Way ahead of you, Wil. I starting using it as my default at version 0.8, and it does, in fact, rock.

interesting!

I just downloaded it 2 weeks ago and had NOTHING but problems.

So much so that I ended up re-formatting and installing the full version of Mozilla.
Although I LOVE tabbed browsing, I have issue with some of it (not always tabbing, some tabs, some windows, etc))

I'm debating even using the mail program as my default mail program.

Thoughts?

I've heard more and more people on messageboards talking about the advantages of Firefox. Why is it so good over other browsers, and will pages still look the same?

I have found pages don't ALL look the same as in, say, IE.

I've been to several pages where the formatting is all screwy on Firefox.

I imagine thats the web page designers fault, and not the browsers

Right on. I'll have to check that out when I get home from work later. I've been using Mozilla as of late, since I can't quite get Konquerer to view certain pages I frequent...

Thanks for the suggestion, Wil!

I've heard good things and bad about firefox, one of the things that concerns me the most is that on occasion it will tie up recources. Other than that, I don't really know one way or the other which is better.

woah.. I thought you were going to be hardcore classic mozilla user forever? :o

I already have firefox ;)

Firefox++ but who is the ASSHAT who decided CTRL-U would be "View Source"? CTRL-U is "clear the text box", in every other browser in Linux. By messing with that, they make it so you have to go END DEL DEL DELDELDELDELDEL (etc) if you want to avoid overwriting the url you have in the clipboard and were about to paste in the address box with a quick CTRL-U CTRL-V as one is used to.

Firefox is the shiznit.
I've had to occasionally switch back to IE for a couple of things, but nothing major. And I went from having spyware from simply surfing the web to having -nothing-...

I couldn't agree more - and thanks for that link, I got a bunch of great plugins from there! :)

no offense dude, I love your site and all, but if you're touting firefox, You should also learn about web-standards... You should download the web-developers toolbar, and then start learning more modern HTML.

You HTML is a few years out of date.

Wil, waaaayy ahead of you on the Firefox Browser...I gotta gree with you, it's totally sweet...I use many different extensions that have made my space constrictions on my old standby machine easy to handle...I specifically like Chatzilla for IRC!!!

Oh yeah, so lovin' it. Just downloaded the 1.0 version. The bugmenot I don't think works with this one. I still have to use MSIE for some things, but I try not to.

Oddly enough, I originally started using it because one of the sites I work with didn't have a compatible menu system when updated through MSIE...

I've been using Phoenix^H^H / Firebird^H^H / Firefox for about a year now, and I love it, but I'd never heard of BUGMENOT. AWESOME plugin!

In other comments, Evan needs to download Tabbrowser Extensions _or_ Tabbrowser Preferences (not both) to be able to force everything to new tabs. Get used to right-click->"open in new tab".

Cheers!

I LOVE Firefox. I've been using it for over a year now, and I can't stand using IE. Unfortuantely, there are still many things built in the corporate world that rely on stupid ActiveX crap to where I have to use IE... luckily, I'm slowly working that out of stuff :)

To remove spyware on my Windows PC (ok ok - Windows sucks Linux rocks - but i like my Windows) I use Spybot Search & Destroy. You can download it for free at "http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html".

As default browser I use Firefox 0.9.3 - the only thing I don't like about Firefox is that I have to remove the old program a_n_d profie (as it is recomendet) to get the newer Firefox to work correct.

Ever since I was (seemingly) the last person to realize that IE is the devil, and was happily letting in any and all spyware onto my computer, I've been using firefox and thunderbird. The tabs make me happy.

Squee!

I got endless popups with explorer, so i set firefox as the default browser about a month ago and haven't gotten a popup since. Unfortuanetly, explorer is built in to windows SO I CAN NEVER GET RID OF IT!!!!

Nobody has mentioned Safari yet, so I thought I'd oblige :-). For me it still has an edge on the Mac over Firefox (though OmniWeb may well beat both when v5.1 appears).

The best way of getting rid of these damm popup's on Win XP / IE is to install ServicePack 2. With ServicePack 2 there is a build in popup blocker in IE - and if you switch it to the highest level you have to confirm every popup with 'ctrl'.

