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March 24, 2004

this ain't no holiday

I've been meaning to talk about this . . . but it's such an incredibly divisive issue, I've really kept my thoughts private.

I have seen this on TV just about every day for weeks, and it's really heated up since Sunday . . . and I can't just sit here silently any longer.

I have to live with myself, and living with the knowledge that I was silent about this is much worse than enduring some short-term controversy.

Shark is totally going to kick Croc's ass. I mean, it's not even going to be a contest. First off, Shark has to be strong enough to fight out of the water. Croc already spends lots of time out of the water. Then you'll notice that shark somehow has arms. And not just regular arms: big, beefy, Trogdor arms. Croc's just got normal old Croc arms.

I think the jet packs and wings cancel each other out, and maybe fighting in mid-air will favor Croc, since he's effectively got another attack with his tail . . . but shark has something like 16,000 teeth, and they're constantly growing back!

This is going to be a great battle, that much is for sure . . . but even though Croc is alleged to be "indestructible," Shark is going to take this one all the way.

You heard it here . . . probably fifth or sixth.

Posted by wil at March 24, 2004 05:13 PM
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Comments

I have to go with Croc on this one. He has a longer reach with that big snout of his, and as you mentioned he has an advantage with his Godzilla like tail, with danger ridges!

Croc and his tail whips Shark in the 7th and goes on to face Dolphin Boy in the next round...

~Brian

Posted by: ~Brian~ at March 24, 2004 05:18 PM

1st comment! ROCK!!! I totally agree with you... Shark is gonna kick Croc's ass.

Posted by: Autumn at March 24, 2004 05:19 PM

oh... well, second comment still rocks right?

Posted by: Autumn at March 24, 2004 05:21 PM

thank god... thought it was gonna be about "wrestling".

Shark wins. c'mon... it's sole purpose is to chomp. Crocs 'n' gators chomp, but end up as Gucci luggage, purses, shoes, and belts.

Posted by: edwood at March 24, 2004 05:37 PM

I just mentioned this today on my blog.

Shark is SO kicking ass.

And astronauts beat cavemen, any day, any time.

Posted by: Julia at March 24, 2004 05:45 PM

what the hell are you talking about.

Love the site by the way :)

Posted by: Andrew Pedersen at March 24, 2004 05:46 PM

I think flying shark will win.
(I watch Adult Swim, in case you thought I was nuts.)

Posted by: Brandi at March 24, 2004 05:48 PM

No way! The flying croc will pwn that shark. The sharks razor teeth won't even be able to penetrate the croc "tough as nails" hide. The croc will get a few bites of that shark and it will all be over.

Posted by: fl0w3r at March 24, 2004 05:50 PM

you said it Julia... Glad I'm not the only one... What the heck is this about??

Posted by: Tom at March 24, 2004 05:51 PM

Watch Adult Swim tonight at 11PM on Cartoon Network and you will see what we're talking about.

(they show it as bumpers before and after commercials)

Posted by: ~Brian~ at March 24, 2004 05:56 PM

I think...and please don't berate me if I am way off....but I think there was a TV show where they were building a model shark and model croc and they were going to have them fight to see who would win in a simulated real battle???? At least I saw a commercial for this show...and I think that may be what they are referring to.

Posted by: Dean at March 24, 2004 05:58 PM

I think...and please don't berate me if I am way off....but I think there was a TV show where they were building a model shark and model croc and they were going to have them fight to see who would win in a simulated real battle???? At least I saw a commercial for this show...and I think that may be what they are referring to.

Posted by: Dean at March 24, 2004 05:58 PM

"divisive issues..."
"on TV every day..."
"heated up since Sunday..."

I thought for sure you were going to talk about
the Gaza assassinations or the war in Iraq or
President Bush.

Who the hell are Shark and Croc?

BTW, will William "F" Shatner be in Pasadena this
weekend? Maybe you could give him an autographed copy of Dancing Barefoot. Rub it in!!!

Freeman :)

Posted by: Freeman in Louisiana at March 24, 2004 06:02 PM

I have absolutely no freaking idea what on earth you are talking about.

Posted by: wilful at March 24, 2004 06:03 PM

Shark > Croc.

Posted by: empty at March 24, 2004 06:04 PM

Sometimes, I am so glad I killed my TV......

Posted by: Jmac at March 24, 2004 06:06 PM

Man, if you had said croc I would have loved you forever.
*sigh* Now it can never be.

Posted by: Coyote at March 24, 2004 06:14 PM

Dude, the Croc would PWN the shark. The sharks skin is weak and easily penetrated. The Croc is nothing but armor. One chomp from the Croc would SHRED the shark. Not to mention the death roll it would go into (Thanks Steve Irwin!!).

