WWDN readers, we all see what a great guy you are, how talented you are, how deserving you are.

Keep your chin up, and keep slugging it out.

Posted by: Theo at December 10, 2002 01:22 AM

Wake up and smell the coffee Wil! I have worked in the entertainment industry on many different jobs and have never met a producer, director, etc. person that wastn't a sleazy worthless piece of shit deep down. The ones that have fooled everyone into thinking that they are nice guys are always the worst scum around. They will manipulate and twist you into giving them praise and credit that they don't deserve, all the while stabbing you in the back to further their careers. When they say they are sorry, they aren't. When they say they need you, they don't. You have got to stop believing these scumbags.

Posted by: Reg Barkley at December 10, 2002 01:22 AM

Berman is an asshole.

Every producer, director, etc., no matter how nice they might pretend to be, is an asshole.

Posted by: Roody at December 10, 2002 02:12 AM


well, that's pretty lame of the ST:TNG establishment. pretty damned low class, if you ask me.

however, all things considered, seeing the 'nemesis' posters... it looks pretty terrible anyway. kind of like they forgot to quit making 'em while they were at the high point. it might have been a decent script..... but... the final product looks a bit... sub-par.

so, all things considered, maybe you're better off not being associated with the flick? and if the reason you wanted to go was to see your friends from the cast, why not call some of them up to have a beer sometime?

just a thought.

cheer up. when i began reading, you had 187 posts from people who thing you're tops. and those are only the people who are posting--there's a whole lot more out there!

Posted by: katinlondon at December 10, 2002 02:50 AM

Hey,

this is just one of those things in life, we don't need to experience.

But Will...

make a list of 7 things, that are really important in your life. And if the Premiere isn't on that list: It doesn't matter!

This won't remove the bitterness of this mess, but the feelings of all the people here may give you a warm and gentle hug.

As the Wil we know from this Website, you will find your way through this all.

Keep your head up man!

Greetings from Germany,
Thomas

Posted by: Thomas at December 10, 2002 03:08 AM

gentle hugs, good thoughts.
be well head monkey - theres ypur gorgeous family, and the family of monkeys too, who love you...
of course it hurt - its your high school reunion you didnt get an invite to and worse....
but perspective to temper the hurt too sweet - so many monkeys rush to your defence!

Posted by: romana at December 10, 2002 03:09 AM

Sweet wonderful lovable Wil.

How many hugs before it's all better? Just tell me when and where :)

If they did not invite you on purpose, they are saying again, just as they said so many years ago, that they own you.

Were I you, I would call up the person who drew up the invitations and find out what happened to yours. Then, if I find that there was no directive to get into contact with you, I would call up the person in charge and say, "what the fuck?"

I would only find calm in knowing the truth.

Posted by: LadyMara at December 10, 2002 03:37 AM

I know this is so far down the post list it's probably pointless to leave it, but here goes.

To the underlings of Rick Berman who will no doubt read this thread when they catch wind of the shit-talking about you, I will NEVER again pay to see a movie that I know is putting money in your pocket. I was really juiced to see the new Trek, but anything with your name attached is permanently off my list. Maybe while you're scrolling through this to see what Wil's fans are saying about you, you'll see the heart we put into this underdog hero, and wonder why yours doesn't beat anymore.

Posted by: Roman Paul at December 10, 2002 04:01 AM

Hi there,
sorry to hear what happened about this, never mind, its his there i guess :(
why does he do those things to you? Not a nice person!
John from Ireland!

Posted by: John at December 10, 2002 04:21 AM

Wil, Gene Roddenberry wouldn't have done that to you. Real Trekkies miss him.

Posted by: Artisticspirit at December 10, 2002 04:31 AM

That so sucks....but hey, you have all of us monkeys, unlike Berman. We've known for years he's a low-down jerk. I know it hurts to be excluded, so many *hugs* from this way.

Posted by: Chewie at December 10, 2002 04:33 AM

God Wil. I'm so sorry. I know that doesn't even come *CLOSE* to making it better, but GOD...This just sucks.

Damn them. Damn *HIM*.

Grrr...

*hugs*

Athena

Posted by: Athena at December 10, 2002 04:59 AM

Dear Wil,

I know how it feels to be left out. It truly sucks. Rick Berman is not even worth thinking about. Fuck him. When someone hurts me, I always say to myself that I am a better person. At least you are a caring person. I guess it is something he lacks.

Just remember you always have your family. By the way, you should attend the premiere and show him that you are a better person than he will ever be.

Deejay

Posted by: Deejay528 at December 10, 2002 05:02 AM

Being number 200 on this list, you´ll probably not read this, but anyways.

Reading your site I am a bit surprised at your letting yourself being hurt by something like this. If you want to see your friends, invite them to your party. They´ll come. Don´t wait to be invited to their party.

Pretty much of the "pattern" you write about is in yourself. This site shows that if you go out and throw your own party, it is much better for you than if you wait to be invited to someone elses.

Cheers,

Oliver.

Posted by: oliver at December 10, 2002 05:07 AM

I am so sorry Wil. As I type this, all the mojo I can muster is en route to you.

And I weep for Star Trek too. Over the years I have seen the quality of the shows dwindle into nothing. And it pains me because I really loved Star Trek (past tense intended).

Berman is the true nemesis of Star Trek. He is the antithesis of Gene Roddenberry and a disgrace to all the good things Star Trek originally stood for. I guess all good things really must come to and end, hmmm?

I will do as someone suggested earlier. I will download the movie and watch it at home and nowhere else. The Star Trek franchise will not receive a single cent from me ever again. At least not as long as Rick Berman is involved.

Hail to you Wil for being such a wonderful, sensitive and REAL person.

Posted by: Nic T at December 10, 2002 05:09 AM

This sucks so badly Wil, I can't believe that they would do this to you again. I hate it when I get the feeling you're having right now. Rick should be ashamed of himself for this one! Truly ashamed.

Posted by: Wannabe American at December 10, 2002 05:15 AM

If I didn't know better I would almost swear that Mr. Berman was doing his best to alienate as many people from the franchise as possible doing what ever it takes to chip away from that which was Star Trek. It's truly sad that what is billed as the last mission for a generation can't include everyone who was there when the first mission started. In all his efforts to build his franchise, he forgot one very important thing. People count. I was actually excited that you were supposed to be in the movie, even though at first I didn't care for your charicter at first, but then there was some growth and you became one of my favorites. Now you won't be there and even if it was nothing more than 10 seconds on film, it would have meant a lot to many people, on both sides of the Wesley fence. I'm sorry for what has happened again and again and I really hope that Mr. B either finally figures it out or has it "explained" to him somehow so that we little guys don't have to keep watching him build (tear apart) the franchise.
Again I'm sorry Wil.

Posted by: Kevin at December 10, 2002 05:21 AM

Oh I would call the other cast. Would Frakes got to bat for you?

THIS REALLY F******G AFWUL!
BERMAN YOU SUCK!

Posted by: jen at December 10, 2002 05:23 AM

Babes

I am so sorry. It sucks when people walk over you like that, make you feel as though they are your friend and then when it matters they completly shit over you. It sucks and it Bad and Wrong.

All I can do is give you lots of positive vibes and a BIG HUGE HUGS.

Don't let them get you down, they ain't worth it, you have a wonderful wife, two gourgous kids who all love you, who needs Rick Berman... You don't.

Spike
1.26 GMT

Posted by: Beastly_spike at December 10, 2002 05:25 AM

I really can't think of anything to say right now... I mean, wow, that's just not fair. Not fair at all.

Posted by: Nadia at December 10, 2002 05:27 AM

Mojo Mojo Mojo!

Posted by: Nic T at December 10, 2002 05:31 AM

Wil,

This really sounds very much like an oversight. Given that you were actually meant to be in the film, and you ACTED in it, Berman must have intended to invite you to the premiere. Especially since he emphasised you would "still" come to the premiere - he can't have meant you were still coming to a *different* premiere, could he?

Check it out - there must have been something lost in communication, and it strikes me he must be a very busy man, especially at the moment. He would ask for a ticket to be sent to you (or whatever), and wouldn't think anything more of it. He probably wouldn't then check that Wil Wheaton was invited to the right premiere!

But, the thing is, you ARE a member of the cast, you ARE a member of Star Trek, and there are 70-80-odd episodes to prove it (and Star Trek Nemesis to boot!) Whoever the oversight was by, an oversight it *was*. Because you do genuinely belong there.

Looking at it more cosmically, this has happened for a reason. This seems like a hard lesson, but it's almost certainly very valuable too. Maybe sometimes life isn't there to justify and honoUr your legitimacy, but to improve you. I think this experience can improve you if you are thankful for it. Your personal trek should be (and is) forwards, through accepting life's lessons and improving as a consequence - not backwards by gratification and retrospection. Your trial has maybe brought you the better part, and is moving you boldly forward. Look at it as an adventure?

Posted by: marco at December 10, 2002 05:31 AM

Wil,

Forget Berman. He sounds like a Class 'A' asshole. When you talk to him next, for whatever reason, make it a point to bring this up, don't let him walk over you man. Despite what anyone might say about you and your impact on Star Trek, you have made a life for yourself that you should be proud of. You've got this site and the power of your readers behind you, you've got a family, you've got your health and you've got your friends. What else do you need? Sure it would've been nice to be included with the whole cast for the premiere of Nemesis, but there'll be other premiers. Ones where you're the star and can invite Patrick Stewart, John Frakes and the whole gang to the premiere/party of YOUR movie. Don't doubt that day will come. It will if you want it to. Well, i don't even know if you'll read this since it's down over 200 in the list, but I hope you do and that you take this for what it's worth. Take it from someone who's been on the short end of the stick a fair amount - one day you'll be the one holding the stick, and that day is on the way.

Ryan_W

Posted by: Ryan_W at December 10, 2002 05:43 AM

F--- that Berman guy. What a dick. Keep your head up Wil. This slight will get back at him... I'll send my homies in to key his car.

Zaggnutt

Posted by: Zaggnutt Jones at December 10, 2002 05:43 AM

I hope you / you should have went anyway. No one likes to feel left out of a group that once seemed so warm and comforting, and I'm sure the cast (the people who generate that feeling, not Mr. Beermom) would be enraged to know you'd been excluded, even if it was an "oversight." But aside from swallowing a little tension if you'd decided to "crash" the premiere, showing up once you knew about it would have two possible outcomes: You are welcomed openly by everyone, including those people you fear didn't want you there but may be genuinely unaware of the mistake. Or you are welcomed openly by everyone you really care about and the other people who decided to snub you wouldn't dare throw you out in full view of the cast and public, so they are left to stew in their own greasy self-absorbing juices.

Just my 2cp. Looking forward to seeing you on the DVD. :-)

ojo

Posted by: Kitesawa at December 10, 2002 05:45 AM

Geez, Wil, that sucks. I'm so sorry.

Maybe it will cheer you up to know that my husband and i were watching ARENA last night, and laughing VERY, VERY hard. You are one funny mofo. (Our favorite joke of the evening, "That defense is about as effective as the rhythym method."

I hope you feel a bit better soon.

Posted by: jess at December 10, 2002 05:50 AM

I am starting to thing that fucking Rick Berman is
afraid of you!!!!

YOU HAVE US MONKEYS..MORE THAN 5000 STRONG!!!

WHAT DOES HE HAVE?

BOYCOTT!!!

Posted by: bluecat/redblanket at December 10, 2002 05:58 AM

Just call him and ask him about it. If he has the guts to tell you that he doesn't want you at the premiere, tell him ok and bye bye.

Really, you don't need him at all. As many people have written above, you have got a posse! =)

Posted by: SleepwalkR at December 10, 2002 06:01 AM

Err, forgot to add: If you feel bad, or get upset, he's got what he wants. If you stay calm and polite, he hasn't gotten it. And word will spread, anyway. The other cast members will wonder why you weren't there I guess.

Posted by: SleepwalkR at December 10, 2002 06:03 AM

Do you have Berman's home address, phone number, and/or email address? Post them, dude!

I think everyone here should be allowed to tell that assfuck what we think of him.

Posted by: Shawn at December 10, 2002 06:07 AM

A bit late here, but...

*mojo*

Posted by: ionicus at December 10, 2002 06:11 AM

Good mojo coming your way. That's all I can do.

Posted by: thepaguy at December 10, 2002 06:14 AM


I have it from reliable sources that Rick Berman is responsible for the hole in the Ozone layer, pop muzak and Michael Jackson's face.

Posted by: Bethany at December 10, 2002 06:23 AM

..::Major Monkey Mojo::..

Posted by: thedragon at December 10, 2002 06:23 AM

Don't even worry about it. The important thing is that your castmates think you're great, we think you're great and your family think you're great! Reread that post you made about you & your wife in the rain - that'll cheer you up. Oh, and if it doesn't then just repeat this useful phrase (preferably while looking at a photo of Rick Berman)...
"I hope all your children have very small dicks, including the girls..."

Posted by: eddy at December 10, 2002 06:24 AM

Wil,

Sorry to hear that your arm and back hurt. Take care of yourself. Remember, if you don't have your health, you haven't got anything. All the rest of that stuff doesn't really matter.

P.S. I look forward to seeing in "Polar Express"
;)

Posted by: Godwin the Good at December 10, 2002 06:25 AM

All I know is I would never let them see that it hurts.
The show and movies suck anyway, I wouldn't go to one of their movies if someone paid me.
All the movies suck and so does the other spinoffs.
I think I'll stick with Sliders.
Just remember whatever they do to you comes back three times worse.
I really missed you when you were on the show and it just got really stupid after that.
so cheer up, you're much better than those losers, even if you consider them "friends" friends don't do that to friends period.
I'll always be a fan of yours forever.
sharon "nanny"

Posted by: Nanny at December 10, 2002 06:32 AM

I was so excited for you that you got the audition yesterday. And then reading that you got shafted...again makes me so mad.

Wil, we all love you. Really we do.

Melissa
p.s. mojo, mojo, mojo

Posted by: Melissa at December 10, 2002 06:36 AM

Wil,

Okay, this officially sucks. But, you are going to live through this. Ask yourself "What would Patrick do?" (WWPD) He's a class act and has probably had stuff like this happen to him, too.

Next, face what everyone else has told you here -- that you are totally blessed with so many good things in your life. They outweigh the actions of a man whose word by now should officially be worth nothing to you. He's proven by his actions that you and he are not "friends" and next time he wants to talk to you, he can contact you through your agent -- that's what agents are for, right?

But you have better things to do than mope about this. Don't get me wrong -- when I read your entry today I quailed inside because shit like that happens even to the best of us. It doesn't reflect on YOU unless you let it. It reflects on Mr. Berman. But, you have many more things that he does not -- and the sooner you recognize that fact, the better. He has an ailing franchise that is losing viewers (I, for one, won't be seeing the movie -- and now his actions have given me one more reason not to see it.) He has proven that he can be manipulated by audience feedback and the groveling of his yes-people.

You, at least, have shown that you do think for yourself -- and while you have a lot of us out there who count you among our online friends and acquaintances -- you also have your own inner sense of self and worth. Build on that, man.

Finally, whatever Berman does to you is NOT your fault. So don't beat yourself up. Yes, be upset, acknowledge your feelings as you have done -- and then move on.

Maybe I've spoken a bit too harshly here, but Wil -- I am also sending good, mature woman mojo to you... you're worth it!

Oh, and another finally: I just read your update to yesterday's entry and really quailed with you when I saw your notes about the audition. Can you ask for a re-audition and explain that you were not in good shape physically? Or is this one of those Hollywood macho things that "if he acts through his pain, then he's good to go"? they must have seen you somewhere -- hell, maybe Tom or Mr. Z read your blog, eh?

Okay, today's a new day. Go out there and BE Wil Wheaton the MAN, and let Berman and his silly antics fall behind you.

Posted by: spacewriter at December 10, 2002 06:39 AM

Sucks large, Wil.

Too bad it was too late to get the rest of the cast to boycott for you.

Posted by: Mr_Frosty at December 10, 2002 06:39 AM

now THAT was a lot of love wil.....

if you've had a chance to read over the last 200+ posts, and i figure, since it's your site, you probably have...
you should be feeling pretty damn good about yourself right about now...

a list was started a few posts ago...I'll add a few things now...

8) you've become an author with a fairly huge built in audience, and a virtual stage from which to promote.....something most writers would KILL for..any book you put out will have an audience...that's pretty damn cool....

9) writer/actor/host of arena/ comedy/drama/.....man....tha's a truckload of talent you got there laddy...
something else that you can not only be proud of, but take to the frickin bank...
plenty of other folks out there in hollywood, y'know....hell...some you probably know quite well dont have the talents you have...or the website...or the fan-base....remember 90210?...yeah...i hardly do either..what happened to all those folks?...are THEY getting callbacks?...have THEY got a HUGE online following?...have THEY got a book coming out?
no..
they dont...

kinda shows how far up the ladder you are...
if you take the time to think about it...

success isn't measured by the premieres you go to....
or the pary invitations...

success is measured by more important things...
like how much your kids love you...and your wife....
and how much joy you bring to those that follow your career...where ever it takes you...

Posted by: Tyson at December 10, 2002 06:40 AM

-wil.youaremyfriend.com

better than a sharp stick in the eye!

-with respect, theodore william bauer.

you know how i feel about rick and all...blah.

Posted by: theodore william bauer at December 10, 2002 06:42 AM

-from my point of view...to leave wes un'visited' after the ep with the traveler...was just plain old crap.

so there.

-you 'are' part of the family.

hang in there.