Ben,
You can uninstall IE by uninstalling Windows ;)
Not for everyone, just an idea..

I have firefox and regular mozilla, mostly becaise of popup blocks and tabs, and the fact that IE crashes everytime a popup does popup.umm..yeh

I was extremely happy when the school computer finally put Mozilla on all the lab machines.

Hey Wil, I just had an insight, and I know this is not related to the post in any way, but I thought I'd share my thoughts with you and all WWdN readers, too.

Okay. Here goes.

I recently watched my favorite movie Moulin Rouge!, and in the movie, a couple of characters are torn between befriending the "children of the revolution" and selling their nightclub as well as their dreams to the evil Duke. In the end, they choose truth, beauty, freedom and love- everything the children of the revolution stand for, and the Duke is left walking away from the Moulin Rouge in the snow.

Well, this kind of reminds me of an inner struggle I had, and others here might have had the same internal struggle. You see, I was a theater freak back in high school, which already earned me some popularity because it was cool if you sang, danced and acted. We had a chance to be in with the popular crowd- we dressed nicely, we were optimistic and upbeat, and we were polite to everyone. But I also related to the less popular students- the ones that were smart, the ones that saw that there was life past clothes, trends and the opposite sex, and the ones that were open-minded and accepting.

I took a year off after I graduated from high school and did a little soul-searching. I can honestly say I'm more of a geek than a popular person. I speak three languages, I love to read, I love to write, I know a lot about astrology, I'm into seventies trends and fads, I'm into '80s pop culture, I love the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and last time I took an I.Q. test, I scored 118.

You wouldn't guess these things about me, because I don't look like your typical bookworm. But I'm definitely a geek at heart, and seeing as this Web site celebrates geekiness, I thought I'd share this with all of you.

Funny how there are more geeks than populars- there were more children of the revolution than there were dukes in Moulin Rouge! I thought that was a good analogy.

In closing, I say we are this century's children of the revolution, and we shouldn't sell our dreams to evil dukes.

Thank you.

-Vanessa Nichole

Without this becoming too techie... I've kept a watch on Firefox (and predecessors) for a couple of years.

Only with version 0.9.3 () do I think it has suitably replaced IE. Pages that don't work on Firefox are generally not compliant with relevant standards, and have been designed to 'look good' on IE, without testing across other browsers.

The nature of the open source development means it will be less of a dinosaur in developing features that Joe Public will want. On balance, I'm prepared to stick with Firefox, and keep IE handy for those sites that misbehave.

Everything Counts?? Hmmm... time to pull up Depeche Mode 101 on iTunes...

To those folks who have had problems with firefox (e.g. version 0.8), remember that it is still in beta release.

It's now up to 1.0 (preview release) and they're finally hammering all the bugs (though I find more in MSIE).

I find firefox to be rock stable. It's great. Bugmenot is a wonderful extension, I also have the gmail plugin, web developer, HTML validator (lovely), single window and ieview (which hops a page to MSIE - I only ever use this to check that MSIE isn't doing something silly with a stylesheet).

I did have some problems with an earlier build of Thunderbird, but this too looks stable now. Both thunderbird and firefox have good support for RSS feeds - personally I think that the thunderbird model for RSS feeds is better (the RSS updates and it looks like new email).

http://www.murky.org/archives/2004/09/thunderbird_and.html

Firefox frellin rocks! I started using it in late spring.

If you haven't seen them already: there's a great extension for tabbed browsing (Tabbrowser Extensions), one to display the weather in your status bar (WeatherFox), & a Gmail Notifier for letting you know you received new mail in your gmail account. :)

I'm never going back! Never!

I've spent some time in Firefox but prefer Mozilla.

I like Mozilla's password manager, which Firefox doesn't have. The differences between Mozilla and Firefox really aren't too significant, just enough that I prefer to use Mozilla on a day-to-day basis.

I have a copy of Portable Firefox on my USB flash drive for when I have to visit a foreign/new computer.