Btw,For Julia.
The cavemen would brain the spaceman and have him for lunch.Game over. :)

Posted by: Kane at March 24, 2004 06:18 PM

Croc is so totally gonna kick Shark's ass. Keep in mind, Shark can't handle blunt force trauma due to lack of bones, thus that mega-Croc tail is gonna make Shark wish it was in an episode of Flipper. Secondly, Croc has that leathery tough hide which teeth can't get through!!

C'mon, all Shark has developed is the abiliy to hold his breath a really long time.

Sorry Wil. You be wrong this time.

Posted by: crowdpleazr at March 24, 2004 06:18 PM

pfft.
Shark's got nothin' on Croc.

Posted by: Lauren at March 24, 2004 06:20 PM

Is this a spoof on the Discovery Channel's show, Animal Face-Off? Because that's how it went down. On Sunday. When the show was on. The shark beat the croc after getting it's fin ripped off and taking some head damage. The shark kicks ass!

Posted by: starflow at March 24, 2004 06:21 PM

Kane-

Astronaut would get out of the way of the club! As long as he's not in his spacesuit. Those make you very clumsy, esp. on land.

Astronaut can use tactics and clubs of his own. Do you know how fit the astronauts are? Damn man, caveman can only grunt and club. Astronaut can plan, and better yet, talk.

If there's more than one astronaut, of course. It'd be stupid to talk to himself or a caveman.

[for those wondering, this has nothing to do with adult swim. It's Angel. :) ]

Posted by: Julia at March 24, 2004 06:25 PM

Starflow - That Discovery channel thing was a crock! The croc gets two major blows in, rips off a fin and the shark can still swim well enough to get the croc in the abdomen? Bah! The croc wuz robbed! Robbed I tells ya!

Sharks are just creepy.
The thing about a shark is he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. ...he doesn't even seem to be livin'...

Posted by: Coyote at March 24, 2004 06:42 PM

I agree. Shark for Prez in '04!

All insanity aside, Wil gets major points for the Trogdor reference.

(and caveman wins)

Posted by: Danielle at March 24, 2004 06:46 PM

Bloody hell woman! Are you crazy?!!! LOL

The astronaut can plan all day long but when it comes to a physical contest the cavemen will always come out on top. Bigger, stronger and far more primal.

It's like pitting a domestic cat against a jungle cat. Fluffy's toast.

Btw, the astronaut can talk to the caveman. I think things like "Ouch!!!" are pretty universal :)

Unfortunately the follow up statements like "Oh god, my spleen!!" and "Not in the crotch!!!" would be completely lost on our knuckle dragging ancestor.

P.S, you do realize that it was all about forshadowing for Illyria right? We know how that ended.

Posted by: Kane at March 24, 2004 06:46 PM

Dude! you had me thinking you were gonna talk about something solemn and serious. I turned down the music so I might be able to concentrate.

you sly devil, you.

Posted by: Smyra at March 24, 2004 06:49 PM

Well don’t be fooled by the arms and jetpack grafted onto the sharks back. Lets just go with the obvious fact that he is cheating with genetic manipulation here. Jetpack, arms, the ability to breath out of water for long periods of time. Now, true the croc has wings, but those are natural wings and could over time develop through evolution, and we don’t know when this battle where there can be no winner is taking place, but there is no genetic trait that causes you to grow a jetpack on your butt, unless you live in California and so desperately want to get out. So I’m basically saying that you can’t even call that abomination a shark, its about as much of a shark as Michael Jackson is a babysitter.

Posted by: kendrick F*ing jackson at March 24, 2004 06:54 PM

Wil, I suggest medication. You might want to let the spam through that offers some at low, discount prices. I can tell you they are perfectly fine medications. Just don't make the mistake I made-follow the Dr's orders. More is not better.
Oh, and Croc is so going to kick Sharks butt!

Posted by: Rook at March 24, 2004 07:17 PM

You know, you should consider submitting a few choice cards to Williams St.'s message boards over at [as].com. I'm sure they'd love to know someone of your stature is geeking out over one of their promo spots.

I'm going with Shark, too, though I can't really watch tonight. Gotta get up at 7 so I can show "Rugrats Go Wild" to a class of friggin' toddlers at 9. Thank the maker I get paid...

Why does the left side of my brain hurt?

Posted by: Eric at March 24, 2004 07:18 PM

My aunt was golfing once, and an alligator came up after her. She ran ina serpentine way and escaped quite easily.

If Croc is fooled just as easily, he'll be Cajun-style shark chum.

Posted by: James Lynch at March 24, 2004 07:22 PM

I think the croc will be jumping the shark by the end.

Heh.