Posted by: theodore william bauer at December 10, 2002 06:49 AM

As sad as this is, I'm wondering how much more it would have hurt if you had gone to the Wednesday screening expecting to be part of something bigger, and how you would be in a totally different place and state of mind today if your friend had happened to call you a couple days earlier, or if he hadn't called at all. Life is so strange sometimes: How do we get from where we were yesterday to where we are today, here, now? A chance phone call, a misplaced invitation, an unexpected encounter with a patch of poison oak, and suddenly your whole path into the future changes. This may not help at all with what you might be feeling right now, but thanks for sharing your ups and downs with us; hearing about what's going on in someone's heart day to day is a whole lot more interesting and instructive than most of the stuff that gets put on film these days, and if it's any consolation, you're helping to take us there. Thanks, and best of everything to you.

Posted by: Mark at December 10, 2002 06:54 AM

Wil, you've got more brains, talent, and charisma in your little pinkey than Rick Berman could ever hope to have. Don't let it get you down. You'll come out on top in the long run.

Posted by: Nancy at December 10, 2002 06:56 AM

This Berman guy is a fucking prick. Whether it's deliberate or an "oversight," he's treating you (repeatedly) like shit. This makes me really angry.

Well, don't take it personally. You can be sure that this guy treats everyone this way, unless he has something to gain from acting differently. He is quite obviously a self-centered asshole.

...not that I have any feelings about it or anything. ;)

I don't know what the impact on your career would be, but you should call him on it in some way. Tell him he hurt your feelings and mistreated you, and don't let him give you some bullshit answer.

Posted by: J at December 10, 2002 06:59 AM

That makes it hard to think that the amount of times you have been worked over is purely by accident.

It sucks.. it sucks rocks, and I am sorry.

Berman doesn't understand the power of this community.

Posted by: Josh at December 10, 2002 07:00 AM

Man I feel so bad for you you have no idea. I grew up watching you on television. You will always be one of the special memories of my life. It is so refreshing to see that you are a down to earth normal person and not a typical stuck up celebrity. Wesley may have sucked... but you are really cool. You're too good for Hollywood dude. If you don't do drugs or act like an ass you can't succeed in that town. I know how it feels to get overlooked man. Keep your chin up... there are a lot more people that care about you than you know. You don't need those assholes anyway.

Posted by: DougIndy at December 10, 2002 07:01 AM

Wil,
I read this last night and have been trying to think of a way to tell you how sorry I am and how dissapointed I am in Berman. The latter is not a new feeling. I don't think there is anything I could say that hasn't already been said by an overwheling amount of your posse.

I have been watching TNG since I was 6yrs. old. You are just as much a part of the universe as Data, Picard, ect. Your character meant so much to so many people, even if it was to unify in hate against you (sorry, i am a reformed wesley hater). You are so much more than that, though. Berman never will be. No one, no one, NO ONE likes Berman for who he is as a person. And he certainly doesn't even come close to you in regards to talent, strength of character, integrity, and wit.

I am a newcomer to the site, but I know without hesitation that you are reaping the rewards of your talent and persistance.

Count your blessings.

Your posse loves you.

Posted by: rebecca at December 10, 2002 07:06 AM

What a sin! Don't let it be in vain, use it to be perfectly awful next time it comes up. Bitch it up, Wil!

Posted by: Jessie at December 10, 2002 07:08 AM

Wil,

You get so many replies, I don't know if this one will reach you. So many have already said what I feel, "keep your head high" and "I'm sorry" that saying those from myself to you would be redundant. However, perhaps I can offer you this:

At various points in my life, I have been left out. As a child I would be told by my parents that when I was an adult, things would be better. I wouldn't have the problem of people whom I thought were my friends pointedly NOT inviting me to birthday parties, baseball games or simple sleep-overs. Still, that wasn't true. As an adult, it did happen again, whether out of pettiness, oversight or mere bad timing, such occurances still seem to grow and overwhelm me when they happen.

But I draw strength from what I do have. I'm single and live in a rented room, but I have really good friends who are like a family to me. When I sit down to work on a role-playing game, I can feel that spark of engagement that comes with creating something new and exciting. When I cook, I smile to myself, knowing that I've explored this hobby as an art form and can do things with cusine that many, many folk can't do and would be happy to experience.

It doesn't make the hurt go away; that's for sure. And every time it happens, it feels like a part of me is aching and empty. But it does help me through those times. Those happy relationships and ideals are the planks in a bridge that spans the gap caused by being left out and ignored.

You have a wife, children, great computer skills (you PHP God, you), talent in both acting and improv comedy, and a history with some truly great friends and collegues. None of that will really fill that gap right now, but I hope that they'll provide a bridge for you to make it to a resolution.

Take care,
Dave Rust
Minneapolis, Minnesota

Posted by: Dave Rust at December 10, 2002 07:14 AM

That hurts. I've been ditched before, and even though it looks like conspiracy, it's usually because of one asshat's cruel whim. If it's unintentional, it's still a helluva disappointment. I sympathize.

Posted by: Joseph at December 10, 2002 07:15 AM

Not that you need another person jumping up and shouting "those assholes!" but I also wanted to say that what they did to you stinks, and I hope one of the other cast members says something about it. I mean, wow, what assholes. But hey, i'm a diehard next gen fan and i refuse to go see that movie. i refuse to take part in anything having to do with that movie. or anything else star trek for a very long time. solidarity and all :)

Posted by: Finley at December 10, 2002 07:15 AM

Dude!
people over at the trekBBS support you too (I am one of them of course)

here is the link:

http://www.trekbbs.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/007574.html

Posted by: Matteo at December 10, 2002 07:18 AM

One of the most terrible things that can happen to a person, I think, is that he gets so caught up in a job or in some artificial goal that he forgets what is real and what matters, and what doesn't. That's when Star Trek becomes more important than the people who made it. That's when Wil Wheaton ceases to be a person with feelings and a soul, and is simply a source of profits, a cost-benefit calculation. (This, at least, is what the situation seems like to me.)

Perhaps you can take comfort in the knowledge that you will never do that to others - you will never forget that the people you deal with are *people*. You know what's important.

Posted by: Yael at December 10, 2002 07:30 AM

1) I would go and watch the look on his face. That alone would be worth it. 2) Remember, WE, your fans never forget you. 3) Someday he will be out of a job, nothing to do, read WIL WHeATON DOT NET and realize that some people have fans long after Star Trek....and he is not one of them.

Posted by: Steve at December 10, 2002 07:31 AM

Wil,

I don't have the words to adequately describe the disgust and loathing that Mr. Berman has created in me through actions just like this. He made a promise to you. Whether it was a mistake or intentional, he failed to keep that promise. He's treated you wrongly, just as he's treated the franchise wrongly in many ways.

But ...

He's not worth crying over. I really liked the suggestion of calling the rest of the cast and making your own premiere happen. And DON'T invite Berman. Have fun with your friends, ignore your enemies. It really ticks them off. ;-)

Posted by: Rob at December 10, 2002 07:31 AM

Jesus man, I'm so sorry.=( That sucks, I really hope it was just a mistake. I hope this doesn't get you too down, just remember you've got a ton of fans here and all over and from what I understand, most of the cast of TNG loves you too, so if Rick B. told you the wrong day on purpose, to hell with him. Sending cheer-up mojo to Wil!=o) ((BIG HUG!!))

Ashley

Posted by: Ashley at December 10, 2002 07:33 AM

Wil,

That was wrong, simply wrong. After all the contributions you've made to the series/fans, there is absolutely no reason for you to have been excluded from this event. My heart goes out to you.

Lorien

Posted by: LorienWillow at December 10, 2002 07:39 AM

I wish I was in LA. If I was, I'd be organizing a FREE WIL WHEATON protest at this premier.

Wil Wheaton has a posse, and wherever Rick Berman goes, we will be.

MOjo!

Posted by: kittycat at December 10, 2002 07:43 AM

Wil - tough break, man.. Berman really seems like his assholisness has been growing with every passing year.

MMMMMMOOOOOOOJJJJJJJOOOOOO!

Posted by: Aatrek at December 10, 2002 07:44 AM

Does it surprise you? Berman and his monkey bitch boy Brannon Braga have totally ruined the franchise, all under the guise of trying to reach a “broader based audience” (which translates into white, straight males, by the way). They’ve kowtowed to the Paramount brass that think sex will save Enterprise (we don’t need any great writing. Just throw more sex into it, as long as it’s straight sex), who think the cast of DS9 cannot support a movie (which they can, if they get Ronald Moore, Ira Steven Behr and Rene Echevarria back- but they won’t because they produce quality work and think on there own, a commodity Paramount cannot deal with), who have screwed you like a whore, who think producing a bland film that Nemesis looks like, will bring in people who are not Trek fans. Berman has let the franchise and the fans down. He spouts Paramount propaganda in his sleep and has lost the ability to actually understand what fans want. He continues to ignore gays and slaps us again with the upcoming AIDS allegory Stigma (by giving T’Pol some obscure disease. I suppose it’s logical, but it’s another slap in face. And while AIDS is no longer considered a gay disease, it still seems that they want to ignore us queers) and claims why will never see a same-sex couple on Trek: ''That was really the wishful thinking of some people who were constantly at us,'' Enterprise producer Rick Berman says. ''But we don't see heterosexual couples holding hands on the show, so it would be somewhat dishonest of us to see two gay men or lesbians holding hands.'' Fine, we don’t need them holding hands, but show us that gays actually live in the future. But, that won’t fit into that “broader audience” demo that Paramount wants. The UK website The Great Link has said it best: "If you take the most boring parts of Voyager’s 6th and 7th seasons, remove all the excitement and add re-hashes of as many old Trek plots as you can find, you have Brannon Braga’s foundation for Enterprise. This show is so safe, so middle of the road that it challenges nothing, asks no ‘great’ questions, upsets and insults no one. It’s a wonder why it’s even made. The franchise didn’t need to die, at the most it needed a bit of a hair cut, but now it’s deader than dead cow”

So, Wil, I ask you again, are you surprised? We’ll always remember you. We will complain when Berman and Braga ignore you, but because you are intelligent and compassionate and honest, because you stand up for what you believe in, because you won’t compromise your values, the people at Paramount will never see as anything but a disruptive former employee.

It’s their loss. You keep on doing what you’re doing.

Posted by: Electric Monk at December 10, 2002 07:48 AM

I'll keep this short. Everyone's saying what a jerk Berman is, but it really could've been an oversight, like the post from "marco" above. Until you talk to some more people, it's all speculation, colored by your sensitivity to be excluded and feeling like the odd man out in the past.

And although crashing the premiere when you're under the impression you were deliberately snubbed might be satisfying in some respects, that kind of spite wouldn't reflect well on you, so I hope you took the high road.

Go to the one you got the ticket for, the one for all the "little" people. Who knows, it might turn out to be really cool. Take some people with you who you know are good friends.

Posted by: Mike Brown at December 10, 2002 07:57 AM

Peace, Bro....

Posted by: Artman at December 10, 2002 07:57 AM

have you mentioned this to any of your friends from the series...don't underestimate them...they might be upset too if they knew what was going on...if i was one of them i'd like to think i'd do the same thing as a movie star as i would as i would as a non-movie star...i 'd tell 'em to get you an invitation or i'm staying home...but maybe things really are different in showbizland...maybe brent, patrick, michael, levar, gates, martina and bill aren't what they seem...why do i think maybe you'd be better off hanging out with shatner...i was planning to attend a couple of showings of "nemisis" opening weekend...now maybe i'll have to be a no show until later...but if they don't care enough about you to invite you to the premiere...i know they sure has hell won't give a damn what i do...but i dammit...i wish i could ease the hurt...'cause i've been hurt like that before...and i know it feels awful...just try to get even by getting happy as soon as you can.

Posted by: d.burr at December 10, 2002 07:57 AM

dispensing with the sympathies, which have been well-indulged in (and which i do feel), i have but two questions:

a) what did you wind up doing?

and b) how are you feeling now?

Posted by: jenny at December 10, 2002 08:01 AM

Ouch! at the "oversight." I'm not shocked, but I am disappointed as a recovering Star Trek fan (the original and TNG) that you were excluded from the movie and from the premiere.
Ouch! at the review linked by bluecav. Again, I'm not shocked. I think the Enterprise hit a big bump when Berman 'n' Co. took over the franchise... and the movies to date have yet to prove me wrong. It's all rather unfortunate, but All Good Things must come to an end, I suppose.

Posted by: theonlyjuan at December 10, 2002 08:01 AM

Pardon my grammar. I'm not usually up this early.

Posted by: Mike Brown at December 10, 2002 08:05 AM

Don't go. Just give it up, man. You should take your family out to a nice dinner, have a little red wine, and bask in the loveliness of life. It's only a Star Trek movie, you know? I mean, come on. Go live your life.

Posted by: The Woodsman at December 10, 2002 08:16 AM

I'm not a Star Trek fan, but I was going to see this film because of you. Then you were cut...but I thought I still might see it, just because you spoke highly of it.

Now, all bets are off.

That sucks.

Posted by: Shannon at December 10, 2002 08:18 AM

Dear Wil
Please don't be sad.
I can tell you this and mayby it will cheer you up a small bit :) That Enterprise the new show bermans baby is not doing well (it SUCKS BIG TIME just go to trekBBS and you'll se what trekkers think about it (and berman).

Do you read trekBBS on www.trektoday.com ???????
(i know you get TONS of these questions but please answer)


stay cool :)
and dont give "them" the enjoyment of you being sad
Martina from sweden

Posted by: Martina from sweden at December 10, 2002 08:19 AM

Wil,

I've never dropped you a comment before, but your recent post has made me set digital pen to paper....

I won't comment on Berman, as I do not know him, suffice to say that all you are as a person rests on how well you keep your word and treat the world around you. This maybe neglect or an oversight, it may be deliberate, it may just be that his word is simply not good...I don't know and in truth, you don't either.

Berman aside, Wil, bluntly, you need to let go of this crap. You cannot continue to define yourself by these things - auditions that don't go your way, an old TV show whose legacy dogs you - these are NOT you, they may shape you, they may influence you, they may even be a part of your life but they DO NOT DEFINE WHO WIL WHEATON IS. You do that. Not Star Trek, not Berman, not 100 premieres...just you.

Now you can take this event and embrace it and worry it like a dog with a bone, giving us more angst-filled posts to read, or you can let it go, dust yourself off and LIVE YOUR DAMN LIFE.

I don't mean to sound harsh, and I know how much personal hurt this event probably gives you but welcome to the world, everybody gets hurt. You can't prevent the hurt, you can only control how you deal with it and what you learn from it.

So don't go to the Paramount showing. Either call them up and confront the premiere issue head-on (if you really want to go), or if you just don't want to fight that war, then say to hell with it and go see the movie in the theatre with a real audience, enjoy watching your friends on screen and savor the fact that you were a part of something big, something special, that you helped contribute to something that gives great joy and fun to millions...then go home and build something for yourself, build your own life, your own path, your own way.

I'll shut up now...and go back to lurking.

Best of luck Wil

Sincerely,

Dean

Posted by: Dean at December 10, 2002 08:27 AM

Oh, Wil, that hurts.

I hope the word doth spread and the movie fizzles.

I want to know who stood up for you. Did Spiner say "Why isn't WIl here?" Did McFadden, Frakes, or Sirtis? Who else is in the movie? Any minor but beloved characters like Reg Barclay, or Chief O'Brien, or Quark, or Alexander, or The Doctor, or a Denise Crosby character -- did those actors attend the premiere?

Your friend, who chats with Marina, did your friend call to give you a heads up? To rub it in?

Look how many blogger friends have stood up for you. They are ready to storm the Paramount castle. To give the studio the grief that befell Creation Cons. To tell them that the fans want Wesley to get some respect. To tell them that Wil Wheaton won't just crumple beneath their wheels.

Yeah, I hated Wesley because the writers who needed to make him look super genius couldn't and then dumbed down the rest of the cast to make Wes look smarter. Then the whole episode sucked because I spent an hour with a TV concept I cared about, one that celebrated smart ideas, only to think that Starfleet must be manned by a buncha retards. I watched anyway.
I like Wil, though. I think Wil is da man, and if his blog persona isn't quite Wil's real self ("Drakensykh" isn't my real self either, ya know), I am still inspired every day when I come and read his posts.

I have been at each Trek movie on opening night because its fun to go with the Trekkies who come in uniform. I'll never forget seeing Sulu fire phasers at Reliant for the first time, and feeling the theatre erupt with huge cheers. (Trek movies are best when there's a story, and a crew, and the freakin' equipment works.)

I'm skipping this one. I'm angry Wil was cut. I'm angry he wasn't invited to the premiere. I'm angry the franchise is sucking so much. Star Trek has my support. Not Paramount or Berman. I'll catch it on cable -- when I get cable.

Enuf rambling. I'm just angry.

Posted by: Drakensykh at December 10, 2002 08:31 AM

Damn, Wil. That sucks. A few thoughts, most of which overlap with what other people have said.
1. You got screwed, and you should definitely feel hurt about it. Don't pretend it doesn't hurt, 'cause it does, and that's okay.
2. Right now there are tons of people sending you mojo. People who feel betrayed and hurt right alongside you, because we've come to know you as a stand-up guy, with real feelings, who deserves a hell of a lot better.
3. Right now there is no one sending Rick Berman mojo. He's proved time and again that he's not worth our time.
4. This may very well have lasting repercussions. I'm picturing all the hundreds of Star Trek conventions that will take place in the next few years. Rick Berman speaks, then takes questions from the audience.
"Yes, you in the Klingon garb?"
"Why did you lie to Wil Wheaton? You have no honor!"
"Er... How about the Vulcan over there?"
"Mr. Berman, it was illogical to tell Wil Wheaton that he was invited to the premiere of Nemesis if he was not. Why did you engage in such deception?"