A few extensions (XPI's) that I love:

- AdBlock at http://adblock.mozdev.org/
- DeepestSender, the LiveJournal plugin at http://deepestsender.mozdev.org/
- DictionarySearch at http://dictionarysearch.mozdev.org/
- FlashBlock at http://flashblock.mozdev.org/

Brad wrote:
I like Mozilla's password manager, which Firefox doesn't have.

Firefox does, Brad.

"Why is it so good over other browsers, and will pages still look the same?"

The one biggest advantage of Firefox is that it's VERY standard's compliant. Pages in Firefox will almost always look how they're supposed to look.

That's the biggest problem with IE (aside from the spyware) is it's incomplete and downright incorrect rendering of certain parts of HTML, XHTML, and CSS (1 and 2).

Plus, as probably the only modern browser that's truly cross platform, that alone is pretty nifty.

I don't use it personally, but I like the automagical spellchecking that Safari does (which is actually part of Cocoa, but I digress)

Wil,

Since this website has pretty much been responsible for most of your real work (lately) ie. you get most of your book material from the posts and responses from WWDN, it surprises me when you kind of treat the website like it's on the back burner when REAL WORK comes along. Don't forget your bread and butter. ;-)

Ignatz

Been using Firefox here for a few months now and man, it really is a great browser.

Nobody has mentioned it so I will. I love my Opera browser. I've been using it for years. I don't know what I'd do without it. I rarely run across pages that don't support it, but otherwise I'm in love.

I second the Opera vote, Wil. I've found it works even better on my Powerbook than Firefox (including making sense of some pages that had Firefox perplexed!). The latest version of Opera is really leaps and bounds beyond anything they'd released before (for Mac).

Hello! Since we are on the subject of web browsers and the like. i just installed red hat linux on my other pc. (red hat 8 i think) I currently have a windows xp server at home. its okay but costly. anyhoo. I wanted to play with linux a little before i nuke all of my pc's and go full on open source.

i guess my question is... who ere is on linux and are there any good web sites that highlight linux web browsing, programming, ect? i know thi isnt exactly a board, (sorry uncle willy) but im not sure where to turn.

thanks in advance!

joe

I started using Firefox about 3 months ago thanks to my Uber tech-savy nephew. Never looked back at IE again!

BTW - Like you site Will!

The current Firefox causes problems.

An older version - 0.92 - was much more stable and was able to avoid registration screens and go straight to the page.

This one can't even "remember" saved passwords.

Have a good weekend Wil!

I'm so glad you like Firefox, since I've tried it I haven't touched Explorer at all. It's just so amazing, like a breath of fresh air. And the themes... Coolness.
I've been bugging friends far and wide, approaching strangers on the street. . . Just a truly amazing browser.

Firefox is indeed a wonder to behold. Bugmenot is one of my favorite things in the whole world, not just in cyberspace. Other good extensions are "View page in IE" for those screwy pages that don't render properly in FF, Gmail notifier is supremely great too, but my overall favorite feature has to be Live Bookmarks - great for keeping track of blogs or other oft-updated sites.

Firefox rocks so hard! :)

I only switch into IE *shiver* for a few things that have compatibility issues...

Otherwise... Yay!

I've had zero trouble with popups with Safari. Perhaps my XP-ridden friends can use Firefox.

"Firefox++ but who is the ASSHAT who decided CTRL-U would be "View Source"? CTRL-U is "clear the text box", in every other browser in Linux. By messing with that, they make it so you have to go END DEL DEL DELDELDELDELDEL (etc) if you want to avoid overwriting the url you have in the clipboard and were about to paste in the address box with a quick CTRL-U CTRL-V as one is used to."

Just hit CTRL-L.. It should select the URL so you can paste over it.

Few good Firefox extentions that I love:

Adblock - You can setup filters (wildcards included) to block pretty much anything on a webpage. Great for blocking ads (setup filters for */ads/* */banners/* etc.)

IEview - Incase a page is looking weird in Firefox, you can right click and Choose "View in IE."

WebMailCompose - When you click an e-mail link (mailto:) this will open your webmail page (gmail, yahoo, etc) ready to compose an email.