Posted by: Leif at March 24, 2004 07:28 PM

I think the dude with the comment that they put up during one of the commercial breaks had the best argument: Wimpy humans, us--and yes, even the dude on TV with the accent and the baby--can and often do wrestle and defeat fully-grown crocidilian-types. Now, you ever see anyone do that with a shark? Yeah, case closed.

Though, I do have to admit that many people survive shark attacks, whereas if a croc bites you, it's supposedly almost impossible to get out of its grip. While their jaws are weak opening, they're unmatched when it comes to gripping; hence the wildly crooked teeth. Of course, people still do survive croc attacks, and I still say that Shark's title of "Never-been-wrestled-by-a-human" gives the clear advantage.

Posted by: Zak at March 24, 2004 07:35 PM

The shark has to win because the croc puppet looks like it was made by a second grader. The shark puppet is at least vaguely reminiscent of the animal it represents.

Posted by: KimJ at March 24, 2004 08:13 PM

Yeah, shark wins. He won on Discovery's Shark v Croc, too. The croc may have a tough hide, but he does have tiny little arms and a soft belly, which the shark can totall tear into. Also, crocs are imobile when flipped over. Shark will p0wz.

Posted by: Jess at March 24, 2004 08:14 PM

Oh as IF. What is Shark without his jet pack? Croc has the amphibian advantage - teeth to rival Shark's and speed on land and in water.

Posted by: MD at March 24, 2004 08:20 PM

I think the astronauts beat the cavemen hands down.

Oops, wrong simulated epic battle.

Posted by: Xopher at March 24, 2004 08:22 PM

I had no idea what you were talking about but gathered you must be geeking over ADULT SWIM and so turned to the channel and what do I see but a flying shark and equally disturbing flying crocodile. I try to stay out of this sort of heated debate but in this case I think it is absolutely obvious that Shark has it...cause anyone who can get their tale handed to them by Steve Irwin or worse yet Paul Hogan doesn't deserve to battle at all.

Oh,and Caveman. Seriously.

Posted by: Sean at March 24, 2004 08:22 PM

And totally off the subject...

http://www.dangermouse.net/cgi-bin/comic.pl?comic=242

...who knew Oncle Weelie and the Harry Potter stories had something in common?

Posted by: Mags at March 24, 2004 08:27 PM

Croc all the way. A flying shark is by definition out of water. A shark out of water is, well, dead very soon. :)

Posted by: meredith at March 24, 2004 08:46 PM

In the battle against caveman and astronaut, I say cavewoman. Why? Because she'll nag them both to death.

(Stop fighting... Don't make a mess... I've been cleaning for hours and you mess this cave up in 3 seconds... No, I will NOT make snacks for your friend... We're supposed to go visit my mother and you're goofing off... blah, blah, blah...)

And this comment is brought to you by a woman...

:)-

Posted by: Brandi at March 24, 2004 08:46 PM

Yeah, yeah...shark wins..blah, blah. The real question is: who's gonna win next? Lion vs. Tiger? My money (and when I say 'money,' I mean 'cheerios')is on the tiger.

Posted by: Abby at March 24, 2004 08:47 PM

Wow, some people really have to stop swiping their kids' Ritalin. Honestly, I love you lots. But...wow.

Hugs and kisses,

Gwalchmai The Absent (who has no *earthly* idea what any of this is about, other than he's more afraid of sharks than crocodiles, though he'd rather not be eaten by either species)

Posted by: Gwalchmai at March 24, 2004 08:48 PM

Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark must win or else there's something seriouly wrong with our society.

Posted by: cloudjumpingmonk at March 24, 2004 09:00 PM

That makes 3 for cave. . .uh, people. and 2 for astronauts.

Brandi's my hero for "keeping it real".

Posted by: Kane at March 24, 2004 09:01 PM

You are sooo wrong on this will. Crock will win. Croc has legs with claws in addition to a killer jaw!

Posted by: Roxy at March 24, 2004 09:08 PM

Shark all the way baby! Have you ever heard scary music when a crock is around?? There's a reason for that. Regular people can wrestle crocks but no one even thinks about wrestling sharks.

Posted by: gaby at March 24, 2004 09:10 PM

from my blog 04.03.04: a quote from hugo weaving, talking about who would win in a fight between elrond and agent smith:


"Elrond slashes his sword up and down if you squeeze his little legs together. Agent Smith, on the other hand, simply wields a pistol at the end of an outstretched arm.


"Elrond's got the movable pieces. And he's also bigger," Weaving says, after due consideration. "Smith, on the other hand, has got a gun. But then, Elrond's immortal..."

my completely partisan picks: elrond over agent smith, and astronauts over cavemen.
don't know about sharks or crocs.