Similarly, the first question asked of anyone even remotely related to Star Trek should henceforth be "Why is Rick Berman such a tool?".

Take care, Wil. Just remember that you're part of a huge-ass community that cares about you, and Berman's all alone. So very, very alone.

-Scrumpy Jack
(long-time listener, first-time caller)

Posted by: Scrumpy Jack at December 10, 2002 08:33 AM

Uncle Willie,

Who loves ya baby? We do. Nothing more to say...it's already been said here and then said again. By the way, Dean's post said it well. All that's left is for you to soak up all the good mojo me and my friend Manny are sending your way!

Cheerio,

Nephew Eric

Posted by: Nephew Eric at December 10, 2002 08:33 AM

Total B.S. I'm so sorry Wil. There's nothing I can say that hasn't been said before, just throwing my support behind you, too. *HUGS* We love ya, Wil.

Posted by: Annakie at December 10, 2002 08:39 AM

wow. sorry that happened to you.

Posted by: Lice at December 10, 2002 08:40 AM

Sending big hugs your way. Sorry man.

Posted by: epod at December 10, 2002 08:44 AM

* BETTER DAYS MOJO *

Posted by: galestorm at December 10, 2002 08:47 AM

I'll say it before and I'll say it again: Berman sucks. He sucked in the past. He sucks now. He will always suck.

By the way, don't feel too bad about Nemesis. It will be a ripoff of Khan, not a homage. Can't even come up with a story to fit a 90 minute running time, which is why we need a crappy "B" story with Data. B-4?? Hahahaha, excuse me while I throw up from the "subtlety". B-4...like "before". Get it?? Haha..shall I hit you over the head with the irony?

Wil... run away from Trek. They're not worth it.

Posted by: Bill at December 10, 2002 08:49 AM

I was hurt for you just reading your words, maybe tonight the national mojo focus will be on you huh? Buy the ticket, take the ride.

Posted by: D at December 10, 2002 08:53 AM

You were always my favorite. I watched because of you. There you were, a star trek character around my age. Smart, funny, good looking. More interesting than anyone on the ship as far as I cared. (though I liked tasha yar too). I watched because of you.

plus I had the biggest crush on you!

I would have gone to see the movie if you were in it. I don't know that I will bother now.

anyway, it sucks. But people love you. They love the character you played and the person you are now.

maybe you should have your own private screening full of people that love you. Invite the other cast members if you want.

Posted by: Pixi at December 10, 2002 08:54 AM

Wil,what can I say that others haven't already said more eloquently.I'm sorry man.Just don't let it preoccupy you and prevent you from doing all the other really cool stuff you seem to be doing these days.And I must admit I'm actually looking forward to your book more than the movie!

Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2002 08:58 AM

Hi Wil

First time Poster!!!

I got this link from the interview at the Force.net and thought that I'd give it a look.

I was actually looking forward to seeing Wes back in a Next Gen movie as he was always a good character IMO, I like it.

To find out you got cut and then dumped on by some trumped up exec like Berman sucks ass man.

I've never thought that I'd ever write to a 'star' like this where I knew that they would read what I thought.

Keep your head high bro, from looking at everything here you got heaps going right, family, friends, a new yard :D and to top it all, a lot of people who think that what has happened sucks.

Ya can't change the past but you can look to the future and know that someday it's all gonna fall into place.

I wish you all the best in the world dude, don't get too down, there's us lot who still think of you and don't like it when you, or anyone else gets treated like crap.

Peace Bro

Mark

Posted by: Mark at December 10, 2002 08:58 AM

Hey, they're not just auctioning your shirt. They've got your communicator too!

http://cgi.sothebys.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2150005423

Posted by: Shawn at December 10, 2002 08:59 AM

Wil,

What goes around, comes around. Berman will get his in the end...and you will go on to have a wonderful, fulfilling life surrounded by a family who loves you. That's is just about the best any of us could ever hope for. He'll be remember for his jerkiness.

Posted by: Devon at December 10, 2002 09:00 AM

Once again, you hurt and your monkey are here to support you, Wil.

I would be bidding on the Iron Maiden if I had the money - It's a piece of ST:TNG history and YOU are a BIG part of it. At times like these concentrate on the positive and the wonderful time you had with your friends while shooting the scenes that later ended up on the cutting room floor. I know, easy to say, but do try - If you need a little reminder just read the interview you gave to theForce website (lined in your previous posting).

Posted by: SpaceCadet at December 10, 2002 09:00 AM

I meant "your MONKEYS" (plural ;)

And one more thing, Wil - I know that going to the premier was a big thing (as mentioned by you in the same interview), but your perspective on this will change with time (as it did with how and why you left the show).

I'm ending my rant.

Posted by: SpaceCadet at December 10, 2002 09:03 AM

Hi Wil,

Sorry to hear about your bad news but you have so many good things going on in your life. You have been able to move on since Star Trek unlike Berman who is trying to think up more and more ways to keep it going until he eventually kills it. You have your family, you have your book and you even had an audition for a Tom Hanks movie. You also have a huge fan base who believe in you and know that you are a success. I know it hurts to be left out of something that at one time you were a huge part of but you have more than that now.

Posted by: Karen(Scotland) at December 10, 2002 09:08 AM

Blame the secretary at Paramount. One thing, I suggest you do not attend tonight's crew premiere. Look at it this way, Jonathan was not there...you might call yourself a Frakes no-show.

Posted by: ze-mag at December 10, 2002 09:09 AM

Wil, everyone's said everything already but I can tell you this:

I know what it feels like to be left out at the last minute and to be lied to etc when dealing with projects and work that one really really cares about, and I've cried over variations of the same issue.

People can be such horrible monsters...

I guess I'm saying that I feel for you entirely because I know where you're coming from...

Hugs and all winging their way to you now from England...

Posted by: Glovefox at December 10, 2002 09:11 AM

Screw Rick Berman. If it wasn't for Gene Rodenberry, Rick would be a nobody. He has completely ruined Star Trek, and he should be stripped and beaten with a cane, until he calls you "DADDY"! He is a lying sack of shit, and he should be treated as so. The reigns of Star Trek should be taken away from him and given to Majel Rodenberry. This way Star Trek wont be ruined, and Gene can stop rolling in his urn.

Posted by: Terry at December 10, 2002 09:11 AM

Hey Wil!

That really sucks! You deserve a lot more than these big cheesy producers are willing to give. Don't feel down about this. After all, you have a lot of fans here who think that you have a place in Star Trek, and all Rick Berman has is a lot of people who think he sucks.

Matt

Posted by: Matt at December 10, 2002 09:12 AM

I was so excited to hear that you were going to be in the upcoming movie. Then, like all true Wil Wheaton fans, was completely devastated to find out your scene was cut. WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING !!!!! CUT YOU!!!! FUCK THEM !!!!! You know, I think I'll be too busy on the 13th to give them any of my money.

Posted by: Kristen at December 10, 2002 09:12 AM

Oh God, Wil, that really sucks! Rick Berman is a shithead, either way. Whether it was on purpose or by accident. I met the guy in person once and really got the feeling that he was full of himself but I had no idea he was such a dick! You deserved to be there and Berman deserves a swift kick in the balls. I am so sorry.

I forever will be and always have been a Wil Wheaton fan,
Tracey

Posted by: Tracey at December 10, 2002 09:12 AM

Hey Wil,

I don't really post to the blog much anymore, but I just wanted to throw in my support on this one. It's just stunning to think Berman may have done this again after it seemed like things had been going better with him. I hoping that at this point that you've found something out about what happened and that the hurt has subsided a little bit. This will pass, and you still have all the great things going on now!

Posted by: Soapbox Jon at December 10, 2002 09:19 AM

Wil,

SNAP OUT OF IT! You could be working with Zemekis and Tom Hanks shortly! That's a big deal! Concentrate on the POSITIVE things going on my friend.

Chris

Posted by: Christopher Feyrer at December 10, 2002 09:19 AM

You _have_ to move on dude. Leave it behind.

It's rather like going to an office party after you have left the company.

Throw yourself into new things and let trek go.

Posted by: rb at December 10, 2002 09:21 AM

Alright, that does it! Berman has stuck it into Wil's butt for the LAST time as far as I'm concerned. I was thinking about catching Nemesis in this theater this weekend, but now I think I'll just hold off until the DVD comes out (and it BETTER have the cut scene with Wesley in the "Deleted Scenes" section).


Posted by: Michael Hirtes at December 10, 2002 09:25 AM

This from an online chat transcript at www.startrek.com:

Gates McFadden
"Beverly Crusher"
12.06.02

Star Trek Host: Will you be at the "Nemesis" premiere?

Gates McFadden: I will be at the Los Angeles premiere.

Posted by: Joe Nobody at December 10, 2002 09:28 AM

Hey Wil,

I'm so sorry they treated you that way. Has anyone from Paramount called to apologize/explain?

Does anyone else find it bitterly ironic that someone creating tales about a sickeningly Utopian society (The Federation) can be so sickeningly petty and uncaring in real life?

If it helps at all, you have 50,000 monkeys who would be more than happy to spread the word and make this a P.R. nightmare for the suits at Paramount.

(((hugs)))
Lara

Posted by: MsRetro at December 10, 2002 09:34 AM

hey you were in that show i though i saw a big peice of poo rinning around no wonder they do not acknolodege you and oh by the way i need to reson my ass can you give me any tips

Posted by: Elizabeth at December 10, 2002 09:45 AM

Wil,

I take it "Rick" is the Berman fella whose name features regularly on futuristic writing at the end of the ST shows, and who presumably pockets 30 cents for every ST dollar made.

So let's have the low-down. Does he have body odour? Bad teeth? Fart a lot? Come on, spill it.

Posted by: Rob at December 10, 2002 09:45 AM

Mr Berman should have played it straight with you.

Have any of the other people called you back? Mr Spiner, for example?

I will say that Wesley Crusher was not my favorite character and I did not like some of the Wesley plots written into ST:TNG. That being said I respect what you did with what you had to work with, and that is the mark of a fine actor.

You've had many people tell you their opinion of Mr Berman. Mine is that he is a manager warming the seat of a pioneer. A pioneer by definition does something new, a manager caretakes something established. Managers don't expand horizons, they entrench current boundaries.

Life is pain. Life is pleasure. The trick is remembering the pleasure when experiencing the pain.

I may see Nemesis in the theatre, I may not. That said, if the DVD restores the parts you are in I am quite likely to watch that.

Be well, Wil.

Posted by: Jacob at December 10, 2002 09:59 AM

Oh Honey, I'm so sorry! You sure got a lot of hits on this one, everyone of us feels like your actual friend and I bet none of us would do that to you. You've come a long way since TNG, you were getting to be ok with who you were post TNG & moving on, don't let an asshole like Rick the Dick take that growth away from you. If the other cast members are truly your friends they would contact you, hell I know more about whats going on in your personal life than those people. Burn the suit in effigy and make the T-shirts, then move on and know we love ya.

Posted by: Angela at December 10, 2002 10:03 AM

Concentrate on things that are really important...like your wife and children. Trust me, there is no better attention out there in the world.

Star Trek is/was just a job; you can still see all you co-stars; get together; whatever. Don't let the Rick Berman thing get you down!

Posted by: A FRIEND at December 10, 2002 10:08 AM

Well it's official now, Rick Berman is the devil.

I love ya Wheaton! *hugs*

Posted by: Em at December 10, 2002 10:08 AM

You probably have something that man my husband refers to as .... well those things shouldn't be repeated. Anyway, look at these comments. We're here for you, Wil. If a person does not keep his word, then he generally does not get much empathy or a lot of friends available to him to cry on the virtual shoulders of or otherwise, but YOU DO. We're here. We listen.

At least I do.
WS

Posted by: WolfSong at December 10, 2002 10:11 AM

I was actually going to go see "Nemesis" in the theater and now I am so NOT inspired to do so...

friggin' jerk

mucho mojo for Uncle Willy

Posted by: Mari at December 10, 2002 10:11 AM

Karma. Do no evil for it shall be returned unto you three-fold. Remember that the ill done to you shall return to ole Rick three fold. Not much comfort I am sure right now, but don't let this mar your string of sucess you have recently enjoyed.

JT

Posted by: JimmyT at December 10, 2002 10:12 AM

I have to wonder who your "friend" that called to inform you of this was...

Shit has happened before. Shit will happen again.

Right now, time is your friend.

For what it's worth, I'd leave your house, sit in the middle of that beautiful lawn, and think about what I'd write to my friends on the cast and crew... "Dear (Whoever), Just wanted to say 'Hi' now, because though I thought I was going to be able to see you at the premiere, I wasn't invited. So I'm saying 'Hi' to you now, anyway, because you really *do* mean a lot to me..." Then, I'd go inside and write the letters/make the calls/emails.

Burbank Mojo!

Posted by: Adam at December 10, 2002 10:15 AM

Sucky! Rick must REALLY be off your Holiday card list. :-)
::::hugs:::: Hope you're feeling better about it today! Lots of luv!

Posted by: LustBunny at December 10, 2002 10:15 AM

So much for all the "LOVE" and "ACCEPTANCE" Star Trek is supose to be about!Im not paying to see the new movie neither are my friends were all going to sneak in and see it for free!! Those bastards will not get one more cent of my hard earned money and when the DVD comes out Im going to make copies of it and give them away for free!"Chin Up!Shoulders Back"! Uncle Willie!Get on the horn with Berman and get a straight answer dont grope around in the dark with uncertainty.

Posted by: redrhinox at December 10, 2002 10:19 AM

Am I the only person who even considered this may have been a mistake?

Man.. If it was an accident, this thread sure and the heck isn't going to help his chances of Star Trek stuff in the future.

With all the hate for Berman, what reason would he ever have to want Wil involved with anything Trek again..?

Posted by: Rob at December 10, 2002 10:21 AM

Not to add insult to injury, but I just saw something at lunch that is kind of an extension of this post. In "Star Trek Communicator", some promo mag for Nemesis, there was the picture of all the TNG cast (including Wil) in the white shirts, and Troi (M. Sirtis) in the pink gown in the front pages of the mag. I believe this pic was linked on WWDN previously, Wil is all the way on the left. Anyway, in the center of this very same mag is this pull out centerfold thing, with the same picture except for one thing: Wil is Photoshopped away! He is mysteriously cut out of the picture, I guess Chief O'Brien was ordered by Berman to beam him the hell out of there. It just underscored the whole issue to me, and the shitty way Wil is being treated.

Man, this is some f***ed up shit. I just don't understand it. Maybe it was an honest mistake about the premiere, but if not, fuck 'em. Keep doing your thing Wil, and only good things will come.

Posted by: Pat at December 10, 2002 10:40 AM

Wil -

{hug}


You are too cool a guy. And too talented a guy.

I hope Zemeckis and Hanks see this, even if Berman does not.

Regardless, you have a few thousand friends here who do.

{another hug}

Posted by: Jonathan at December 10, 2002 10:53 AM

Way I see it buddy, you got two choices:

1. Crash that motherfucker and be the most sauve bastard in the room, have fun with your friends, tell Rick Berman he can kiss all of our asses. Shit man you lived the last of the glory days of Star Trek. You have a right to be there.

2. Screw it, chill with the fam, watch some TV, go look at your yard, have a beer, kiss your wife, hug your kids, hug the dog, repeat as needed.

Either way man, you rule, we love you. And Rick Berman...Thpppffftttt!

Posted by: Adam Crandall at December 10, 2002 10:54 AM


...although this is pointing out the obvious, it's something worth pointing out...

there are now almost 300 people posting here. 300! and bound to be a whole lot more!

reading through, there's a whole lot of 'first time posters.' people who have become so offended on your behalf that they want to take the time to voice their support for you. and countless more people sending mojo your way.

that's a pretty cool thing.

Posted by: katinlondon at December 10, 2002 10:54 AM

I read ALL the comments and there was one posted by a Rick Berman. I clicked on the link and it came up rberman@paramount.com. The post said he would send a driver. Is that a joke or what it real? Just wondering is all. I said in another post that they are jerks at Paramount. I will tell my dh about your treatment and I do not think he'll want to spend money on this film. Usually, when we go, it's six tickets which is a fair amount. Much mojo to you, dear! Karen

Posted by: Kazfeist at December 10, 2002 11:08 AM

Hey Wil,

First time poster! I have been reading your blog for quite some time now, and you are really a pretty cool dude. I liked your character in TNG, even though the writers seemed hell bent sometimes to make your character kind of, well, let's not get into that. But I always thought you did a great job with the material presented which is the mark of a good actor. I am not sure if you'll even get to this post but try and take heart in that you are living a good life with a nice family and while the premiere is one night, those kids will love you forever and your wife too. While STX might make money, money just cannot buy the great stuff you have right now.

Why not watch Stand By Me with the kids? Watch how it affects them (they are at the age to understand) and know that the work you have done beyond Berman and his horseshit is better then Berman could have ever imagined.

Cheer up kid and remember what goes around comes around.

Posted by: yatesy at December 10, 2002 11:19 AM

No man is truly poor, so long as he has friends.
- From some Holiday Movie.

Here's to Wil Wheaton, the richest man on the Internet. :)

Posted by: LittleGuy at December 10, 2002 11:21 AM

Wil, with this much support behind you, you can clearly see. We all think Rick bEErman is a fucked up ball of pubes.

Sigh...what happened to Star Trek.

Posted by: Steven at December 10, 2002 11:23 AM

Man, I miss Gene - he was cool.