Linkification - this will put anchor tags around plain text urls. so if a webpage says "http://www.blah.com" but wasn't setup so you can just click that and go to that site, linkification will allow you to click on it.

Firesomething - just for fun. each time you open firefox, it is assigned a random name (such as Mozilla Supergoat, or Mozilla Spacewhale).

Also, if you use Firefox type about:config in the address bar and and type "xul" in the filter box. change browser.xul.error_pages.enabled to true to get IE style error pages instead of a dialog box to popup.

as for more alternatives to main stream products, check gaim for your aim/icq/etc needs, and filezilla for ftp!

I'm gonna back you up on Firefox.

I've been a long time fan of Safari (has it existed long enough for me to say that?) but I've become frustrated with it's rendering oddities and pokey speed. For my OS X systems I've been using Safari and Firefox's cousin, Camino about 30/70. On other platforms I use Firefox exclusively (Camino is OS X only).

My much-loved PC is running on WinME and its umpteen critical updates and patches. I am *still* on WinME because the prohibitive price of WinXP in my country keeps me from upgrading to a legitimate copy -- especially since I had white hairs enough from upgrading to ME from 98SE!!

Just so everyone knows what platform I'm using. ^__^

I experimented using Firefox since version 0.8-something because frankly, despite having a 700mhz Celeron processor and 128MB of RAM *and* a cable internet connection, IE would load pages like refrigerated molasses. Imagine my shock when, the first time I used Firefox, I had pages -- multiple pages, even! -- coming down the pike in half the time! So it's been Firefox ever since; flirted with Opera, but came back to Firefox and Thunderbird, the e-mail client. Never looked back at anything Microsoft in that department since. (I also use OpenOffice, and love it.)

Right now, Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, and my operating config appear to adore each other, and it's a beautiful thing. Since Microsoft is discontinuing free critical upgrade support for everything pre-Longhorn by 2006 (or so the industry buzz goes), my next machine will either have Linux pre-installed, or be a Mac.

I've been using Firefox for quite a while now, and I've yet to be disappointed.

I seem to be having a little trouble with Thunderbird, though...but I'm working on it ;)

Don't worry about reports that some pages haven't rendered correctly in the past. I've been using firefox since the very early days and I can't remember the last time I had a problem like that.
Download the latest and just give it a go.

Anyone who has experienced problems with sites using Firefox in the past or is worried about their favourite sites not working with Firefox should post the addresses here so us "brave" Firefox users can confirm if they work or not.

I'm more of a Mozilla fan myself, but I do have Firefox running on my Windows machine. God, I hate IE!

Everything *does* count in large amounts.

Mmmmm, mouse gestures...

MS would not discontinue support for all OS's previous to longhorn in 2006. It makes no sense considering the majority of their customers wait awhile to upgrade - plus, that is assuming longhorn comes out on time which is just a laughable concept. Not providing critical support (like security patches) would cause so many problems...that's why Service Pack 2 is available even to those with pirated copies. =D (I have windows on my desktop, but linux on my laptop.) ME has got to be the worst version of windows a person could run (other than the first edition of 98)...you could probably find 2000 at a fairly reasonable price.

I adore Firefox. I have been using it for awhile now...It's so great to have multiple homepages, so I can wake up, run firefox, and check out news and blogs without having to do much of anything. It's so standards compliant, it rocks hardcore - I don't read websites that don't display correctly on firefox since I figure if they're that badly mangled, they have nothing important to say. (And whoever it was that said Wil should update his HTML is looney. If this was one of those flashy-showy type of blogs, it would take away so much from the raw honesty and emotion that are behind some of his best entries.)

As a Security Manager I have nothing but good things to say about Firefox. I usually deal with a minimum of 2 IDTenT's a week (including my lovely wife) who've gotten scumware from using Internet Exploder.

I even requested a firefox polo shirt on my birthday wishlist as I approach the end of my 31's.

Wil: Just wanted to say hey!

Cody

I've been using Firefox as my default browser for years now - and am even using the current release.