Posted by: urbazewski at March 24, 2004 09:12 PM

Croc! Croc! Croc!

Shark's goin' DOWN, Wil!

(Hahaha)

Posted by: AniMimi at March 24, 2004 09:24 PM

Shark is going to win for sure, as Wil said it's all in the Trogdor arm... remember a vote against shark is a vote against trogdor.

As for the other debate, Cavemen would win, we all know that.

Posted by: Pierce at March 24, 2004 09:35 PM

Now, I didn't watch this show that you guys are talking about, but I am catching some caveman vs. astronaut comments. Now, I've been debating that one since Spike & Angel were arguing over it on the show Angel a few weeks back. Totally the astronaut. No question. So, going by the last comment I saw about this the score is now 3 to 3.

Posted by: Amber at March 24, 2004 09:42 PM

OK, make that 4 to 3 in the caveman's favor. I must have missed the comment before mine. But that is WRONG! Astronaut's are much more intelligent. They can think of strategies & all that good stuff. Come on!

Posted by: Amber at March 24, 2004 09:44 PM

Regarding the astronauts vs cavemen - you have to ask, do the astronauts have weapons? I mean, do they show up with their laser pistols, or do they have to build them a la Kirk in, um, that episode whose name I can't remember right now?

'Cuz the cavemen have fire.

Posted by: Gandalfe at March 24, 2004 09:46 PM

\m/ Dude, I'm a hero! \m/

(Probably only to the guys... I think the gals are still mad at me for saying we nag... hey, it's the truth. Why lie?)

Just 'keeping it real'. :)

Posted by: Brandi at March 24, 2004 09:51 PM

Heh. You're too funny. I finally caught Teen Titans last night (BTW, the show rocks!), and stayed up to watch a few of the animes that come on later. I dreamt last night about the whole Shark vs. Crock thing.

Though, I have to disagree. Only because of the whole air breathing issue the Shark will have. *gr*

Posted by: Rhonda at March 24, 2004 10:01 PM

The battle rages!!!

Keep in mind folks. Cavemen had to survive wild animals and nature in order to survive.

We need Wil to weigh in. Although i think he's a bit biased. You know, having been an "astronaut(. . .on some kind of star trek)" himself once. :)

P.S.
Just be glad "keeping it real" didn't go wrong Brandi. ;)

Posted by: Kane at March 24, 2004 10:10 PM

see, i just have to look at it this way. the shark will beat the croc by mobility alone. they train astronauts doing space walks by swimming, so obviously swimming and flying are very close to each other. take the shark out of water and give him a jet pack, and he might as well still be in water.

ps - tiger and astronaut for the other two arguments. although, did they ever say how the *#$(&# astronauts and cavemen ended up fighting??

Posted by: Emily at March 24, 2004 10:12 PM

lol... hey... did you east coasters spill the beans for us on the West? I voted Shark way back up near the top of the posts this afternoon... guess I don't have to tune in at 11pm, now.

and how did I miss the spaceman v. caveman on Angel... oh, yeah... watching how the O.C. tries to emulate my county. heh... they film it in L.A. anyway.

Posted by: edwoodca at March 24, 2004 10:14 PM

No way, man. Croc is totally gonna kick Shark's ass. :p

Posted by: Tasha at March 24, 2004 10:15 PM

I've been an anonymous reader up 'til now, but I have to weigh in on this issue.

Astronauts will totally whip the crap out of cavemen. Spacemen are smarter and tougher, for sure. Cavemen spend most of their days laying about, waiting for food to show up. Sure, they're strong, but where's the endurance? Not to mention the astronauts' military training, including personal combat, tactics, and survival. Hands down, Spacemen all the way!

Oh, and by the way, the shark wins only if he strikes first, otherwise, croc tears him to pieces.

Posted by: Axl at March 24, 2004 10:24 PM

Aaarrgggh! Me no have cable. Me no can watch Adult Swim. Me so sad. Me needs sleeps. Me needs to say good night. Good night....

Posted by: Zanazaz at March 24, 2004 10:28 PM

Shark's got my vote. There's no contest.

Posted by: Drew at March 24, 2004 10:45 PM

Wil,

WIL!!! What in sam hell are you talking about?

lol

Jason

Posted by: JASON FUTUREWONDER at March 24, 2004 10:50 PM

Being from way up here in Canada... I have no clue what you're talking about. So I'll have to take your work for it - Go Shark!

Posted by: Shawn at March 24, 2004 10:52 PM

Umm that should read "word" for it... Crud.

Posted by: Shawn at March 24, 2004 10:54 PM

Ahh, but remember Axel. The cavemans entire life has been about survival. He has to hunt for his food and kill it with either hand made weapons or his bare hands. The astronaut just squeezes it from a tube.