Posted by: Johan at December 10, 2002 11:23 AM

I'm sorry. What a wuzz. I wish you could go anyway. Argh!

Posted by: jks at December 10, 2002 11:24 AM

Will, I hardly know what to say. You come forth with such honesty and enthusiasm and decency on all occasions that it's appalling that they could be so rude.

Posted by: Mattie at December 10, 2002 11:24 AM

Mr. Rogers:
Can you say two faced bitch?
Sure you can!
I like the way you say that!

Posted by: Mike Murray at December 10, 2002 11:29 AM

Ouch....

I hate Rick Berman.

I hatehim with the burning passion of a thousand suns.

How dare he screw you in the non-nice way.

To the bomb making mobile! Away!

Posted by: EnglishBen at December 10, 2002 11:46 AM

Well, looks like the only movie I will have seen in a theater in 2002 remains "Harry Potter".

That sucks and blows and totally bites. You do have every right to feel hurt, but I hope you do shake it off quick as so many before me have advised.

Posted by: ShannonS at December 10, 2002 11:54 AM

Ok wil, think this way, zemekis and hanks vs. berman. hmmmm. i would have to say zemekis and hanks know quality when they see it and SCREW berman. lots of hugs and love, brook

Posted by: Brook at December 10, 2002 11:59 AM

Oh Wil, this sucks. Remember, your posse loves you.

((Hugs))

Posted by: Anitza at December 10, 2002 12:01 PM

Grrr. It really just doesn't make sense. I mean the damn enterprise would be like blown up six million times if it weren't for good ole Wes (or would it be blown up Because of Wes? lol).

Eh, life blows sometimes.

Jason

Posted by: Jason (FutureWonder) at December 10, 2002 12:05 PM

I want Rick Berman dragged from Paramount Studios with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is! Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where's the Tylenol?

Wil Wheaton has a posse. And that posse is PISSED!

Feel better, Wil! We love you!

Posted by: marrasaff at December 10, 2002 12:05 PM

Never mind Wil. We love you. Tell him to sod off from us. Fuckwit.

For the record - as far as I'm concerned Wesley is just as integral to the TNG family as Geordi or Data or Deanna. Even today, whenever I turn on the TV and see a rerun, there you are. And for the TNG franchise not to recognize that today - well, look at the folks who have posted here alone! It's their loss.

Besides, you're still the youngest and best looking out of all of them. They're just jealous.

Posted by: Zchamu at December 10, 2002 12:08 PM

By this time, the premiere is past, but...

Wil walks into the theater in the middle of the premiere shouting, "Where's Ricky! C'mere you SOB!" After spotting Berman, Wheaton trots down the isle, hops into Berman's lap and tousles his hair.
"Thanks for the great invite, Big Guy! I'm not sure why you'd want them, but those two thirteen year old school-girls are out in your car, just like you asked! Boy! Everyone sure is dressed up purty. Don't really know why, when they're gonna need hip boots to watch this load of crap! Ha Ha! Look Ricky, my hair's blue!"
Wheaton lowers the top of his head into Berman's face, nearly blinding him.
"Wadda think of that? Welp, gotta go! Just wanted to thank you for cutting my scenes from this turkey. Whew! Dodged that bullet, eh? Oh, one last thing before I go, gotta secret for you."
Wheaton gestures Berman closer, "Closer, closer, Ready?"
Wheaton takes a breath, "FUCK YOU!"
Wheaton jumps up and shakes hands with audience members as he leaves, "Thank you, thank you. I'm here all week. Try the veal. Ladies and Gentlemen, I Am Wil Wheaton!" And with that, he is gone.

Stunned silence fills the theater. The movie, which has continued, even seems quiet. Slowly, an usher moves down the isle to a stunned and dis-shevled Rick Berman. "Mister Berman? The police are in the lobby and would like to talk to you about some, ah, individuals in your car..."

Just my thoughts. Devil's skid marks indeed.

Ben

Posted by: BenV at December 10, 2002 12:11 PM

Dude, I am so boycotting this effing movie now. Bastards!

Posted by: Geoff at December 10, 2002 12:19 PM

Reread the Gates McFadden transcript again on startrek.com, and Wil Wheaton is the subject of at least 3 interview questions!

WTF is wrong with Berman?

Posted by: Drakensykh at December 10, 2002 12:32 PM

Will,

Hay man, just say the word and all of your monkeys will stay home from this project...

You have more power then even you realize...

You have them by the Fucking Nutz and they don't even know it....

Think about it...
:)


Posted by: Eichybahn at December 10, 2002 12:35 PM

Well, when the DVD is released you could throw a party and invite every member of the Star Trek family /except/ you-know-who over for a screening. But that wouldn't accomplish much except for letting him know that he still can influence your life.

So my advice would be to close that chapter, as painful as doing so can be, and look forward to any future non-official occasions when you bump into your friends from the cast. Because those will be a hell of a lot more fun than any Star Trek reunions where you have to pretend you're still a part of the franchise's present.

Posted by: Mike at December 10, 2002 12:51 PM

Wil:

Screw Berman. He's jacked you before, and then sucked up to you, and then jacked you again. He's a Janus, a two-faced 'player'... and so I personally wouldn't waste any more emotion on him. You still keep in touch with the other cast members (don't fall out of touch with Stewart, he is awesome in so many ways) which means you should still have a great network of contacts for future films, etc.

As you've discovered, Star Trek isn't the only game in town, and doesn't even have a lock on 'future history'. So don't beat yourself up about the assholes in the business; instead cultivate good working relationships with the people who will play straight with you.

"Consider the rocks in the middle of the river. They all try to get in its way, slow it down, and divert its course. The river doesn't care about the rocks, it just keeps flowing around them, and eventually wears them all down to nothing."

Cheers, man. We all think you're great, blue hair and all.

- Deacon

Posted by: Deacon Blues at December 10, 2002 12:53 PM

Rick Berman hates Star Trek. He and Branah 'brownnose' Braga both hate it with a passion but it's made them millionares so they won't leave.

They want nothing more then to screw with the ST Universe and slap it with their own jisz and laugh at the fans.

They are liars and will continue to slap the fans and the faithful in the face till they are thrown out the door.

Be glad you aren't his pal, Wil, your kharma couldn't take the strain.

Posted by: KLB at December 10, 2002 12:53 PM

Eeek. I almost hate to say this. But I will.

There is a second premiere in NYC Wednesday night.

There is a chance this was an oversight. It may be worth trying to contact Berman and finding out. If you call him and he doesn't return your call - then you know. However, he may call back and set the record straight.

Like I said, I hate to say this because I know what kind of pandora's box could be opened here. I just know I would be so frustrated not knowing. And this isn't saying I think you *should* try to track it down; just that in the same situation I probably would because that's the way I am.

I will shut up now. No matter what Wil - we love you.

Posted by: zchamu at December 10, 2002 01:06 PM

I'm so sorry that happened to you. that's gotta hurt.

Posted by: Melissa at December 10, 2002 01:15 PM

dude. fuck them. its just cuz you're way cooler than they will ever be.

Posted by: sarah qadri at December 10, 2002 01:49 PM

That is so awful, Wil.
I hope you are feeling better. I wish you would have gone anyway. Rick Berman is NOT Star Trek. He is a care taker of it right now. He can't take you away from it, he doesn't have the power. He can do stupid hurtful things to you now. But he can never take away what it was like for you when you filmed the scenes for the movie or for the TV show. Or the fact that your friends and cast mates love you. YAY!
In a few Years Rick Berman will be gone, replaced by some other penny pinching ass who doesn't know how to treat people, but your fans, the Star Trek fans will always be there. For Star Trek, for all the shows movies actors, guest's and for you, Wil. Because no matter what happens, people will want to dream their way to the stars. And it's with you and the gang that we can get there.
*OtterHuggles*
Stargazer

Posted by: Stargazer at December 10, 2002 02:10 PM

i'm sorry to hear that your scenes got cut and you didn't get invited to the premiere. that sucks. if you had worked on the film, they should have invited you. they invited people who didn't even work on the film. that blows. even gates made a comment on how it sucked that your scenes were cut from the movie. she said she had fun seeing you again though.

Posted by: ken at December 10, 2002 02:16 PM

Ok, we are all sad and hurt along with you Will. Unlike many ST:TNG fans I started watching because of you! Yes I actually bought the teeny-bopper magazines with pictures of you, and was excited that you were starring in a show.

So I have one question to ask the rest of you who feel bad for Will...where do we write to Rick? Fans are the ones who pay to see his work, we should get a say. I have been a fan since episode one and I think my vote should count. I want Will in the next movie, I am upset that he was cut from the current movie and leaving him off of the "invite" list is childish and wrong!

Posted by: Colleen at December 10, 2002 02:18 PM

Wil:

I'm sorry to read about this whole mess. I hope you feel better with a little time. Try your best to not let it get to you. Find out what really happened and let us know, when you are ready.

I know this might be too much right now, but you could organize a monkey outing so that all monkeys in your area go with you to see it, and just be a fan like us, just once.

Hope you feel better. =)

anamarylee

Posted by: anamarylee at December 10, 2002 02:23 PM

That man must not have a heart! How mean and rude! Wil, I'm so sorry that you were treated in such a manner.

Hope you don't mind a sisterly hug from Minnesota because I'm sending one your way.

Posted by: Ness at December 10, 2002 02:30 PM

I just submitted questions at Startrek.com for all of the upcoming chats (Jonathan Frakes, Marina Sirtis, and Michael Dorn). I asked each one "Could you comment on Wil Wheaton being snubbed from the Nemesis premiere? Were you or the other cast members aware of it?"

The moderators will assuredly ignore my questions, and not pass them along to the stars. However, if they receive 50,000 similar questions from 50,000 monkeys, one of them might get asked.

Posted by: Scrumpy Jack at December 10, 2002 02:33 PM

is anyone else bothered Wil calls it a spacesuit

Posted by: Ed at December 10, 2002 02:44 PM

Grrr. Damn corporation, no feelings. So not in touch.
You better make the Extended DVD edition. Else I'm not watching this film, on principle.

Posted by: Cookiemo at December 10, 2002 02:44 PM

The fact is that you are technically not in the cast since your scenes were cut out... So, he has a leg to stand on. What I say is that you get him back in a couple-three years when accepting your oscar for best supporting actor at the Kodak and say: "I'd like to thank Rick Berman for making me able to cry so convincingly (and look stone cold into the camera without even a smirk)..."

Posted by: Chris Mahan at December 10, 2002 03:10 PM

I was thinking about seeing Nemisis in the theatre. Then I'd heard you were cut from it. I was thinking about renting it when it came out on DvD. Then I heard you were snubbed from the premier.

Looks like the previous ST movie will be the last one for me.

Much mojo, from the guy what posted comment #331+

Posted by: Roy at December 10, 2002 03:14 PM

I just mailed an icy-tongued letter to this address, if anyone cares to do the same:

Rick Berman
c/o Paramount Pictures
5555 Melrose Ave.
Hollywood, CA 90038-3197

Posted by: marrasaff at December 10, 2002 03:27 PM

{{{{{{{Wil}}}}}} I'm so sorry. There doesn't appear to be much honour left anywhere in the world these days :(

Posted by: Vicki at December 10, 2002 03:31 PM

Wil,
I'm so sorry, but you know as our president, i'm so idiot, you just have to forgive me or to forget me !! The only thing why i'm living on this planet is like our president the power, you know the fucking power with the fucking $ !! But again forgive me i'm so an idiot !! Forgive me for all the last years ignoring you but you know i'm so an idiot like our president !!!

Rick stupid Berman....like our president !!!

Posted by: Rick Berman at December 10, 2002 03:40 PM

Wil,

First of all, I think of a movie premier as an industry meeting and media event. It is not a premier to view the movie it's a corporate kissy-face party. The fact that you were excluded just says you are not an A-list power in Hollyweird, not that these people don't like and respect you. Hell, I bet Brittany Murphy and Eminem were invited and they are just there for "face" value. Everyone hates them in the sci-fi community. Marketing people make up the invite lists and are very clueless.

Second, Berman is a jackass. Most of the people in Hollywood aspire to wipe the ass of jackasses. If Berman excluded you it was because he saw better networking and business contacts that he could invite...period. Think of navigating though cut-throat business blitzkrieg meetings where the glad-handing Berman is there to strike deals and wiggle open wallets.

Third, There is more intrinsic value in one heavily discounted book in a bargain bin than in 20 movies. That's right. Books and writing bring more to the world (MUCH MORE) than being in or going to any movie. You need to start to hang out with the literati crowd who sneer and look down on movies. It is way more fun than actually watching them.

Why do I read your blog? It's simple. You are slowly moving away from an artificial society where the value system is screwy to the real world and it is facinating. How does one move from the hub of popular culture to relative obscurity? What happens when stars fade? If my star fades and I am out of the limelight am I still a success? Is being a writer less successful than being a television or movie star? Why?

The answer lies in your proven skills and gifts. Your ability to master writing, technology and/or machinery is valuable in the real society of humans on this planet. I make $105,000.000 a year as a tech geek managing tech geeks. The kids who win American Idol will make half that for 5 years and then never work in the business again. They'll be lucky to start pool cleaning businesses (which is actually a pretty good gig.)

Your goal is to find meaningful, good work in this world and let the recognition, accolades, and false appreciation fawn all over those who want to live in that creepy insincere/fake world of Hollyweird. Everyone at that premier will get their day when they are no longer "in".

Even Berman will eventually have to deal with a surly hospice worker who won't change his elderly man diapers on time. Jeez, haven't you ever watched True Hollywood Story?

The trick is to find opportunites and challenges before, during, and after your turn in the limelight. Remember that it is a TURN in the limelight and you have to find a way to be happy when the light moves on. Peace and joy in your life is the best revenge.

I am not a fan of yours because of NG but because of the intelligent, thoughtful and articulate man you are today.

Take Care!

Posted by: geek_grrl at December 10, 2002 03:44 PM

Hi Wil,
i just want to learn you some french words : "Va te faire voir Mr Rick Berman" ( soft version compare to what i have in mind). But think about you have that Mr Rick F. Berman don't have : more than 300 people with you and like me from Paris !! Be proud of what you are :a great writer, a great actor (Zemeckis man !!!!) and an international fellowship :The Felloship of the WIL !!!!
Bon courage !!
R1 from Paris

Posted by: R1 at December 10, 2002 03:53 PM

The right sentence is : "Vas te faire voir Mr Rick berman" sorry for the mistake(i will change my keyboard ;-)
R1

Posted by: R1 at December 10, 2002 03:58 PM

what else can i say but... that stinks

Posted by: erin at December 10, 2002 04:03 PM

Dude South Park was wrong, Berman's the biggest douche in the universe(Good epiode, check it out). If this is his work, he's lower then low... the stuff you scrap off your shoe. He's ruining star trek for the world, and now if thats not bad enough he's an asshole to Roddenberry. He's ruining his franchise. SOMEONE FROM PARAMOUNT SEE THIS AND GET RID OF HIM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY! If thats all you understand then thats fine... He also needs to get a reality check. Make ENTERPRISE actual Star Trek, Berman stop pretending your a writer. Take money away from your salary and hire real writers... PLEASE PLEASE DO SOMETHING RIGHT BERMAN.I've never met you but I dispise you...
Wil, you're more popular then Berman will ever be, he must have some 'manhood' size issues... I wish he had a blog... I got some 'nice' things to tell him, and I am not alone.

-tiz

Posted by: tiz at December 10, 2002 04:15 PM

On a lighter note, when will Berman figure out dissing Wil is PR suicide =). A lot of geeks look up to you Wil, and guess how many of em are Trek fans? heh. Good bye Berman, I will not miss you. Keep us updated Wil, Even when he sues your site for libel/slander.

-tiz

Posted by: tiz at December 10, 2002 04:19 PM

What to bounce back Wil!! Fuck those guys!! Especially Berman!!. I would hope the other cast members are gonna rake him for being an asshole........probably not.........Fuck'em anyways.

Posted by: shrednfred at December 10, 2002 04:46 PM

hahaha...
take a good look at www.aintitcool.com
Good ol Harry has taken a look at the movie, and MAN!, did he ever roast it....
it's a pretty mean review...he showed NO mercy

and while i'll go as far as saying that i disagree with his comments about the cast, i will totally agree with the fact that this movie is probably a stinker..

Posted by: Tyson at December 10, 2002 05:29 PM

berman really sounds like a punk. and i don't mean rocker.

Posted by: pavegirl at December 10, 2002 05:31 PM

What an ASS!!!!!! I can't believe that he would do that. I'm so sorry. You don't need this shit. I say, SCREW THEM! Seriously, you don't need them. Look at all the fans who agree that you can make it with out all that shit. Best wishes.

Posted by: Shawna at December 10, 2002 05:43 PM

I got something similar this thanksgiving. An old friend of mine recently popped up on the radar. She wanted to get in touch with everyone we used to know, the old gang from before we went off to seperate colleges and seperate lives so I hunted down their contact info for her and away she went to get in touch with everyone. Apparently she created an email group with all of us on it. Apparently the rest of the group decided to get together over Thanksgiving weekend to catch up. Apparently her plans suddenly changed and she'd already deleted the invite email so she just sent it to the group she had created. Including me, the one who hadn't been invited.

She felt terrible for having not realized that I wasn't invited, for inadverdently having been the one to tell me all about the party I wasn't invited to.

And I felt invisable, slighted, insulted, unloved, angry and hurt. Kind of, I imagine, like you feel. So I told myself that I already had other plans, that I wouldn't have been able to make it anyways and other crap that was neither true nor making me feel better.