However, I look at WWDN in IE because the comments window doesn't render correctly in Firefox. Anyone else having this problem? Could be an extension I have installed.

Can someone tell me what the difference is between Firefox and Mozilla?
I mean, why have Firefox if you can have Mozilla?

Well, FireFox++, but bugmenot--. I agree with their aims in general, but the way they have implemented it is not so great. While there are some sites out there deliberately requiring registration in order to harvest data, there are some which use registrations for other (technical!) reasons. That's where bugmenot fails badly.

Ignatz: good point about the real work thing, however, my guess is that Wil meant that he enjoys messing around with his weblog so much that it doesn't feel like real work?

another thought: real work. Hm. Wil, what is real work? Writing? Developing a website. Doing v/o's for other companies... marketing yourself as a product in any way... ? Food for thought.

Who am I to question? A customer. I buy into the product of Wil Wheaton.

I'll shut up now. not sure what my point is. ;-)

I've been using Firefox for about 2 months now and I think it is awesome! I've stopped getting those annoying pop-ups and adware trojan horses, plus it performs much faster under SSL-encrypted pages on the e-commerce sites!

"Real Work" is work where someone else (like an editor) is relying on me to turn something in (like a column or manuscript.)

"Real Work" is how I provide for my family.

Nice of you to join the rest of us converts. After using IE for the majority of time I've been surfing the net from home for the past few years, Firefox is a breath of fresh air. It's definitely and amazing piece of software. Get used to and enjoy the mouse gestures and you'll find yourself in other programs wishing they had them.

I've always used whatever came with the computers that I've purchased. Cookie cutter browsers like IE,...etc.

I'm worried that I'm missing out on some really great aspects by sticking with the norm, but I'm also worried that my inexperience and or inexpert knowledge of the way things work will leave me bogged down in a realm I only vaguely understand.
I've checked it out and will continue to mull this one over.
I think I'm ready for a change.

I also *heart* firefox.

I've been using Firefox since it was Firebird and I love it. The newest version is great. It is the first one that passes my ESPN test. On older versions ESPN didn't view very well and a lot of the special features --- like any media content --- out right did not work. In version 1.0; I'm listening to ESPN Radio with no problems. I am glad to see that it is finally catching on.

Ya, I am now using FireFox 1.0 as we speak. It is indeed fast and efficent. My only complaint-it does a terrible job rendering borders. I guess it's the one thing IE seems to have a leg up on. However, the spead and ease of FF more then compensates.

I've been using Firefox since about 0.5. I love it, but 1.0 has been a bit crashy on my Fedora C2 box.

Just watched SBM for the 12 time and, in tune with the end of the movie, wanted to know how life really did work out.

Thank God you survived child stardom and can now enjoy the true reality of life, love and children.
You are successful beyond your dreams of childhood.
I don't know anything about computers. I do believe that being able to use something you don't understand, and do it well is funnier than shit!
My adventures in life are not limited by what I understand of technology, because there is always someone who knows enough to prod me into pushing the proper button at more or less the right time or sequence. I am, therefore, a huge suceess at being a failure. It is not pretty but I get by.
I am sure those who understand the need for "Firefox" or whatever, do not yet appreciate the humour of the failures of whatever it is replacing. How many really good laughs have been had due to really bad programing? Millions have enjoyed the subtle giggles as screens freeze or go blank (like their operators?).

Things don,t have to work perfectly all the time, they just need to work long enough for you to develop trust, then fail. Anticipation is knowing that it is going to happen, the humour is always in the instant delight at what has been destroyed.

I live in Ottawa, Canada (why I spell weird) and having a program screw up is much like going outside, at night, in the winter. The air is cold, dark and it bites.

I do hope that the new system has enough failures (and it will) to keep the humour in the computer.

Cheers, Larry Nicholls

Firefox is indeed a great browser, although it does still have a few annoying bugs to be worked out and its CSS support, while overall better than that of IE, is still lacking in some ways (inline-block support, for example).