Food for thought.

Posted by: Kane at March 24, 2004 10:55 PM

Shark, all the way. For one, he's got the jetpack, meaning he's got a faster top speed. Croc may have manuverability, but I've yet to see any bird outrun a jet. Another thing- Croc looks like he's been keeping in shape and all- but Shark looks like he's been pumping up for this fight for some time. And finally, let us not forget: If Jaws had been able to fly, Roy Schieder wouldn't have lived to become captain of the seaQuest.

Posted by: Gavin at March 24, 2004 11:01 PM

Dudes, sorry, but I totally agree with Wil on this one.

Posted by: Jessi at March 24, 2004 11:03 PM

Richard Hatch wrestled a shark, so the wrestling croc theory is a load of crap...they wrestle little crocs, not the 15 footers.

Caveman will crush the astronaut. Astronauts are all pansy scientists now and there's not a lot of need for hand to hand combat in space. If it were a cosmonaut then I would change my vote.

Posted by: Yuri at March 24, 2004 11:15 PM

I tend to think that men become a tad over excited with these questions, when really one should be focusing on the important debates: in a match between a kangaroo and an emu who would claim victory?

Posted by: wildoates at March 24, 2004 11:34 PM

The shark is totally going to kick the croc's scaly ass. Crocs are tough, and all, but sharks are living engines of destruction.

Posted by: Prodigal at March 24, 2004 11:57 PM

Since I have no idea what you are talking about, I'll just nod and agree with the majority.

Posted by: Matt at March 25, 2004 12:00 AM

Kane: True, true... :)

Here's a fight for ya - you think Mighty Mouse could beat up Superman? (Nudge, nudge, wink, wink...)

;)-

Posted by: Brandi at March 25, 2004 12:01 AM

Mighty Mouse and Superman?!!! That's preposterous!!! How dare you bring such trivial nonsense into an intelligent debate!!!

The nerve.


Superman pwns. Boo Yah!

:)

Posted by: Kane at March 25, 2004 12:13 AM

You make rather valid points that I myself hadn't even considered. Except for that arm thing; I was totally thinking Trogdor as soon as I saw them. Right on Wil, right on.

Posted by: Alara at March 25, 2004 12:14 AM

*sniff*, *sniff*.

This is me sitting over by the atari while all the cool kids talk about a trend I don't understand.

That's OK. Who needs it anyway?

Posted by: Christine at March 25, 2004 12:42 AM

(Actually, that Mighty Mouse - Superman thing was a Stand By Me reference...) You call this whole conversation an intelligent debate? What a [flying] croc of... blah, blah (nag, nag).

Flying croc... I made a joke! :)-

Posted by: Brandi at March 25, 2004 12:57 AM

Heh, I know. I got the SBM joke. I had to throw some silliness in :p

No!! Not the nagging!! Anything but the nagging!

:)

Posted by: Kane at March 25, 2004 01:07 AM

Hey, look, all I'm saying is that Muhammed Ali in his prime is way better than anti-lock brakes!

Posted by: Axl at March 25, 2004 01:10 AM

I have but eight words:

wing fragile. bite wing. croc fall down.

Posted by: Evilbeard at March 25, 2004 01:30 AM

Definately shark: presumably the entire battle would take place in midair, and the flying shark, in an odd way, has homefield advantage--he spends his entire life underwater, which is just as fluid as air. The damned croc is essentially just a big lumbering lizard. Shark's brain is also superior; he'd probably go straight for the croc's genetically engineered wings. What's the croc gonna do, try to attact a fucking jet pack? He'd get scorched by the ultrahot flame! No, shark all the way.

And spaceman.

Posted by: jon at March 25, 2004 02:03 AM

Evilbeard... what's the 8th word?! Don't leave us hangin'!!!! Nooooooooooooo...

Posted by: edwood at March 25, 2004 02:55 AM

...

You know what that is? Croc followed by shark poop!

:-)

Posted by: ostheimerd at March 25, 2004 04:21 AM

...

You know what that is? Croc followed by shark poop!

:-)

Posted by: ostheimerd at March 25, 2004 04:21 AM

You got me Wil. I totally thought that this would be about Richard Clark...blushes.

Brainwashed eh?

What is this Shark and Croc of whom you all speak?

Posted by: blucat/redblanket at March 25, 2004 05:42 AM

Axl, I'd want you to marry me if I wasn't already married.

Kane - yes, I know it was foreshadowing for Illyria...but don't you think that means, in the end, astronauts will win, because the smarter people will somehow get Fred back? She can't be gone-gone, right?

I mean, really...only the BAD GUYS were the ones who said she was irretrievably gone. Why would you believe THEM?