I'm not going to imagine I know how you're feeling or that any platitudes telling you how much your adoring fans love you (and they seem to as at least once a month one of my friends tells me I -have- to read something you posted) will make you feel better. Because you know that you have new people in your life now and you know they think you're cool and interesting and funny and all those other traits you look for in a friend. But losing the old group always hurts, even when you lost them a long time ago. Any time it's driven home that you don't belong somewhere it's gonna kill your soul.

But from what little I know about you, you seem like a warm and wonderful person with a very resiliant soul. And if you can honestly look yourself in the mirror every morning and know that you're a better person now, happier and more fullfilled, then the rest doesn't matter. You might even feel better.

Posted by: noire at December 10, 2002 05:47 PM

The only thing sicker than you being left out is the assholes that come here and post a message pretending to be R. Berman. Grow Up People!

Posted by: Marie at December 10, 2002 06:11 PM

I've created a page/web clique/fanlisting/something or other for disgruntled Trekkies. It can be found at http://malakim.net/trek. Your treatment, Wil, was one of the reasons why it was created. I'm glad to hear that things did work out for you, in a way, and especially glad you'll get to see the movie out with real fans rather than industry slaves. Good for you! :)

Posted by: Ragabash at December 10, 2002 06:18 PM

For some reason the period got included into the URL of the previous post. Bleah. Anyway, properly it should be

http://malakim.net/trek

Posted by: Ragabash at December 10, 2002 06:20 PM

I didn't like Berman before I started reading your site and I sure as hell don't like him any better now. Bastard.

Keep in mind, though, this: From what you've said here, the cast still cares for you. They still enjoy your company. I know it doesn't help much, but I'm sure they'll be thinking of you.

Posted by: Erin at December 10, 2002 06:37 PM

well, add me to the list of people who think that this treatment you've received really sucks ass...i loved ya as Wesley, and this will definitely be one Star Trek movie i *don't* see...keep your chin up, big guy!
Lil

Posted by: Lilly at December 10, 2002 06:42 PM

Personally I would have lost it, mind you I've never dealt well with 2 faced people. you know you your friends are, and you should remember that when you deal with reptiles like him, he'll only ever have yes people and people he uses, not friends.

Posted by: James at December 10, 2002 06:55 PM

Hi Wil, I hope you see this in all these excellent comments. If you get a chance check out this thread:
http://208.57.228.3/ubb/Forum1/HTML/020459.html

This is from the Starfleet Command series gaming boards. I post there as DiggityDank. Check it out for more support.

Posted by: KBF_Dank at December 10, 2002 06:58 PM

It's been said before, but bears repeating.

Berman is a hack who merely sucked his way onto Paramount's teat... Star Trek.

It was never HIS concept and the stuff that was "his" sucked horribly.

Anyway Wil keep at it, enjoy the good and blow off the bad.... MOJO to you.

***THE BEEJ***

PS: Star Trek Trivia: Guess what they named the Accounting Department building on the Paramount lot? YES!!! That's right, it's the Gene R. Roddenberry Building. He made them enough money IMHO so he deserved the building I reckon!

Posted by: Beej Martin at December 10, 2002 07:07 PM

Damn, what's up Berman's ass? If Roddenberry were alive, he'd punch Rick in the throat.

Posted by: Kurt at December 10, 2002 07:20 PM

If I were closer to you, I'd punch you in the throat, farker.

Posted by: Monkeyman at December 10, 2002 07:25 PM


I'm sorry Wil...people suck. There's NO reason you shouldn't have been invited to the "real" premiere. I can't believe how crappy/hardcore Hollywood is.

Fortunately, you do have a loving family who along with all of us will continue to support you in everything you do. Go Wil go!


Posted by: RetroRandy at December 10, 2002 07:51 PM

Hi Wil,

This really sucks! Keep your chin up dude. Success is the best revenge. One
day they will beg you to do something with them
and you will be just, oh, too busy!
My brother is in the industry (struggling), and
so I know how these disappointments come with
the territory.

I am the one who emailed you about the QGM and
the epsom salt stuff for your back -- hope you are feeling better.

Posted by: jt at December 10, 2002 08:41 PM

Nothing I can say that hasn't already been said... I'd be F*CKING livid.

Ah well. Their loss.

Andrew

Posted by: Andrew Rollings at December 10, 2002 08:49 PM

Wil, I will so kick his ass for you!

Posted by: keri at December 10, 2002 08:51 PM

Wil Wheaton is a baby.

I like the man, but in all honesty, he just set himself up for disaster, and now he's upset about it. I'm sure there's some insider-saying that sounds better than this but, if you work in hollywood, your resume includes your former boss Satan.

Producers and the like are nice people, but when it comes down to it, all they want IS MONEY! THEY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT YOU!

Berman is probably a cajillionaire, and rightfully so really... The land of TV/Motion Pictures is so bereft of originality, it thrives on acting as a xerox copying machine, stealing old ideas and trying to make them float... In the world of Hollywood, the people who have kept Star Trek alive for so long, Berman, Bragga, Okuda, Sternbach, etc. are a success, not only because bright people like Wheaton led them there, but because they were cut throat enough to stab the other guy before they got stabbed.

Live and learn. Some ways, I'm glad Wil is being a girl and being "Sad," but the other way, I'm upset that he's not a man, and furious enough to make a change. I suppose he'll go on Wednesday, but that night he'll come home to cry in his pillow again.

Bleh.

Don't worry though, everybody still likes you.
-Matt

Posted by: A concerned minority... at December 10, 2002 09:19 PM

"Yah... Rick Fucking Berman. The man who keeps
gays out of Star Trek."

I had to post that again from the top of this
list, cuz that shit cracked me up!!

Feel better Wil! We'll see you in the next
movie -- Capt. Crusher VS The Universe

Posted by: FatMatDuhRat at December 10, 2002 09:41 PM

That's a bummer Wil . . . . Something similar has happened to me too. Rick "I'm-so-fucking-cool-because-I-fucked-Jeri-Ryan" Berman is a guy that you can't let get you down.

If I had the cash, I'd buy your outfit on eBay and send it to you. :)

Posted by: Ron Severdia at December 10, 2002 10:40 PM

Hey Wil, even my pacifist roommate says she'll kick his ass for you!

4 words: Robert Zemeckis, Tom Hanks.

Rick who?

Posted by: Keri at December 10, 2002 10:41 PM

So the man who ruined one of the most popular franchises ever didn't invite you. Meh. The new one is worst than Star Trek 5 anyway. And this time budget wasn't the problem or Shatner not having any direction.

Posted by: JeffTom at December 10, 2002 11:07 PM

Wil, I know you don't remember me, but I met you at DefCon1 in San Diego back in 1988. I was working security at the convention. You struck me as someone who really knew what he was about.

Berman, on the other hand, doesn't know what he's about other than living off someone else's legacy. He's a hack and that's all he'll ever be. Voyager and Enterprise have proven that much, although they work quite well as comedy. And I think he knows he's a hack but just isn't willing to admit it.

You keep going, whatever you do. If people in the league of Tom Hanks and Robert Zemeckis are looking for you, you don't need a second-rater like Rick Berman. Anything else you do the night of the premiere would be better than demeaning yourself by crashing it. He obviously wants you to wallow in self-pity. Don't give him that satisfaction. 370+ people appear to be right behind you on this one.

Posted by: SteveC at December 10, 2002 11:48 PM

OK, so I'm like post #372. I miss one day... But I just wanted to say how sorry I am about you not getting to go to the premiere. All these ups and downs, I don't know how you stand it. Oh, wait, I do. You have a loving wife, 2 great step-sons, a dog who cares, a wonderful family, steadfast friends who help you put in a new lawn, and a bunch of us monkeys who appreciate you.

I won't waste the energy in thinking negative thoughts. Instead, I'm sending you some good vibes. {{{~~~}}}

And I went back and re-read "Sodding the Sod" and "We Close Our Eyes". Those are the times that matter.

Posted by: loretta652 at December 10, 2002 11:57 PM

Wil,

I've been out for a couple of days and just heard. I am so very sorry!!! Please focus on positive things - family, your book, and the legions of fans that love you and look forward to your entries. Personally - they are a highlight in my day and I miss you when I don't get to read them. Piss on Rick Berman. Life has a way of paying bastards like him back for all of the shit they dump on other people. All we can do is pray that we are there to see it happen.
Why don't you start selling a Fuck Rick Berman shirt. Who knows - you may even be able to get a batch out for Christmas. :)

We love you Wil. Push through this and keep going.

Much Love,

Brock

Posted by: Brock at December 11, 2002 12:21 AM

you know what...

you should just make your own damn star trek movie.
sock puppets and everything.

show it at a theater. give the money to the will rogers institute or whatever charity.

invite the cast.
invite some fans.
hell.. invite whoever.
but leave out rick's.

whatta fake guy.

Posted by: Booz at December 11, 2002 02:19 AM

Sell a Prick Berman shirt. I'd buy it.

Posted by: Andrew at December 11, 2002 04:09 AM

Cherry and Cola Slurpee

Posted by: Ian at December 11, 2002 04:29 AM

Wil - You are way too genuine and cool for these bozos. I'm so sorry that they took advantage of your open and honest nature.

That being said....screw 'em!

Feel better, friend.

Julie

Posted by: JulesInArk at December 11, 2002 04:58 AM

HA HA!
- points and laughs -

Posted by: weenuh at December 11, 2002 06:09 AM

Wil,

Let me make a few points... I do understand why perhaps your character didn't get top billing at various anniversery parties etc. considering you weren't in half of the series and elected to leave on your own. Harsh words but true. That said it is HORRIBLE and INEXCUSIBLE for you not to get invited to the premiere of a movie you had a role in (despite it being cut) espically when you consider the fellowship you still have with your old castmates and the considerable love you get from the Star Trek fanbase. Trust me Rick is going to regret this one. Don't go to the Wednesday screening.

Posted by: David Corsi at December 11, 2002 07:56 AM

This is horrible. I feel bad for you. Here...I send you warm hugs.

Posted by: Susan at December 11, 2002 08:26 AM

Proof that Berman did it on purpose:

I just saw the trailer, and Picard stands up and says "Fire at Wil", oh..he meant something else?

Will, you deserve much better treatment.

Posted by: KPS at December 11, 2002 09:37 AM

that's really shady. it doesn't surprise me though. he's done it before, he did it again, and he'll do it again. i just wonder if he's running out of ideas and if it was his idea for the new bad guys to look like vampires. some people never change no matter what. it's pretty bad that tim allen, linda park, and jane leeves among others get invited, but you, a family member, didn't.

anyway, just forget it. it's over and not worth stressing over. at least you're a person who can tell who his real friends are. like it's been said before, just enjoy your family and know that there are more important things in life than a stupid movie.

Posted by: Sandy at December 11, 2002 09:44 AM

What asses they are. Utter contemptible morons without common decency or manners.

I think what they need more than anything is a good swift kick or dozen to the nuts.

And a grassroots boycott of the movie! I'm not going. Screw them if they can't play nice!

Posted by: Erik at December 11, 2002 09:50 AM

Wil...

Look on the brite side; from all indications, and from the earliest reviews, the movie BITES, big-time! So maybe you're lucky that you're out of it! Now just get some closure on that part of your life and move on. With friends like that,who the fuck needs enemies!

WE still love ya', man!
LeeB


Posted by: LeeB at December 11, 2002 10:09 AM

From trektoday regarding the premier:
"""
They were joined by new Trek recruit Linda Park (Hoshi Sato), 'Star Trek: First Contact' actor Neal McDonough (Lt. Hawk), Enterprise executive producer Brannon Braga, Frasier's Jane Leeves, 'Galaxy Quest' star Tim Allen, and astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Dr. Mae Jemison (Lt. Palmer in TNG's 'Second Chances').
"""

Shit man...

Posted by: klj at December 11, 2002 11:21 AM

First time posting, but I just wanted to say. That is so wrong on so many levels.

I was truly hoping to get to see your part in the movie and then to see that they did this to you as well. It bites!

I'm so sorry! I know that doesn't mean a whole hill of beans, but I just wanted to say it.

Good luck with future adventures!

*hugs*

Posted by: Angela C. at December 11, 2002 01:40 PM

Will, that really bites. Berman's a bastard. That any core member of the cast is excluded is completely reprehensible.

Just remember that your fans are behind you 100%, and every time Berman excludes you, he alienates thousands more ST fans too.

Posted by: Stephen at December 11, 2002 01:40 PM

I've bought ST:TNG seasons #1 and #3 recently.

On the last disc of Season 3, the actor who plays Geordi is complaining about the oppression of the black man.

I don't know if he's being serious or not, but it was definitely interesting to watch...

"They have Captain chasing some woman in every second episode, they've explored Troi's love life, and don't get me even started on Riker... they even explored Data's sexuality ! But not Geordi's ! Geordi is a sexless character !"

Posted by: Aleksey S. at December 11, 2002 02:44 PM

Wil. i know how you feel. i am often left out of manythings. even things that i have worked on. it sux. you have always been my fav charcter on stng. I was just saying to my sis. that if i become a director i want to cast you and all the other child actors out there that have been nder appriated and make the best movie ever. oscar worthy. you've always been the lead charcter. i started watching star trek when i was little and you were the only charter i could relate to. a young guy surrounded by adults trying to be noticed. I could relate to this because i've been doing theater since i was little and often i was the only kid in the cast. It's not worth getting upset about. people suck. I've alwayss felt the movies have been missing something.My sis and i feel it's been you. You kick ass. You better be on the dvd! Keep up the great work looking forward to the computer games.
-Billy

Posted by: William at December 11, 2002 03:19 PM

rick berman is the devil.

he should be dipped in honey and dropped in silo of insects. he is such a punk.

Posted by: Tetsujane at December 11, 2002 03:43 PM

Of course you weren't invited cuz YOU'RE NOT IN THE MOVIE!!! I guess they cut you out cuz you were so scary good huh? What a crybaby!!! "Boo-hoo I didn't get invited to the premiere." Yeah, tell that sob story to the poor guy outside the theater using a newspaper to keep warm! Thanks for the laughs, jackass!!!!

Posted by: DP at December 11, 2002 05:23 PM

Rick Berman = Borg Queen

"I am Berman. I will add your popularity to my own. You will adapt to service me. I will control your mental and physical being. I will use you for all that you are good for and then drop you like a bad habit as soon as I deem you useless to me. I will assimilate your ass into my collective. Resistance is futile."

Yea. Sounds about right...

You know what Wil, Berman didn't make you. You made you. It was your talent that got you into "Stand By Me" and ST and everything else you've done. Remember that. You are where you are today because of *YOU*, not some pathetic excuse of an executive producer. No, I don't know how things run in Hollywood. No, I am not an actor myself (although I play one on TV), but I do know enough about it to know that you can have all of the greatest minds in the world to write for a character, but without talented performers like you, Wil, to bring it to life, the character is nothing more than words on paper.

One last thing, to most of us, "Rick Berman" is nothing more than a name that shows up in some credits on the TV screen, but Wil Wheaton is a living, breathing human being with fears, dreams, aspirations, and feelings, just like the rest of us. Your willingness to share your personal life with us on this website makes you a better person than about 99.999998% of the rest of those assimilated drones in Hollywood...

Keep it up bro! You DA man!!

Frank
"When in darkness or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout!"

-Proud Member: Partnership for a Berman-Free Society-

Posted by: Frank at December 11, 2002 07:54 PM

Ok, since you feel really bad...I can stand the embarrasment.

When I was little I had the biggest crush on you! I used to watch TNG just for you. Admitting watching Star Trek wasn't a very *cool* thing to do so I kinda stopped watching. Fast forward some years...I hadn't seen TNG in forever. I was bored studying for finals and so I was tv surfing and ended up watching a TNG rerun on. It was so funny to think about me watching you back then because you look so young on the episodes to me now. So what does this have to do with you? It's part of my pre-teen crush phase and always will be. Even if some movie executive somewhere doesn't think you're an important part of the show you were to a lot of people. It's like when you think about watching a cartoon or something from when you were little. You're part of my childhood nostalgia.
On a side note, you're a great actor! I still liked your charachter portrayal that many years later.

If that doesn't make you feel better, than think about the irony that I'm taking a break studying for a final (again) to post this. I take a lot of study breaks with you!

Posted by: Grace Summers at December 11, 2002 08:38 PM

Well, I for one agree with the boycotters. This was going to be the first ever Star Trek movie I've seen on the big screen even though I've been a fan for years. I had such a wonderful sense of excitement and anticipation for this movie until Wil mentioned his scenes were cut.

See, I always loved Wesley. He was someone I really understood growing up. He was around adults who didn't understand him or couldn't appreciate how smart he was. Even in Star Trek terms he was a geek. At that point in my life, I needed to see that I wasn't the only person who felt that way (even if it was poorly written). I'll always have much love for Wil because through him I saw that being Science girl wasn't all that bad. It'd all work out in the end. Which, by the way, it did. : ) So thanks, Wil!

And if you boycotters really want to make a difference this weekend at the box office, GO SEE ANOTHER MOVIE. Make the choice to give your money to Harry Potter or J Lo instead of Parmont. Hit their pocketbooks a little harder by giving the rest of the field an advantage. Give Nemesis a crappy opening by giving your money to another film. If you really want to see it in theaters, wait 3 weeks. Why 3? We'll all be too busy being in awe of Peter Jackson and Two Towers to worry too much about a shottily written, Berman (ick) produced Trek movie.

Posted by: Allie at December 11, 2002 09:39 PM

Sucks dude. :(

He just keeps cutting you out, doesn't he? Does he have some personal vendetta, wtf? Did you try calling him?

Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2002 09:42 PM

I'm not boycotting anything Star Trek. I like the shows, the movies, the geekiness surrounding it. WW, get over yourself, I didn't get an invite either. Not that I would go, even if they begged me. These things are usually boring anyway.

Posted by: Queen Bitch of the Universe at December 11, 2002 11:51 PM

Holly mother of God- this entry has almost 400 posts! that is beyond belief!

Posted by: simran at December 12, 2002 01:24 AM

It is because you are hated and a complete knob!

Posted by: Ben Dover at December 12, 2002 02:08 AM

It is because you are hated and a complete knob!

Posted by: Ben Dover at December 12, 2002 02:08 AM

sorry...

Posted by: mcfoo at December 12, 2002 03:57 AM

Go to fucking hell Ben Dover!

Posted by: mcfoo at December 12, 2002 03:58 AM

Man, your career sucks ass dude. You must feel like shit all the time. If I had a career like yours I'd kill myself. To go from that to a washed up has been that gets reminded of how horribly bad your career has gone eveywhere...even Hooters. That must have hurt. You wanna know why your career blows so bad? Because you go to fucking conventions. You gotta stop that shit yo. Stop trying to act too. It only makes you sad when losers don't even want you at premiers. Look at your life dude. You're in love. Most people will never have what you have. Get a 9-5, stop acting because it just makes you feel like shit, and quit going to conventions man. You look like Mark Hamill when you do. Move on dude. Sorry if this seems harsh bud. Just being straight with you.

Peace.

Posted by: John Doe at December 12, 2002 05:48 AM

As an ex-StartTrek fan who has been out of the loop for a while and kinda stumbled upon this website per accident going "Whoa, Wesley Crusher? Meep!" ;) I have to say that I'm really quite pissed at Mr. Berman for doing this to you. I agree with what Frank said in his post (from December 11, 2002 07:54 PM). You're a great guy, and I think I'll just keep reading your blog, because you rock.

Posted by: Kristina at December 12, 2002 05:48 AM

Sorry, Wil. I was really looking forward to your scene (I'm still hoping to see it on the director's cut, at least). And it stinks that they keep treating you this way. But if it makes you feel any better, they didn't invite me, either!

Posted by: Peter at December 12, 2002 08:23 AM

Hey Wil... I'm one of the quiet ones that visits this site and says nothing. But to encourage you, I don't think anyone who is going to see Nemesis will *ever* believe Rick Berman to be in the right on this. There have been legions of fans protesting what he's done since the great GR died, and this is probably the worst thing I could think of him doing. You're worth more than this... keep that in mind, and remember that with this website, you have a more positive impact upon the lives of people around the world than Berman truly has... or ever truly will. Keep up the hard work on this site, and keep close with your family. Forget about corporate big-wigs who'll screw ya 'cause they feel like it.

Posted by: Karina at December 12, 2002 10:52 AM

I sympathize with the chagrin. That's a shame. It's not as if an invite would have cost anyone anything, and it's the least you deserve after being cut out of the film.

However, I'm really stunned that you use your blog this way. Weeping to your thousands of readers about the slights and tribulations of Hollywood politics. Sheez.

You seem like a good guy. Why don't you do something more worthwile with your time and your fame (read: your LIFE)? Here's a big hint why you should: it'll probably make you feel better.

Posted by: Andy at December 12, 2002 11:45 AM

Hey Wil I just have two things two say. First I'm sorry you were overlooked oh the humanity! Second that funny colored jersey and that grey uniform of yours from Star Trek really drove me nuts, nuts I tell you nuts, completely and utterly nuts, mad, insane, bonkers! My god how those jerseys and that grey uniform drove me nuts. I rejoyced when you finally got that damn uniform. I was so glad, happier than can be.

Take Care

P.S Those jerseys drove me nuts.

P.S again. You dare send really insulting e-mails or laugh at my pathetic website. You know what I'll just erase the URL.

Posted by: Kabelo Ntsele at December 12, 2002 12:28 PM

Sorry will in my drunken rage I srewed up your comments page. I appologise for not reading the BIG BLACK TEXT forgive me but remember that i hate those jerseys anyway.

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Posted by: Eichybahn at December 12, 2002 05:05 PM

I just wanted to say I'm sorry Wil. You didn't deserve such shoddy treatment. There are many more opportunities ahead!

Posted by: Kim at December 12, 2002 08:14 PM

Hey Wil, if it makes you feel any better, you are cordially invited to any type of finction I might decide to carry out in the future. Not that you would ever have the time or the ability to travel to Kentucky just to hang out with a 29 year old Geek that really wouldn't be able to think of the slightest thing to do that would interest you...other than maybe going up to Dayton Ohio to visit the Air Force Museum...which isn't so bad if you're into planes...

Bah! Sounds boring...but it's the thought that counts right? Hang in there man. You have good friends, good family, and a hell of a lot of people out here cheering for you! :)

Posted by: WebNuT! at December 12, 2002 08:37 PM

hey. why don't we all WHINE?

i'm gonna go watch episode one.

-stoney

Posted by: stoney at December 12, 2002 08:59 PM

Don't let things like this get you down!

Posted by: Slap at December 13, 2002 01:17 AM

Wil, I took a moment to drop you a line of reassurance on your situation, thinking that perhaps you weren't getting many notes on the subject.

SURPRISE !! HUNDREDS of folks are posting support ! You obviously have a great fan base (and it looks like a lot great friends). Still I find it rediculous and objectionable how you have been treated..I dont know the history (did you guys throw down or something ?), but noone deserves to be unceremoniously and obviously hurt personally this way. Richer or poor, this is Ricks problem to deal with, not yours ! Carry on.

Posted by: Scott at December 13, 2002 06:40 AM

I here the movie bites.
After all it is an odd numbered one.
ST 1 - sucked
ST 2 - Kahn -rocked
ST 3 - Teenage Spock sex - sucked
etc.

Considered yourself lucky.

Posted by: GodOrDog at December 13, 2002 07:17 AM

screw em all.. screw em right in the ear...

Posted by: dan at December 13, 2002 08:54 AM

Just wanted to throw my voice into the ring of people who feel awful and support you. Hopefully Berman has read Roger Ebert's hilarious review of the movie.

Posted by: Thenewbeat(x10000) at December 13, 2002 09:56 AM

Let me say first of all that I've come to appreciate what you did on TNG. I remember the first time those episodes came on that I was a fan of your character and even looked forward to the episodes you were a guest star after you left. Then I jumped on the bandwagon and for a few years you became "the bastard who got to kiss Ashley Judd". However, I've been watching the TNG DVDs, and I for the life of me can't understand why ANYONE had a problem with you.

I was looking forward to seeing you in Nemesis, and was disappointed that you had been cut. However, it seemed all still cool between you and Rick Berman. I really hope this latest ommission of his was simply a mistake, but either way, I know you can't help but feel bad. Hopefully he will give you a call, but at least you can be content with the knowledge you bailed from Star Trek before it started to go down the crapper.

Posted by: Britton Carter at December 13, 2002 10:19 AM

Being a celebrity in your teen years, you may have missed out on the "Jenny-Slater-is-having-a-party-and-everyone-in-the-class-except-me-was-invited" experience that many of us nerds went through, and while it sucks to be going through it as an adult, it may be of some consolation to reflect that crap like this builds empathy and compassion and makes us better people, and that you have fallen in with people who have been through this misery and can rally around when wanted.
Good luck to you.
-Andy B

Posted by: aiabx at December 13, 2002 10:40 AM

Wil
Getting snubbed sucks. But at least you did not have to prostitute yourself in support of this horrible movie.

You see, I viewed the movie last night - and it is an abomination, I would much rather see ST V or any episode of the ST cartoon than have to sit through that piece of crap again. Tellarites would not be able to digest this movie, no matter how many stomachs they used. It smells so bad, they are passing out gas masks in the delta quadrant. The Tholian have invented the new Tholian Diaper, just to stop the flow of this movie into their space.

Regards
taanru

Posted by: taanru at December 13, 2002 12:12 PM

It royally sucks to be lied to and underappreciated. But look at it this way: He (Berman) didn't steal money out of your pocket (that I know of). He didn't cause you to lose your home or your wheels. He didn't cause you to contemplate suicide seriously. (He didn't, right?) And he didn't defame your character in any manner that would carry serious weight -- i.e., a way that would prevent you from working in the future.

I say this because all the above either did, or very nearly did, happen to me at the hands of a former boss. I know that doesn't lessen the emotional hurt, but maybe it'll add some tiny bit of perspective.

Posted by: Rob P. at December 13, 2002 12:44 PM

I was going to go see the film opening weekend, but I think I'll wait a couple weeks instead, out of respect to you and response for what happened to you. I know that $20 out of my wife and I won't make a big dent on that precious "opening weekend" ticket sales number that they're all waiting for, but I can pretend.

I'm real sorry man.

On something more upbeat, they have these programs that let you record your own audio commentary for DVDs in your DVD ROM drive on your computer. I would laugh my ass off if you took the time to record an audio track for Nemesis when it comes out on DVD and made it available to us.

I'd pay for that download!!

Posted by: Jason at December 13, 2002 01:22 PM

*hugs the poor abused Wil*

Bastards. Total bastards. I would kick them for you if they were here. Hard. With my shit-kicking boots.

First they give you the shaft, then they kill Data? They will PAY!!!

*shakes her mighty fist*

Posted by: Ali at December 13, 2002 01:25 PM

Well... at least you didn't get lambasted by CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/13/sproject.ca02.wkd.review.startrek.ap/index.html

Posted by: Chazzie at December 13, 2002 02:28 PM

Well, I've decided that I'm not going to the movie until they have the decency to apologize to you, Wil. Not that my $20 will make a big dent (as my partner will stand with me :), but if enough monkeys don't shell out the cash....

Posted by: Jennifer at December 13, 2002 03:20 PM

It's not right!!!!!!! They should have invited you to the showing!

Posted by: Brandon at December 13, 2002 03:25 PM

You should have gone to the screening and bukakeed Rick Berman in the face.

Posted by: Floyd at December 13, 2002 04:41 PM

Wil I never got into your character on TNG, but I really looked forward to seeing you in the movie. I was surprised when you didn't speak a word in that two second clip on the screen. I stayed to see your name in the credits, but I did not see Whoopi's at all. The movie was better than the last one, but not by much. Also, I see Rick didn't have Majel in it, which makes no sense at all because of the wedding scene. I guess he doesn't care for the wife of Trek's creator. Hopefully we will see you in the special edition DVD that Paramount will hawk.

Posted by: Don McCuiston at December 13, 2002 05:04 PM

For what it's worth, I've heard nothing but bad things about this movie (opening tonight in Toronto). Maybe it worked out for the better that things turned out this way.
Berman's obviously ruining the franchise, and needs to get his head out of his ass.
Keep your chin up Wil...

Posted by: Nigel at December 13, 2002 05:49 PM

Hey,
back when I was a kid on the couch with my mom watching TNG I would always say to myself "wow, that Wesley Crusher is a cool, lucky guy." So man, screw them, the movie was really disappointing, and for Berman to say that the movie was good just shows that he has no taste anyway. Good luck, and continue to show up in stuff, it'll always be great to be able to say, "hey! that's Wil Wheaton from TNG and his sweet site!"

Posted by: Nick at December 13, 2002 06:05 PM

*tear*
Ok I just got back for watching "Star Trek: Nemesis" and I was SOOOO looking forward to seeing Wes all grown up and such. I waited and waited and :( no wes.... I was getting so excited that you were going to be in this movie that i even put it on my site! lol and then you werent even in it! HOW RUDE! I feel so bad that you just got cut like that! So as soo as i got home I started to find out why you got cut and i found your website. aww. I'm so sorry that you got left out and deserted like that. AND werent even invited to the opening show on Monday! I think something should be done about that. I am in total outrage! Well I think I've written enough about My opinon about u not being in the movie... Well I hope u star to feel better...

Lianne

P.s.>> I wanna see you with Blue Punk hair TOO!

Posted by: Lianne at December 13, 2002 07:50 PM

Why would you think you should be invited? People cringe everytime an episode comes on in rerun that involves you. At the opening today when they flashed a shot of you during the wedding, people booed, and this was in Canada. I heard from a friend who went to a showing in Cleveland that the screen was showered with popcorn and candy. An no that is not the same as showering you with acclaim. Quit, leave, stay out of the public eye forever and let us scour our memories clean from your stain, you talentless fuck.

Posted by: You poor whiny fuck at December 13, 2002 08:06 PM

Well Patrick Stewart lists your site in his Official site in the links section http://www.thepsn.org/psn/default.asp and Gates Mcfadden acknowledged you at the recent show you were at together. That's all that matters. Chin up and praise the Lord anyway.

Posted by: Marie at December 13, 2002 09:02 PM

I saw the film today Wil. I was so bummed to not even see a small cameo of you in the film. I hoped Rick B. would see the err of his judgment.

We're with you.

Posted by: S.A. at December 13, 2002 09:06 PM

Don't put off by what people say, like the asshole a few posts back (from 8:06PM). I'm sure you've grown some pretty thick skin by now, or you wouldn't have played your April Fool's joke last spring (which I thought was very clever, by the way).

I was very interested when I saw you in the wedding scene when the movie opened. I mean, shite, whatever happened to Wes? I thought I was finally going to find out. Nope. There's some closure that I'll never get, now. Thanks, Rick.

If it truly is going to be the last Trek with all of TNG pricipals involved, it would have been fair and just to have included your character, too. When there's a party with all of the pricipal cast together for what might be the last time, you should be on that guest list. You started with that cast, you should have been allowed to end with them. There's some closure you'll never get now. Thanks, Rick.

He's a little man, with no vision and an ego that his meager talent cannot live up to. He never was, nor will he ever be Gene Roddenberry. He's petty, and should be ashamed for his childish vendetta against you. Until somebody takes his empire away from him, very little will change. The franchise will continue to dwindle, and our children will not have Star Trek to love as we did when were kids.

Take Care, Wil, and good luck in your future endeavors. I'd love to know what finally happens to Wesley Crusher, but for your own sake, stop letting him steal from you.

Posted by: Shane of the Hill People at December 13, 2002 09:17 PM

So sorry to read about this but this guy is obviously enjoying fucking you over for whatever reason. I once got a job at a big TV company in the UK and one thing I realised really fast is that all those "names" can be arrogant, selfish back stabbing b*stards, and that really there's nothing at all special about them. Being on TV on movies etc doesn't change the person, but obviously you know this all too well already.

Once thing that *always* gets to people like Mr Rick is success; use it to inspire you on to bigger and better things. Put ST behind you, really go for the roles again and MAKE IT HAPPEN. Become a Hollywood bigshot or whatever, shit you can make anything happen you must know that, a movie is a product at the end of the day.

Read about Robbie Williams, I am sure his career over here was built on payback, you can see it in his eyes everytime he performs, people love him, but I *know* he loves it more than anything because he is showing those other people that sacked him that *he* was the talent.

Failing that you could just do your own thing and appreciate your life as it is now, you have more than many would ever wish for (me included). I wish you the best with your writing and your future endeavours, but try not to put yourself in a situation where someone who obviously doesnt care about you can hurt you.

Like someone else said, there really is a Karma and what goes around surely will come around. Trek, I feel, is running its course now and if Rick scores a few bummers you know what studios are like, it'll just be bye-bye.

Arrr, you know when u want to give someone a good shake!! YES IT FITS A PATTERN, the guy is a lamer. You have all of those words of support, people dig u man, the slashdot crew and everything- use it, build on it and remember if everything goes to shit u have great and solid foundations underneath all of that. And under all of *that* you are obviously a great guy and Mr Rick is a prick not to want u as a friend.

Goodnight! And best of luck for the future.

Posted by: Alan at December 13, 2002 09:20 PM

Hey that really sucks what they did to you.

and yeah i hope they put the sceen they cut of you in the dvd.

It allways botherd me that they never brought up what happined to Wes after he left with Travaler.

but if it was because of you wanting to follow your dreams and some jerks trying to show off, or whatever their motives were then so be it.

I think evryone should be able to follow their dreams.

I do hope they include the sceen when the movies on Dvd, and I hope that those idiots start treating you better.

Posted by: Tara at December 13, 2002 09:51 PM

Apparently Rick Berman's brain is in his dick.
In other news, Rick Berman has no dick.

Rick Owes you big time. If they ever even have another TNG movie/cross over, don't bother showing up. That was uncalled for, and especially rude - How hard is it to send out a fucking invitation? How many times must anyone with any trace of talent be overlooked?

Fuck him. Fuck him long and hard.

Posted by: Whimsy at December 13, 2002 09:56 PM

Not to throw a damper on this group hug, but a good buddy of mine made an indie that Wil STARRED in, and Wil declined to go to the premiere of that, saying he had an "acting class" to go to instead. Which sucks because he didn't even support a film that he starred in and which was really good. Now he's whining that he got shafted out of a premiere for a movie that he was cut out of anyway. I call it karma.

Posted by: Urkle at December 13, 2002 10:07 PM

First, I agree with Jason (December 13, 2002 01:22 PM) about the voice over for the DVD. That would be just too farking cool if you did that!

Second, The movie flat out sucked...plain and simple, it sucked. Jeez I thought ST3 was bad!
My advice to anyone that hasn't seen it yet, don't do it. Wait for it to hit the cheap $1.50 cinemas...

That flick is an insult to the talent of Stewart, Frakes, and Spiner! Hell it's an insult to all of their talent! Who wrote this story anyway, Berman?!

I will admit though, I don't want this to be the last Trek flick. Wil, I think YOU should write number eleven!!