I am running Windows at the moment, although I have tried Firefox under Linux. The Options interface might be missing some options, but you should--through the Options interface, configuration files, or modifier keys--be able to have tabs work just the way you like. On my Windows system, I can hold to open a tab in the background or and together to open it in the foreground. You can right-click on any tab for a menu that lets you close other tabs or even reload them. Firefox offers a lot of flexibility with its tabs by default; just dig around and you should be able to find what you need and if you can't there may be an extension that offers the functionality you would like.

This is an update to my previous post since Wil's comment system seems to be either unable or not configured to print the historically-favored angle-bracketed key notation. The sentence with the missing words should have been something like the following:

On my Windows system, I can hold [Ctrl] to open a tab in the background or [Shift] and [Ctrl] together to open it in the foreground.

Good to hear there is another geek using Firefox, it truly is the best browser available. You should visit (and tell others to visit) http://browsehappy.com/ it has some interesting points against using IE and other browsers.

i am still stuck with glacially slow dial-up service...and firefox has made a big difference for me since i switched over 7 months ago...it gets me around faster...and that makes me very happy.

I have been using Firefox on my Macs for some time now - excellent browser!

As a long time user and advocate of firefox/firebird etc. I been overall very pleased. This latest version 1PR however is spontaneously quitting on my mac os x. Anyone else have this problem? Seems to be when I have heavy flash on the page (or maybe even java).

Wil! Thank you for reccomending Firefox. Within one minute of installing and running it, it happily and kindly downloaded and installed plugins that I've NEVER been able to get running in Mandrake on my own. Love it, I do.

I picked it about about a month ago or so... my boss IMed me about it. No popups, moves faster, it's clean and easy, and I'm loving it. A few things don't work with it, so I run my launch.com on IE, but everything else is nice.

Glad to hear you are real busy. I hope you have so much work that you hardly have time to blog. We'll be here.

gotta love a browser that has an extension to let you play interactive fiction. that's what sold me on it a while ago. if anyone misses zork and planetfall and all those goodies, look for the "gnusto" extension and then go to www.ifarchive.org for all the interactive fiction you could ever desire =)

Yessss.... Yessss! Firefox is the precioussss!

I don't know if anybody has mentioned this yet, but IE for XP Service Pack 2 has pop-up blocking built-in and enabled by default. It just pops down a little toolbar-type thing when it blocks a pop-up, so that you can choose to view it or not.

I encourage anyone with a legal version of XP to upgrade to service pack 2... I was a bit wary, but surprisingly had few problems. If you just turn off the firewall, it's essentially the same, but much more resistant to infection.

Yeah, Firefox is sweet, love the mouse gestures a la Black and White. The mozilla Email program, Thunderbird is also incredible, great for anyone who has more than one account to keep track of.

Bruce, where you recommend people download and install sp2, I do not. I am glad you have had good experiences with it, but the vast majority of people I know have had many problems with it. Some were unresolvable, and required a wipe clean and reinstall. It all depends what you are running of course, and just what is compatible. If you are willing to risk being down for an extended period, go ahead and install it. If you are running a critical application you can't do without, well, proceed with caution. If security is your major concern, I recommend using non microsoft methods of securing your computer. Do things like use firefox, thunderbird, get your OWN firewall, and of course install virus protection etc. And a nice router isn't such a bad thing to have either, even if you only have a single computer connected to your always on internet connection.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled Wheaton.

Firefox is so cool I could pee my pants. I've been at it for a month or so now. Most of the really big sites, especially ones frequented by geeks, have fixed any compatibility errors they have with it (gmail loads properly now, when apparantly it didn't before, and Livejournal actually loads BETTER-- I hear tale IE users are having issues with the comment window being larger than the screen).

Extentions you should look at:

Firesomething: frivolous but funny. Every time you open a new browser window, it gives it a new randomly generated name-- like right now I'm on WWdN with Mozilla Webdog, and yesterday I was reading my mail with Firesheep. It mocks the fact that Firefox had to change it's name several times because of copyright issues.

Bugmenot: owns. Doesn't work on really high-end websites, like New York Times, but there's nothing quite like surfing SparkNotes without registering at all.