Posted by: Julia at March 25, 2004 05:47 AM

umm.... WTF???

-Scott
TwoPeanuts.com

Posted by: Scott McDonald at March 25, 2004 06:29 AM

Croc drags Sharks no leg havin arse up onto land and has his whipping way with Shark...
I am going with Croc!
Look at that skin baby, how can you go wrong with skin like that? ;)

Posted by: NephraTari at March 25, 2004 06:34 AM

I have no idea what you are talkin about. Not sure I wanna know either. LOL Speaking of Teen Titans, I told my best friend (the one who couldn't stop laughing at the WFS story in Vega$pants)you were the voice of Aqualad, now he thinks you're totally cool.

Posted by: Lawless1 at March 25, 2004 06:38 AM

I quite certain something got in the water and everyone here has gone insane. You are not even speaking words, just making strange sounds and noises. The only thing I understood was something about Richard Hatch wrestling a shark.

Or maybe it's me.

And Richard Hatch wreslted *an extremely small* shark btw.

Posted by: anc at March 25, 2004 06:56 AM

One word. Two syllables.

Deathroll.

Croc's got it. Shark don't.

Croc's gonna whip some shark tail!

Posted by: Groonk at March 25, 2004 07:17 AM

Shark! Yar!

Angel said no weapons. Caveman pounds Astronaut into pulpy, space-suited goo.

Posted by: Sami at March 25, 2004 07:20 AM

Croc has LEGS!!! He could totally stand on Sharks head.
Or even kick shark in the tail really really hard.
Whatever the outcome, you can vote on it here.
http://www.adultswim.com/promos/200403_shark_v_croc/index.html

nice rocketpack shark (tee-hee)

Posted by: chris at March 25, 2004 07:29 AM

I just love the setup on Adult Swim for this.

(Not exactly quoted)
"For years, a question has been floating around the offices of Adult Swim. Who would win in a fight between a flying shark, and a flying crocodile?"

Priceless. The things these people can get away with.

"They will battle in a battle where there can be no winner...WHO WILL WIN?! Questions will be asked, AND DESTROYED, BY ANSWERS!"

Posted by: David B at March 25, 2004 08:29 AM

Farking heck! I think I'm going to petition the CRTC to let them bring Cartoon Network up here. It SO kicks the crap out of our crappy "Teletoon"...

Posted by: Ryan Waddell at March 25, 2004 08:32 AM

Really, how long do you think shark can last out of water? He'll give it a go for a short time but eventually he'll run out of air. A croc is bigger and meaner then an alligator and can be freaking huge! As long as the croc doesn't expose his soft belly to the shark in the few minutes the shark will have before running out of air the croc will win without any problems!

Posted by: Whistler at March 25, 2004 09:12 AM

I have to go with Croc too.. Sure when I first looked at the situation I thought it might be Shark.. He is faster, cooler, bites hard, and drinks more alcohol. However, in the end the croc is the favorite to win. There is just now doubt about it. His immobility will be the key as he can just sit there and wait for the shark to get too close to get his head bitten off..

Jason

Posted by: Jason Thomas at March 25, 2004 09:48 AM

Come on! How can you even consider going against a lightning fast shark with (as Wil so accurately puts it) Trogdor arms?

Posted by: Wrex at March 25, 2004 09:59 AM

SHARK ALL THE WAY!

The Shark is a flying killing machine!

In fact after the Shark eats the Croc he just might eat the rest of us.

Croc Can't stop it, we can't stop it!

So if mankind is to survive this battle we better hope Aquaman and Aqualad are ready to save us otherwise we are so dead.

THE SHARK WILL RULE THE DAY!

Posted by: Malcolm Harris at March 25, 2004 10:00 AM

ASTRONAUTS FOR SHARK!
ASTRONAUTS FOR SHARK!
ASTRONAUTS FOR SHARK!

Posted by: Astronaut at March 25, 2004 10:30 AM

My brother in law is actually the shark scientist that was on the show, Dan Huber. So, naturally, I HAD to root for the shark, and it won, by golly!

Posted by: Dyanna at March 25, 2004 10:35 AM

I am laughing so very hard right now, mostly at myself. To think that I actually understood not only the whole croc v. shark thing but also the astronauts v. cavemen thing makes me feel that prehaps I am watching just a little bit too much tv...but then again Angel and Adult Swim are great tv :D

Amusing entry Wil. Definitely seems to have gotten everyone riled up.

Posted by: Sol at March 25, 2004 10:40 AM

O.M.G.

Posted by: seasnail at March 25, 2004 10:58 AM

ha ha ha. I've been watching this shark v croc thing since it began and i would definitely go with the shark (for many reasons i think everyone has heard) except for one point... would the shark have a special ability that would keep him alive outside of water (since these creatures are both equipped with wings, im assuming this is a "fight as you fly" competition)??