Frank
-Proud Member: Partnership for a Berman-Free Society!-

Posted by: Frank at December 13, 2002 10:18 PM

Not to throw a damper on this group hug, but a good buddy of mine made an indie that Wil STARRED in, and Wil declined to go to the premiere of that, saying he had an "acting class" to go to instead. Which sucks because he didn't even support a film that he starred in and which was really good. Now he's whining that he got shafted out of a premiere for a movie that he was cut out of anyway. I call it karma.

Posted by: Urkle at December 13, 2002 10:18 PM

It's strange. I was just yesterday excluded from going to see Nemesis with a bunch of my Trekkie friends. Well, obviously what happened to you sucks a lot more. If you were still little ol' Wesley I'd hug you and comfort you, but I can't get over the fact that though you're my age in TNG, you're almost twice my age in real life...and married...and happy.

Damnit.

Well, can I still wear the posse thong?

Posted by: Jilly at December 13, 2002 10:19 PM

HA HA!

Posted by: Nilson at December 13, 2002 10:57 PM

Firstly, I'd like to say to all those with a penchant for the word "whine"-- kudos to Wil for putting it all out there rather than acting like a brain-dead actor with no soul (i.e. most of L.A., whether they're in the biz or not). There's enough inanity out there on the internet-- if Wil's intelligent reflections on his life, which he chooses to share with a bunch of strangers, upset you, perhaps http://www.benaffleck.com/ would be more to your liking?

It *is* his goddamned blog, after all. I imagine he can "whine" all he likes.

Secondly, Wil, I'd like for you to know that your little 10 second background cameo was the best thing about Nemesis, and I'm not just saying that as a fan. Berman has definitely hit an all-new low with this bit of stinkiness... for as long as it took them to put out another TNG film you think they could have been a little more careful with the editing and directing. Nemesis had none of the chemistry I felt between the actors throughout the series and other films, and I left feeling depressed and disappointed. The bright spot was seeing your name in the cast credits, right up there between Bad Guy #3 and The Voice of the Computer. And they can't take THAT away from you. ;)

Posted by: Amanda at December 13, 2002 11:11 PM

God, Wil, that really sucks.

I went to a showing tonight and you were onscreen at one point, and I whispered to everyone around me "Look! It's Wesley, down at the end! Wil's not cut out altogether!!" Before we went into our show, some people leaving from the previous one were talking about it as well.

I hope things look up. I mean, you're working on your book and all, and if Berman doesn't want to see how important all this was to you and how important you are to *your fans*, then screw him. Really. You have your memories and your friendships and that's what matters in the end, yes?

Posted by: Michele at December 14, 2002 12:32 AM

Wil, after seeing the film, I can honestly say that you're better off with the audience just glimpsing you once or twice in the wedding table scene. Nemesis was a dreadful send-off for a series that struggled hard to find its footing over the years. Many fairly-obvious continuity problems weren't addressed. (Such as "When the heck did Worf come back?," and "Why does Data state that he 'feels nothing,' when he's had a fully-working emotion chip for at least three movies now?," and so on, and so on....)

So you didn't get invited to the cast's soiree. It doesn't matter. Think of it this way: imagine that your life is a space shuttle (work with me on this metaphor). The Trek franchise was the booster-rocket that got your career off the ground. Now you're able to fly on your own. You don't need the extra weight. It'll hold you back.

I'm really curious to see this book you've written. Honestly, I think it'll be a better value than the $8.50 I just flushed to spend two hours in a dark box with a bad movie.

Posted by: Dave B at December 14, 2002 12:50 AM

I miss Gene.

Posted by: daniel at December 14, 2002 02:03 AM

me too

Posted by: Nic T at December 14, 2002 03:00 AM

You should always remember to watch out for your best interests. You should have some kind of informant for these kind of things. Keep you updated on events important to you. Then just show up at the event. What are they going to do not let you in? Bring a newspaper guy with you and see how they act. I bet you won't be forgot any more after that. Like Elvis said with that chain around his neck TCOB or is it TCB, well "taking care of business".

Posted by: Vile at December 14, 2002 08:05 AM

Don't let it get you down Wil. I saw the movie yesterday and it sucked ass. I was totally disappointed and I've had it with Berman and the sub-standard garbage he produces.

So no more Trek for me. I won't be buying the DVD and I won't be watching any more movies. Trek has finally hit an absolute deadend in terms of creativity. It's just pointless to bother with it anymore.

You would have livened up the movie and added a little youth to it. All of the cast members are getting seriously wrinkly and fat at this point. Why they locked you out of it is beyond me. They certainly aren't going to get more money from younger customers with the old farts.

Anyway, don't let them get you down. :-)

Posted by: Jim at December 14, 2002 09:00 AM

I also saw Star Trek Nemesis Friday and I was also shocked to see how bad it was. Obviously this is about money now and not any content. Star Trek needs to be put away for about 20 years so Berman can die and Enteprise can rot in hell.

TNG was great.. but they saw the fan base and instead of serving them as customers, they decided to see it as a cow and milk it for all it's worth. For sane fans (those who don't own an outfit or go to conventions) who are the real money givers of this francise, it is the story and seeing the old cast again that makes us come back.. but after you get bored and robbed of your money time and time again.. you drop off, and that's why Star Trek is over for me as a fan, a programmer, a dreamer, and an optimist. Star Trek is science fiction, and Rick doesn't give us either.

Capitalism brings out the worst in the elite, and the cheapest entertainment to the masses.

No more.

Posted by: Bruce Werner at December 14, 2002 09:12 AM

Wow, that is awful. I'm so sorry. If it makes you feel any better -- when I saw you on screen (and I wasn't expecting to, because I knew your scene had been cut) I shouted, "Wesley!" (involuntarily) and got the angry shush from the guy in front of me.

Posted by: Kenzie at December 14, 2002 09:13 AM

That sucks. I hope this was just another stupid oversight, rather than an intentional cold shoulder. I hope this doesn't spoil the movie for you.

Here's hoping we get to see your scenes on the DVD. And you never know, maybe you'll be back for the next movie :)

Posted by: Nick C at December 14, 2002 09:41 AM

Wil, I can't say enough how sorry I'm feeling for the mistreatment you have received. After everything that they have put you through at Paramount to now exclude you from the premiere... Well let's just say that it sickens me that they have done this to you. You have shown nothing but grace and poise regarding these last so many months when "Nemesis" was being filmed. You showed dignity and respect when you were learned that your scene was edited due to length (by the way, I'm at least glad that you appeared on the screen!!!).

I'm truly sorry this happened to you. You are a marvelous actor and are a good person. Please know that my heart is filled with warm wishes for you.

Posted by: Ben Ragunton at December 14, 2002 10:09 AM

Ouch.. sorry to hear that. I really hope things work out for you.

I saw Star Trek X on its public premiere yesterday. I saw you in the wedding scene, Wil.

Yeah, Star Trek should just die for 20 or so years. Come back when some better directors are out for it again.

Posted by: Asmodi at December 14, 2002 11:02 AM

HAHA! Thats pretty funny!

Posted by: VegasVargas at December 14, 2002 12:55 PM

Hi Wil. I saw the movie and I was relieved to see you in it. I started looking for at your website about a year ago when I heard you were going to be in it. Since I grew up as a kid watching Generations I was always a bit partial to your character.

Well, it sucks you didn't get invited.. But thats life.

In the new movie I personally thought the cast was great, the script was great, and the story was great... But it was blindingly obvious that the DIRECTOR had no Star Trek experience. I think that was the ruin of the movie. The story had some much needed "growth" to Star Trek.

So anyway.. I've been a fan since I was 10 years old and weather it is in the Star Trek world or elsewhere next time I see you in an acting roll or whatever I'll think "Way to go Wil!!! best of luck"

Posted by: Ara Tidwell at December 14, 2002 01:21 PM

Wil,
We went to the movie last night as were so excited to see you in it, even for that brief scene. Somehow, with your writing and the honesty you have placed on your site, it was like seeing a friend succeed, even for just a bit.

My husband and I are happy for you in both being in the film and being able to move on, away from Trek. We wish you the best of luck in all of your projects and hope that you always remember that you control your definition of success and prosperity.

Blessings and Happy Holidays.

Posted by: Katie at December 14, 2002 03:26 PM

Dude, you ought to work yer rolodex. I understand Frakes is gonna direct a live action version of the Thunderbirds. Go audition for him....

And Wil Wheaton as "Brains"

Posted by: BBock at December 14, 2002 04:29 PM

I'm just a regular 18 year old who has never had the opportunity to meet (or even see!) anyone as famous as Patrick Stewart, Jonathan Frakes, Brent Spiner - Wil Wheaton! If I were you, I wouldn't feel so bad - think of the opportunities you've had that people like me will never experience.

Posted by: Eric at December 14, 2002 04:31 PM

OMG I wasn't invited to the premier either BOOHOO! Fuck you, Wil Wheaton, you whiny pussy-boy.

Posted by: FuckfuckfuckMuthafuck at December 14, 2002 04:32 PM

ahahahahahahaha

Posted by: what at December 14, 2002 04:48 PM

I can't believe some people are mocking you over this *looks above his own comment*

It's betrayal, pure and simple. Betrayal always hurts. Humans are social creatures, and loyalty and trust are some things that we depend upon.

And Rick Berman seems to have neither.

*kicks Rick*

I'm sorry I didn't check your website to offer support earlier, I was busy with exams and didn't realize that something this deplorable had happened.

*gives you a hug*

Posted by: Gabriel Frosner at December 14, 2002 06:38 PM

Yo Wil not for nothing but the movie sucked hard and/or long! The franchise has sucked for many a year. Berman has fucked over the fans for far to long. It is a fucking shame that they cut your scene. From what I read in last week's TVGuide a whole load of good shit got cut out of the movie. It's a damn shame to see TNG not be able to put out even one good movie. Rick Berman has really run the Trek franchise right into the ground. I get sick to my stomach to see how low Star Trek has sunk in the years since TNG went off the air. By the way I felt bad how you had gotten a bad rap back in the day, but I remeber back when I used to work for CREATION and you did your first N.Y.C. con you had one of the longest fucking autograph lines I ever saw back in TNG's heyday. I wish you nothing but the best for you in both you personal and professional life.

Posted by: TSM-in-N.Y. at December 14, 2002 06:47 PM

I'm so sorry they treated you that way. The fun thing is that your name is still in the credits :)

Posted by: Jeanne at December 14, 2002 07:46 PM

Hey Wil,
I just wanted to say I'm sorry that you didn't get invited to the Premiere. I hope it was just an oversight. But don't worry about it, because you still got paid and you are still in the movie (it may not be the scene that you hoped, but you are still in there).

Posted by: Michael at December 15, 2002 12:23 AM

Well Wil, I think that you should be proud that you are in the movie and leave it at that. Evidently John Logan likes you and if they do another one with him, there is probably a likelyhood that you will be in there. Keep the hope alive and think about all the nice things that the cast members have said about you in the press. Kudos on the return, even if it was only for a nonspeaking part.

Posted by: Jeremy Bushek at December 15, 2002 12:40 AM

Hey, Wil, just to let you know, your gray TNG shirt went for $1,500 at the Sotheby's auction.

Posted by: loretta652 at December 15, 2002 01:37 AM

Wil,
??? Is Berman related to Gates ???
Peace Brother!

Posted by: TweakHound at December 15, 2002 06:30 AM

Wil --

Don't let this shit get to you. It's not worth the upset, seriously. From what I've read in the reviews, most people didn't care for Nemesis anyway. Be a man in your own right -- you were cool before Trek, and you're still cool.

'nuff said.

Posted by: Ben W. at December 15, 2002 06:40 AM

Well as we Native Californian's call it "That's Hollywood" Stuck-up no consideration for other's.
Will we met many years ago in Jerry's Famous Deli, Come check out my website, and Join my Counter-Strike clan!
Errr... maybe not I'm sure your very busy, but hey your Invite is always open email me!
Later Will, Cheer up ;)
Greg

Posted by: Greg at December 15, 2002 11:42 AM

Well, I was going to see the movie, but after hearing this, now I am not. I'll spend my money elsewhere.

See how easy that is?

Posted by: Sam at December 15, 2002 12:09 PM

The movie actually kinda blows, so no sweat, right?

Posted by: realist at December 15, 2002 12:14 PM

I saw that pic of Berman in that "Rick Fucking Berman" nametag to which somebody posted a link. Is it my imagination, or does Berman bear a more-than-passing similarity to Grand Nagus Zekk from "DS9"? };-)>

Posted by: Mr. Nobody at December 15, 2002 12:33 PM

Wil,
Take solstice in the fact that you were a part of the last great trek tv series under the guidance of Gene. Rick has fucked up the trek universe so much, it will forever be tarnished.

I implore everyone to do what ever it takes to get rid of RICK FUCKING BERMAN! He has runied the trek universe, and has no clue of what good science fiction is!

Posted by: DMZ at December 15, 2002 12:41 PM

errr.... that's http://www.killingspree-clan.com
come check it out wil, I would realy like to help with your site, @ no cost!

Posted by: Greg at December 15, 2002 12:45 PM

Wow, guess it goes to show you what assholes those studio execs really can be. No allegiance or compassion to anyone unless a dollar is attached to their name.

I wouldn't feel too bad Wil, I saw the film yesterday & it was ok...nothing special. Looked like they tried as hard as they could to cut out your part and that woman who plays your mother.

Looks like the J-Lo movie is going to perform better anyway (God help us all, that whore's head will grow to be bigger than her ass) so maybe it is wise to distance yourself as far from this turkey as possible.

Ever think of a career in politics?

Posted by: carrowsboy at December 15, 2002 12:53 PM

Hi, Wil

I'm sorry to hear about what seems to have happend to you lately. This is the first time I've ever come across your Blog, it was sent to me by a friend in regards to the movie.
I saw the movie on opeining night (having been a fan of Trek since practically conception I had to be there) and caught what appeared to be a cameo of your character. I never realized that you were to have played more scences in the film.
I'm curious how they explained your Chacters reapearance in the Film as last we saw Wesley he left star Fleet acadamy and was travelling around with the traveller somewhere in space and time. What was the plot line?
Could that be perhaps the reason further scenes wher removed.
Despite any reason ... I feel that it is wrong that you seem to be snubbed by the executives. You deserved to go to the premiere.

I don't know you or anything about your lofe or the experiences you have, anymore than you can know me, but TNG was a big part of my life (again fandom since age 6 here) you were apart of it, and deserve such recognition.

-to ending an era, and moving forward.

Posted by: Jasmine at December 15, 2002 04:00 PM

Wil Wheaton should at least comfort himself with the fact that Brent Spiner, Michael Dorn, Gates McFadden, Johnathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis will never even BE in a film as good as "Stand By Me" -- much less actually STAR. He was better than the majority of Trek jobbers before he even signed up.

And as for ex-trekkie actors cut and shunned by bitter producers he joins Diana Mulder and Terry Farrell -- and that is a better group to be lumped in in my opinion.

Posted by: Darnell at December 15, 2002 06:07 PM

Wil, I don't know if you'll even get to read down this far, but I just wanted to say that I think Rick Berman sucks. I saw the movie last night, and I liked it, but I was happiest in the beginning when I saw you at the wedding table. The theater was all a-whisper. It seemed everyone knew about you and what had happened! Anyway, at the end, I waited all the way through, and saw your name in the credits- yay!- and when Rick Berman's name appeared, I booed loudly. That one was for you, Wil! :) As for those jerks that are posting on your site- they obviously have as much brains as Rick Berman does. Pay no attention to those low-lifes. We monkeys (or in my case, Monkees- my fave!) love you. I think I speak for most of us when I say that we feel as if we're friends of a sort. We love and support you. I hope you read this... Much mojo coming your way!!
Love, Alicia
www.thewagband.com

Posted by: Alicia at December 16, 2002 05:27 AM

What a bunch of bastards. Who needs 'em. Rick Berman is no longer invited to my holiday party.

Posted by: Kevin at December 16, 2002 09:17 AM

Wil Wheaton,

I was somewhat pleased when it appeared that Paramount was beginning to treat you with the respect that you deserve.

I think I may not even go to Nemisis now. It will be the first Star Trek movie which I have not seen in the theatre within a few days of opening since ST:IV.

Your character, Wesley, was one of the influences that inspired me to pursue my scientific dreams. Yeah, I always rooted for Wesley. Once I found your blog, I found myself rooting for you personally.

Keep up the Blog, it's nice to see how you're doing.

Jim Deane

Posted by: Jim Deane at December 16, 2002 09:49 AM

I saw the movie this weekend, being a casual reader here, I wasn't sure if the scenes were cut. I must say that this seems like a bunch of awful decision making all around. The film really didn't play that well and could have used a little more going on in it.

At least there was a brief glimpse of Wesley looking mighty good at the wedding.

Posted by: Jeff at December 16, 2002 09:58 AM

Well, Berman can make it up to you by casting you in the (rumored) spinoff featuring Frakes and Sirtis. I can see it now:

*bright Q-like flash*
"Hey, you guys said I could crash if I ever on this side of the galaxy...so, here I am!"

Posted by: Hysan Gearring at December 16, 2002 10:10 AM

Out of curiosity, what was actually in those scenes anyway? Wil was sitting at the end of the table, which was a little weird because he was supposed to be off with the traveler wasn't he? So it was annoying in the extreme not to have that quick appearance explained.

But Wil saved Data didn't he? :-)

Posted by: sudog at December 16, 2002 12:24 PM

I always liked you on the show Wil. I can remember asking my dad about tonight episode and if you were going to be on it. I'm 21 now, so I was brought up on Star Trek much through out my younger years. I related to your character in so many ways. I was always the kid that brought in the weird shit he made at home. Hooking up wires and motors and building usesless eletronic circuts... etc...