Nuke Anything: I like this one even better than bugmenot: right-click on ANY element of a page, be it an annoying banner ad, or garish .gif, and you get an option to remove it. Poof! gone. Want it back? just hit refresh.

MiniT: allows you to re-arrange tabs by dragging and dropping.

AdBlock: filters out a lot of ads and gives you the option to remove flash-animated ads, thus filling in Nuke Anything's one major failing.

Mouse Gestures: fairly frivolous if you know the keyboard shortcuts, but amusing anyway.

And for those WWdN readers who haven't switched yet, you should. Come support the open-source endevour and stick it to the man who tried to palm Windows ME off on the general populace.

Plus: our cult has cookies.

Annalee: Ultimately it was the cookies that swayed me. But seriously, thank you for pointing out some of the more fun extensions...

Nothing like posting from a window called MadChinchilla Hyperoctopus...

Another Safari user here, and I love it!! I've tried all of them (for the Mac) and Safari is the only one I can't do without!

dd

I had been using Konqueror too and still have it, but a month ago started using Firefox as my #1 browser. In combination with KDE on top of Gentoo Linux, I'm a happy camper now.

At the moment (3 pm monday hoosier time) the www.spreadfirefox.com page doesn't open. as someone running ie/win98 on an antique p133 i'm in pop-up hell; the google and yahoo pop-up blockers no longer work; running adaware and spybot often isn't doing the trick. monster.com is the worst offender; it's turned into a .. monster. so i'm ready to jump.. but i fear change. like when i let a guy try to upgrade my p2 he broke it and it won't talk to the net any more.. and i suffer when i can't get online. the 80's were rough in that respect. i remember when wil was saying "dump windows linux is cool" and then weeks of "it doesn't work yet." i am a technophobe; my geekiness is in other areas, and i am currently out of tech support guys, so it scares me to contemplate making this change without help and no backup system handy. i am, or used to be, an elections lawyer, and it's almost fun right now watching election officials panic as they realize they scrapped the old systems before testing the fancy new electronic ones.
i may try the site again later, or may look for other sites to get firefox from... but it seems like a risk of wuffie to say "this is cool, run get it" and then point to a dead link. maybe i'm the only one with the problem with the link - i've been wrong before once or twice. and use too many words to do it in. but, on to another subject: real work -
this site apparently pays for itself via the tip jar, and the annual charity thing is non-trivial, but is it fair to say the site, through ads and affiliate programs and store revenue, doesn't make enough to live on, even by 3rd world standards? because if your site, one of the more popular and cool, can't generate revenue, most of the rest of us should not even bother trying.
i understand that partly "generating revenue" is not the first or second or third objective of the site. i say these things not to be critical, but as someone who probably needs to get off the damn computer and get a real job.. but not today, not right now, just real soon now.
cordially, the arbitrary aardvark

answering my own question, mozilla says firefox won't run on my antique. this won't be a problem for 99% of your viewers, but it would be nice to see open source programs that did support older machines. half the country, and most of the world, is still offline, while working machines get thrown away because they are no longer the latest thing. minor quibble, and one more reason to upgrade. living in the hood, i hesitate to get a nice box and reward a crackhead. one more reason to move.

the www.spreadfirefox.com page is back up.. they were just getting lots of hits

Thanks Wil. I have no successfully dumped Internet Exploiter as my browser. Firefox is faster and better and that cool development bar has made work easier.

and just a general note to anyone running a mozilla-based browser (including Netscape): type about:mozilla into your adress bar, and you'll get exerpts from the Book Of Mozilla.

The best ones are on netscape, but they're all pretty funny.

If Spread Firefox aint working for you, you can also get it from the official site, here: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/index.html .

IE is still playing catchup with Firefox. They've had stuff like tab browsing, and an extensible plugin structure to spur innovation. Bravo!

Hi Wil

Two things......
1. What do you think of the whole Scott Peterson thing?
2. Have you considered turning your weblong into a sitcom type show? I envision you narrating your thoughts over the things that happen in your diaries. If it gets picked up will you remember me?;)

Ooops!! I think I broke the rules! Am I in trouble? If so please know that I NEVER considered you a has been :)

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