Posted by: Ana at March 25, 2004 11:09 AM

I am totally lost on this one.

Posted by: FNR_Thomas at March 25, 2004 11:10 AM

That shark is so going down. I'm-a rip his face off. Teeth, ha! Feel the wrath of the snout. It's all about the death roll, baby. Peacs, out.

Posted by: croc at March 25, 2004 11:18 AM

The show on the Discovery Channel is worthy of mockery. I'm sure anything that the Cartoon Network does will be better. I'm not hacking on any of the particular scientists or the machine builders, they seem to do a good job. But Elephant vs. Rhino? Elephants kill Rhinos in the wild. There is your 1 hour program in six words. Building machines to "test the animal abilities" and making some poor zoologist say "but the rhino is faster, its going to kick your elephant's ass" over and over is really pointless. But if they gave them rocketpacks? Now that would be cool.

Posted by: phriedom at March 25, 2004 11:24 AM

Shark all the way baby!!!


/Adult Swim Rules

Posted by: Scotty at March 25, 2004 11:35 AM

Here's why Shark is going to take the Croc:

Shark has a friggin' JETPACK. While the Croc is flapping around going "I shall take you down with my Death Roll of Toothiness!" the Shark is going to zoom in with his Jetpack from above and knock that wingy Croc right out of the air.

The Croc will win the Fashion segment though.

Posted by: Icy at March 25, 2004 11:35 AM

New fight:

SPEEDY VERSUS AQUALAD!!!

:)

Posted by: Brandi at March 25, 2004 11:49 AM

I've missed the entire battle so far! But my gut tells me that shark is totally gonna kick the croc's ass.

BTW, The Best Week Ever Blog has added WWdN to its hotlinks. Is this their way of apologizing for only using 2 seconds of your material?

Posted by: Robert W. Leu at March 25, 2004 11:52 AM

This girl just defeated her friend... with science.

Science!

Posted by: Matt Brown at March 25, 2004 11:55 AM

Right off the bat, the whole, sharks can't breath out of wather thing has been resolved. the shark solved that with secret technology that no one needs to know about.

It's really very simple to me. The Shark has a jetpack right? Well who in ther right mind would give a shark a jetpack? You would be unleashing unholy shark torment on the whole of humanity.

The only explination is that the shark made the jetpack himself. As such, he must be a super genius, and we all know that brains always defeat brawn.

Also, if those wings on the croc's back are biological than either the croc was exposed to radioactive waste, or someone messed with his DNA. In eaither case this would have messed with his brain and his mental capacity. In layman's terms the Croc is now a brain-dead moron.

Ergo, the Super-Genius Shark with his awesome jetpack of science (And which probably houses hidden death lasers) can be the only winner against such a stupid crocodile.

SHARK WINS!!!!

Posted by: roninoutlaw at March 25, 2004 12:19 PM

Shark so wins over croc. Remember, crocs do not typically kill their prey by their attack alone, they clamp on and drag it into the water where they drown it. Since our shark will be quite hard to drown, being a fish and all, this method of attack will be totally useless.

Posted by: vladykins at March 25, 2004 01:00 PM

Personally, I can't wait until the "Colossal Squid vs Sperm Whale" episode, as I'm a fan of both 20000 Leagues under the Sea and Moby Dick, I want to see which one comes out on top. But I say the Shark will win, cause common, it's a Great White Shark afterall.

Posted by: ColumbusWill at March 25, 2004 01:09 PM

Personally, I can't wait until the "Colossal Squid vs Sperm Whale" episode, as I'm a fan of both 20000 Leagues under the Sea and Moby Dick, I want to see which one comes out on top. But I say the Shark will win, cause common, it's a Great White Shark afterall.

Posted by: ColumbusWill at March 25, 2004 01:09 PM

The Flying Croc has Angel wings. The Flying shark has a jetpack. A vote against Croc is a vote against Jesus.

Not Really. Jesus didn't have Angel wings. But he did have a jet pack. So vote Shark.

Matt T

Posted by: Matt T at March 25, 2004 01:46 PM

Julia

I really do think she's gone forever.Even worse,if the WB doesn't get it's ass in gear the rest of team Angel are to. :(

First Cordy then Fred. Can't say i'm digging the sausage fest.

Posted by: Kane at March 25, 2004 01:58 PM

Ok, the ways I sees it:

Shark: Jetpack= good. BUT, does he have the intelligence to USE IT? Also, when a shark strikes, its eyes roll up into its head making it effectively blind during attack which= BAD! And of course, there is the whole breathing thing. But, IF the shark can drag the croc into the water, he will not only have superior maneuverability, but also all the oxygen he can handle. Then we have to figure if his jet pack will work under water, or possibly short out, or even explode.