Star Trek for me became my 2nd life. As obsessed as this may sound, I wanted to be apart of the Star Trek universe. I remember thinking about giving up anything to be apart of that reality. It was as real to me as anything else was in my life. Star Trek to me was much more then a TV show. It was a place where I could escape the daily blah we all have to live through. I know what it's like to be sad. Sometimes Star Trek was all I had to hang on to.

Star Trek still plays a huge role in my life. I still see all the movies, all the new shows and series. I haven't missed one. A part of me still hopes and strives for a future with something simular, something real, like Star Trek.

If it wasn't for visiting your site prior to seeing the new star trek movie, I would have never recognized you. I almost broke out crying at the end of the movie after data had died.

I am afraid that Star Trek will be one of those childhood memories or long forgotten TV series that is no longer being produced. I will cry when that day that comes.

Posted by: Chad at December 16, 2002 12:47 PM

Wil,

You are one of the most down-to-earth actors I've ever seen. If Berman doesn't like you then Its something wrong with him, and its his problem.

Paramount can thank Ricky for the fact that people like me now look at book contracts in a different light. I refuse to let anyone, especially paramount, have any rights to anything I write. I won't have this kind of crap going on with anything I write.

I think its time for someone to write a totally homosexual crew in a polygamous space ship, just to piss off the fundamentalists at Paramount.

I saw the movie not knowing that you'd made it in, and didn't see you in the final scene. I'm not going to pay to see it again or buy it, unless you're in it.

Trekkies should vote with their wallets, that's the only thing paramount understands. Don't buy the DVD unless Wil is in it. Cut scenes restored in the play version, not just thrown in at the back of the second disk.

Moi.

Posted by: Polynoia at December 16, 2002 01:12 PM

I chime in with the crowd: ST screwed up on your original role, and ST is in the act of screwing up by omitting you as *the* identification figure for the Star Trek generation: us guys who grew up on the old, and with the new. Obviously, it sucks to experience censorship by those-who-fell-the-decisions, and although I cannot claim with any certitude that they are in the minority, or that it would make any difference it they were - I, for one, am looking forward to enjoying Nemesis on deeveedee - if you are reinstated.

Posted by: labberdasher at December 16, 2002 01:28 PM

I now have no wish to go see the movie. I'm disgusted. Truly disgusted. It's just not fair.

Posted by: Jessica Wagman at December 16, 2002 01:30 PM

Well, the movie had the lowest opening of any Trek film. I didn't loathe it like everyone else, but then my expectations for trek have been way low since their handling of Deep Space Nine.

I'd guess that the TNG franchise is dead unless they truly want to bring them back that badly.

Posted by: Hysan at December 16, 2002 03:21 PM

Rick Berman is the fucking devil.

Posted by: jafd at December 16, 2002 03:37 PM

Wil, saw you at the beginning of the film, at the reception. Only a minute or so, but you were in there at least. (How did a message get to you while you were with the traveller? ;)

As for Berman, he is nothing more than a complete moron and an a--hole. The first time I saw him was watching the last dvd of Season 3 where he talks about how he wrote BoBW and his intent to make it almost impossible for anyone to follow up. Then, on the Season 4 dvd's he talks about how he broke the "rule" of the franchise, i.e. never continue a story in a sci-fi series. Well, I hope he's proud of himself because, not only did he do those things, he also *totally* f'ing destroyed Genes' creation, created a set of bastardised off-shoots and now there is nowhere for it to go....

We all know that in the following century, in the ST world, they have the time-fleet. We also know Janeway violated the Temporal Directive and brought back technology from the future. Now we see in Nemesis, the divergence of the paths of the bridge crew we all came to know/enjoy/love watching. While watching the movie it *felt* like it was the last one. I hadn't even seen the quote from the posters and had only seen one or two trailers.

In ST magazine there is an article by Logan which ends up with him saying he'd like to write the 11th movie. What's the point! There's nothing left, the Borg are nothing thanks to trans-phasic torpedos and then of course there is Data.....

In Measure of a Man there was a comment made by Data of Maddoxs' project where it was said, by Data, that "something unique, something wonderful would be lost." From the day Berman took over the dream of Genes' universe started to die.

Posted by: betsy at December 16, 2002 05:36 PM

Will,

I'm sorry to hear that (P)Rick Berman sunk to an all-time low by pulling an asshole stunt like that!

There's a special reservation in the 9th Circle of Hell waiting for Berman!

Hang in there and good luck on the new Robert Zemeckis film audition. Remember, no matter what certain dorks at Paramount do, they can't change the fact that you're a part of Star Trek history.

Take care -David

Posted by: David at December 16, 2002 05:48 PM

That is one of the saddest things I have read in a long time. Seriously, I feel for you -- that's just plain mean. Oh well, don't let the bastards grind you down.

Posted by: Curtis at December 16, 2002 08:57 PM

Rick Berman is vermin.

You're better than him. His loss, not yours!

Posted by: BigBill at December 16, 2002 09:50 PM

Wil...

I wasn't the biggest Wesley fan on the show, but I didn't hate the character either. Your contributions to the series cannot be ignored.

On the bright side... I've met Marina. I know I don't know her 0.0005% as well as you do, but you and I both know she doesn't have an evil bone in her body, and I'm sure that goes for Levar and a lot of the others too.

I have no doubt that's how the rest of the cast feel. Those were your friends. Producers are evil people. The world knows that. Look what they did with Enterprise. Blech.

You are so much more a celebrity than I will ever be. You so have it "made" so much more than I ever will have.

I don't know how to feel about that.

But I'll go with envious for now.

Really, really fucking envious.

;)

Posted by: netnomad at December 16, 2002 11:15 PM

hey man,

I feel your pain. I hope you're writing a book about Star Trek because all this makes for some juicy reading.
Your best revenge would be massive success. Good luck.

Posted by: Brian at December 17, 2002 12:14 AM

That makes me really sad, and angry. I know what it's like to be left out, and I don't know why they would do that to you. I hope you feel better.

Posted by: Lia at December 17, 2002 01:15 AM

IF it helps... I wrote Paramount Studios about the snub.

Posted by: adeversole at December 17, 2002 02:11 AM

Wil:

I went to see Nemesis in Honolulu on opening night. It was the early evening show, and I was sitting in a room full of Klingons and the inexplicable Jedi Knight. Anyway, the point is, everyone in the theater was a FAN...and as far as I can tell, people laughed, gasped and chuckled throughout the movie, but no one cheered...EXCEPT ONCE.

...the wedding scene. Someone spoke out loud in the theater "Hey - It's Wesley!" and all of Star Fleet started cheering.

And that was the only time I heard cheers from Nemesis. Decent movie, I guess. Picard looked sort of like Spider Jerusalem driving the dune buggy thing though.

Posted by: HyperRex at December 17, 2002 03:03 AM

Well You call the cast of TNG your friends.. im sorry but what type of friends dont check to make sure one of their own are going to be at an important event like a premire..
i think you got shit on bad.. but hey. remeber Wil What goes around comes around and Ricky's number is up!!!

*PS Call me if you need some help kicking his ass!

Posted by: Johnnyflash at December 17, 2002 06:47 AM

If they cut you from the movie there's no sense in inviting you to the actor's premiere, especially if the press will be there to take photos and shit. So don't let it bother you, for Christsakes, and move on with your life.

The cast members might not even be your friends. They're former co-workers, don't expect so much from them.

Posted by: lucidish at December 17, 2002 09:30 AM

One word: Rick is a b...., well you know what! I know that's, you know, more than one word but you get the picture right? One pissed off sister is the picture!

Posted by: Annie at December 17, 2002 11:32 AM

Heyas.

I went to see Nemesis and me and my roommate were all like, "Hey! It's Wil! Yay Wesley! w00t!" at the dinner scene.

It wasn't right of them to not invite you to the premiere. This Rick guy sounds like a class A numero uno jerk. I preferred the Gene years of Star Trek and TNG than anything else.

Good luck to you, and I'm behind you 500%!

Posted by: Karen at December 17, 2002 01:40 PM

I never understood why people hated your charactor. I never understood why they wrote you off with the wierd traveler thing. I cant for the life of me understand why they havnt brought you back. I'm not a Trek geek ...I have a mild interest in the shows and movies but not inviting you to be apart of something you gave your childhood to is just fucking wrong. Dont sweat this shit your a great actor and will get some big roles and then the weasly fuckers will be all too happy to have you back. When they do smile alot and take a greasy dump in the front seat of thier cars when no one is looking.

Posted by: Noel Fuller at December 17, 2002 01:46 PM

Don't worry dude, except for Patrick Stewart and Marina Sirtis, all the rest of the cast is really starting to exceed the ol' turbolift max cap, if you know what I mean. Entirely unrelated to the dissing, but might make you feel better.

Seriously, my girlfriend was one of the people who shouted out, "It's Wesley!" at the wedding scene, and then moped around for the rest of the movie 'cause you weren't in any of it. Take care

Posted by: David at December 17, 2002 07:02 PM

Loved your cameo in the movie. Was one of the only bright spots wil. In other news I am trying to get them to invite you to Starfest herein Denver. By the way Rick Berman is not the answer for Star Trek. It quickly losing its appeal to me and thats scary. This movie could have been so good and it was just cheese.

Ben

Posted by: Raethryn at December 17, 2002 08:19 PM


Godammit! I went to the freaking thing looking forward to seeing you and it was ONE shot of you sitting next to Gates at the head table.

Who else could have done this BUT Berman? Cripes, I wouldn't spit on him if he were dying of thirst.

Peace

Posted by: Mark at December 17, 2002 10:08 PM

I remember reading your reaction to getting cut but I must have denied it was true. I watched the film last night and was one of those "Yeah! Wes!" shouters in the wedding scene then one of those "Hey, where'd he go! Guys, do ya see him yet? When's he comin back?" anxious whisperers for the rest of the film. Stupid movie politics. You rock and we all know it. Cheers.

Posted by: rainelle at December 18, 2002 08:24 AM

I went and saw the new movie. I was very disapointed. The only reason I agreed to go see it is becuase one of my friends read the script and said you where in it. So the movie started I almost missed you camio in the beging. I kept hoping through the whole movie that you would show up and when your character didn't it left me very disapointed and upset. No Wesley. One of my friends suggested a glimer of hope that maybe they would add it or make it a part of the dvd. One can only hope.

Posted by: Jill at December 18, 2002 11:25 AM

Nemesis rules, with or without Wesley and Guinan (I'm surprised they even bothered to have her there, she had 1 line! WHOOPI GOLDBERG HAD 1 LINE! How much you think they blew on that?). Would have been nice to see you speak too. Oh well. Maybe the next one... *prays*.

Posted by: Cameron at December 18, 2002 01:02 PM

I see it this way. You ar least got a chance to appear in many episodes of what will (if it isn't already) become an imortilized part of American culture. You have contributed and got to be a part of something that is bigger than life. Most of us will never get the chance to have one-hundredth of the opportunities that you have. Be satisfied that you got as far as you did.

Tomorrow morning I will wake up and go 20 miles out to sea in single digit weather at 3AM. There will be no autographs, no action figures, no fan websites... I feel bad that you got hosed but at least you got a chance in the first place despite of the end results. Screw Berman.

Would you rather be stuffed into the movie much as Nichelle Nichols or Gates McFadden have been? Faces added not to advance the story but for the sake of pandering to a fan base and capitalizing on name recognition? Those two thankfully were thrown a bone when the directors chair was filled with a cast member but other than that they were assigned the roles of turning buttons or taking tricorder readings. They characters were wasted.

Be happy that what you have done had substance. You will be remembered for your contributions to the series not as someone who grasped on to his character to further his acting career.

Take pride in what you have been blessed with. I saw you on the Screen Savers and was happy to see your endeavors in other directions. Pursue them and enjoy them. You appear to be a very intelligent individual. Use it.

Best wishes.

Posted by: AGD} Ace at December 18, 2002 06:15 PM

A basic medical analogy applies: If it hurts, don't do it - just move along. The next time Paramount asks you to do anything, tell them to get stuffed.

Posted by: Michael W. Donovan at December 18, 2002 09:39 PM

500 and some comments, well, here's one more. I almost didn't click on the comment section since I am on a dial up, but I did anyway.

I've worked in tv for 19yrs, OK most of it was working as a tech at a PBS station, and that hardly counts, but it was steady work until kinda recently when I got laid off due to budget cuts. And I have been looking for work and being a bit picky about what work I want to take full time, and freelancing, etc. And I just now realized that all the agnst I am going through about job interviews and presenting myself to people who are hiring is such a totally miserable experience and ACTORS do it all the time! And they never stop doing it! WOW! How do you do it? It really is hard to keep things in perspective, that work is "what you do," not "who you are." But it is a big part of who we are, no matter how hard we try to rationalize it.

I've been catching up here on your website since I stumbled across it since your guest hosting appearance on TSS the other night. And all I have to say is, when your book comes out, I'll be buying it, whatever TV show you'll be a part of I want to watch it, whenever I see you will be in a new movie, I'm going to see it on the big screen, and I certainly hope you keep auditioning, and working, and audtioning and working ..... because there are a lot of folks out there like me who are just now realizing how much you have to offer and are really interested in seeing/hearing/reading more.

You have a lot of talent and I really enjoy your writing. Keep at it, Wil.... and good luck!

Posted by: EB at December 19, 2002 10:11 AM

Hi Wil,

First time posting, but I've been reading for a few months (Now that I know this site exists)

I just wanted to say that you (And ST:TNG) were a big part of my growing up and what I think the Dic...err Rick is doing to you and has done to your career is unfair and somewhat petty. I hope he gets Karma for Christmas (By Karma, I mean the movie Ishtar)

-Bill

Posted by: Bill Pomeroy at December 19, 2002 01:47 PM

Wil,
I bet you'll think I'm mad, but I actually like Wes Crusher. I think it's really evil of Rick Berman to write you off and cut you from 'Nemesis', then not even get you to the proper premiere. I hope your TNG castmates are gonna kick his butt if/when they find out what he did!
Wes was just as good as the other members of the bridge crew, and it really killed me to know he had to leave (haven't seen that episode, still on Season 3/4), especially as I like to imagine I'm there on Enterprise, being friends with all the characters.
Star Trek: TNG is (in my opinion) one of the best T.V. programs ever, and Wes is my favorite character. When I watch TNG, I cry if someone's dead or assumed dead, and I sometimes yell at the T.V. to tell the crew what I know but they don't (eg. "DATA'S ALIVE FOR GOODNESS SAKE!" during 'The Most Toys', which I watched last Tuesday).
Hope you have loads of better days - hold your head high and don't let it get you down too much. That Rick Berman's just stupid in that he can't see your true talent!
-Mandy

Posted by: Mandy at December 19, 2002 02:16 PM

Fuck.

That's about the only word that comes to mind... well the only word that dosen't involve killing someone. If we'll all lucky the SOB will die a very painfull death very soon. To do what he did... that's just a kick in somewhere lower than the chest.
Good Luck Wil, ignore that mother fucker, he isn't worth it.

Posted by: Becky at December 24, 2002 07:41 AM

DICK BERMAN

Posted by: eples at December 24, 2002 09:12 AM

Thank God they cut out your part. That would probably have been the one part of the movie that would have tipped the scales from being mostly entertaing (only 70%) to "please slit my wrists" (20%). I'm sorry, but the boy wonder gig of Wesley Crusher got real old real fast. Not only was it not realistic, but all the horrendous amounts of favortism being showed to Wesley Crusher degraded the professionalism of the other characters.

And how were they supposed to bring you back? "Oh, my traveller buddy kicked me to the curb, so here I am. Here, let me pull myself out of time and beat the bad guys in the first 10 minutes of the movie."?

Seriously, why would you want to go when they'd cut out your parts, anyways? Listen, they cut your parts because fans didn't like Wesley Crusher. It doesn't reflect of you as a person, and doesn't necessarliy reflect on your acting abilities. If acting means that much to you, make a name for yourself on your own, like Harrison Ford and David Hasselhoff did. If you can do it, great. If not, then you should appreciate the oppurtinity you had, however short, of being a part of the Star Trek legacy, something many Trek fans can only dream about and never hope to have in their entire lives.

Move on, Grasshopper.

Posted by: Mentat at December 26, 2002 12:59 PM

Wil wanted to hang with his friends at the premiere. He understood cutting out his part from the theatrical release but he was told he'd be invited. Berman going back on his word is so not classy. Simple thing. Last hurrah. Bleh. :(

In the beginning, your character was precocious and annoying, but you matured and became a flawed but generally admirable character. As an actor, you've always been a class act. Thanks and hope to see you propser again soon.

Posted by: LoC at December 28, 2002 08:36 PM

Wil,

I'm a very late comer to your site. Just bought the Nemesis DVD, and was looking for you in the rest of that film, and been trying to catch up with news here...

What's his name can go jump off a cliff... maybe one of your fans will help him...

Remember this... you got to kiss Ashley Judd...

holy cow it sucks to be left out... but you know what? you're young. ambitious. talented. hard working. Berman doesn't have any of those qualities...

Good luck to you and your family, Wil. You're gonna be just fine....

Posted by: Peter at October 31, 2003 12:44 PM

:(

Posted by: Chris at May 13, 2004 07:36 PM

Who wanted to be at the premiere of such a bad movie as Nemesis?

Posted by: Joy at June 9, 2004 10:01 PM

what's going on here, wil? you let this s*** just stop you in your tracks? maybe you're just too busy these days to blog...

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