CROC: Lets run with the wings. The wings are natural extensions, so they will take much energy to use. Reptiles have great endurance but can only be extremely active in bursts. Just flapping those wings might expend the Croc's attack strength. Also, Sharks and Crocs have mouths designed to grab and hold something, then chew it up into mulch. Those wings have two BULLSEYES strapped onto them as far as the Shark is concerned. So I think the wings will be a liability for this reason as well.

Now, as we see here, this fight is gonna end up either in the water or on the ground. In the water, the Croc has better maneuverability than on the ground. AND he can hold his breath. On the ground, he will wear out fast, just like the shark. If he's smart, he'll let the Shark chomp on his wings and drag them both on the ground or water. This will give the shark a false sense of security. When the shark lets his guard down, the Croc can move towards the Shark's tail and slowly work his way up, simultaneously destroying the Shark's appendages, and taking chunks out of the Shark. BUT, IS THE CROC SMART ENOUGH to consider this approach? I doubt it. One final note, IF the shark chomps down on the Croc's mouth first, the Croc will not have the strength to open his mouth. His strength is in his chomp. A man can keep the crocs mouth closed with one hand (if he is stupid enough to try it). A shark has no such limitation.

Overall, Im going with the Shark because of what that old lady said, "He's very good looking, so he will win."

Spunkyknight

Posted by: spunkyknight at March 25, 2004 02:08 PM

Croc rules...Shark drools

Yeah sure shark has arms...big deal. Croc has arms AND legs AND a kickass tail. Whatchew gonna do Shark when those arms and legs and that tail run wild on you brotha?

Plus Shark ain't shit without that jetpack. I see Croc humoring Shark for a while before he rips off that jetpack and makes Shark his bitch. With the jetpack gone all Croc has to do is pick him up and break him like Bane broke Batman over his knee.

Batman came back...Shark won't.

Sean

Posted by: Sean Wardwell at March 25, 2004 02:23 PM

Shark > Croc > Caveman > Astronaut

Posted by: Jane at March 25, 2004 02:47 PM

Heh, I don't really watch Adult Swim (as I don't get Cartoon Network), but I'm going to go with my general dislike of crocs and my love of sharks and say that Shark will win.

Also, cavemen all the way, no question about it.

Posted by: Jessica D. at March 25, 2004 03:48 PM

Damn...I WANT MY FREAKIN' CABLE TV BACK!!!!

(Note to self: resume nagging the spouse about moving...)

Posted by: Roberta at March 26, 2004 08:39 AM

Well after giving this much... much... hours and hours of pondering. I have decided that the Croc will win. Because of this simple fact. Sharks can't breath out of water. Now if for some reason this shark is able to breath air then the Shark takes it easy. But sadly I see nothing on him that would suggest he can breath air. :(

Posted by: Dark Yoda at March 26, 2004 11:32 AM

Can someone get Don King on the phone? He can make this happen! Maybe in she ShedAquirium in Chicago....

I got the crock in the 9th round.

Posted by: Mike at March 26, 2004 01:33 PM

Sharks are dumb Ashley, DUMB!! Croc is going to kick some serious shark arse!!

Posted by: The D at March 26, 2004 01:34 PM

pixies rule, theyre playing my hometown but i had a meeting the day tickets went onsale and i missed out, but a couple of years ago i was a bouncer at the venue theyre playing so mabey i can get in anyway (in my best dick ritchie)

Posted by: BEEFY at March 26, 2004 01:55 PM

thats supposed to read (in my best dick ritchie((hope, hope)) )

Posted by: BEEFY at March 26, 2004 01:58 PM

Gidday folks,

being from dowununder, where we REALLY have crocs and sharks (often in the same place at the same time), and as with my fellow Commonwealth buddies, having no idea of to what this pertains, I can however *assure* you (because I saw it on a TV advert for a popular brand of beer) that "the crocs got all the sharks".

So ... no contest I reckon ...
;-)

Posted by: Cassy at March 27, 2004 08:21 PM

Cool article!!!

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Cool article!!!

Posted by: agencja nieruchomosci, agęcja nieruchomości at April 15, 2004 11:32 AM

Wil....more Guinness...less reality....

Posted by: pilch at April 17, 2004 08:44 AM

Sorry people the shark will win, the Great White can travel to such speeds of 20 mph when leaping at it's pray from underneith the water, not to mention it has great reflexes for it's size, it's bone crushing jaw and sharp razor teeth will be enough to take out any croc, no contest! Also if the Croc was flipped over it cannot move, therefore it's soft belly is easy access to the shark.

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